Philadelphia Regional DOL Tracker

JustWatching said:
I usually don't get involved in these things, but today I couldn't resist.

First of all the use of "JESUS LAND" is completely inappropriate and offensive. Period. Enough said.

Second, the main reason green card takes this long nowadays is due to Section 245(i) and the backlog created by this in April 2001. Would you care to guess who signed that into law? Try Bill Clinton.

Third, regression of visa numbers, would have happened regardless. I seriously doubt that the bulk of 245(i) cases are nationals from the countries that are suffering from regression. And by the way visa number assignments have been in place for a while.

So before you make remarks that are founded on your "knowledge" I would think twice about it.

for 4 years this administration didn't do anything to enhance immigration for legal people. on the contrary now they have a plan to legalize like 10 millions persons. if the 245(i) bACKLOGGED THE SYSTEM BY 300,000 applications in 2001 until now. what about a TSUNAMI WAVE of illegals soon with ten millions dumped on ins and DOL?
this administration is the worst ever.
 
boboli said:
I should not post it in this forum since everybody is tracking LC or BRC including me. Just want to tell you, after president election, the USA kind of divided into two parts, states who voted for Kerry called "UNITED STATES OF CANADA", the states who voted for Bush called "JESUS LAND"...In my personal understanding, JESUS LAND doesn't welcome immigrants. in Clinton period, Green card was easier and smooth if you had a job. nowadays, we have been waiting for years years just for LC, then retrogression of GC. 7 years H1b limit, blah blah blah... :mad: we also worried about the layoff, bad economy because of war, finance.....

I would have appreciated if you would have used the word, "BUSH LAND" instead of "JESUS LAND". The word, "JESUS LAND" is really inappropriate here and make no sense!.

Thanks,
Ciril99
 
If immigrants are not welcome and they do not want to give us GCs why did they bother implementing PERM, they could have just created BEC and keep dumping more applications and create more backlogs, it could have been lot worse.
 
if you never watch the politics, or news, I could not say anything. it is a popular JOKE after election. the map (http://www.thepoorman.net/archives/003434.html) had been emailed all around the world...anyway, I deleted my post, not necessary for any arguments. whatever make sense or not make sense.
ciril99 said:
I would have appreciated if you would have used the word, "BUSH LAND" instead of "JESUS LAND". The word, "JESUS LAND" is really inappropriate here and make no sense!.

Ciril99
 
GC_Lover said:
If immigrants are not welcome and they do not want to give us GCs why did they bother implementing PERM, they could have just created BEC and keep dumping more applications and create more backlogs, it could have been lot worse.
Funny logic, sir. BTW, your application should have been rejected in the State of Pennsylvania because you don't know how to spell the name of state capital.
 
GC_Lover said:
If immigrants are not welcome and they do not want to give us GCs why did they bother implementing PERM, they could have just created BEC and keep dumping more applications and create more backlogs, it could have been lot worse.

To me the current situation is bad enough already. It is very hard for me to see how it could have been lot worse. I guess you still have the patience. I admire that. Many of us filed as early as back in 2001. You only waited a year and half so far. Try wait another 2 years, your perspective may change.
 
Why this situation may be good or atleast indifferent

I have been reading the resentment that is being spit out over the last two days but having thought about this national processing center I think it is a step in the right direction as long as the spirit is maintained.

Considering that most of us are from 2001 and I am from 2002 lets assume that our labor gets approved sometime in Feb-May 2006. That is a fairly realistic estimate in my opinion especially given that the project is managed by a private contractor the govt will expect results in concrete form.

Now it is very likely that our priority dates will be current by the time and we should be able to file I140 and I1485 together. Again assuming that Bush's promise of 6 months by Sept 2006 is accomplished which I think it will be (which why the retrogression) we will be out of the woods by Dec 2006.

Now even if we got our labors cleared tomorrow do any one of you have a realistic hope that we will get our GCs before Sept 2006. So while we feel stuck now getting our labor certified while psychologically gratifying does not accomplish anything in real value unless we have our 140 cleared and I485 pending for 6 months.
 
sameer2730 said:
I have been reading the resentment that is being spit out over the last two days but having thought about this national processing center I think it is a step in the right direction as long as the spirit is maintained.

Considering that most of us are from 2001 and I am from 2002 lets assume that our labor gets approved sometime in Feb-May 2006. That is a fairly realistic estimate in my opinion especially given that the project is managed by a private contractor the govt will expect results in concrete form.

Now it is very likely that our priority dates will be current by the time and we should be able to file I140 and I1485 together. Again assuming that Bush's promise of 6 months by Sept 2006 is accomplished which I think it will be (which why the retrogression) we will be out of the woods by Dec 2006.

Now even if we got our labors cleared tomorrow do any one of you have a realistic hope that we will get our GCs before Sept 2006. So while we feel stuck now getting our labor certified while psychologically gratifying does not accomplish anything in real value unless we have our 140 cleared and I485 pending for 6 months.

i assume u are talking about traditional cases not rir.right? i expect that rir cases will be processed quicker than traditional because they are smaller in volume then they are less labor intensive for BEC. am I right?
 
Actually both

When I mentioned dates like March to May 2006 even regular should be out of the queue by then as the plan is to clear all backlog by Sept 2007. So even traditional 2001 and mid 2002 should be out by then.

Sameer
 
sameer2730 said:
When I mentioned dates like March to May 2006 even regular should be out of the queue by then as the plan is to clear all backlog by Sept 2007. So even traditional 2001 and mid 2002 should be out by then.

Sameer

but i expect that all RIR cases will be cleared by may 2006. but the regular will be cleared by sep 2007. most of the backlog is in regular cases not RIR. so RIR should be cleared before traditional.
 
sameer2730 said:
That is a fairly realistic estimate in my opinion especially given that the project is managed by a private contractor the govt will expect results in concrete form.
There is a great example for government contract in the news today. SAIC took a $170,000,000 project from FBI 4 years ago and the project has failed miserably. Remember the two BECs (original called BRC, now actually called BPCs) were set up on August 20, 2004. Before that, Philly and Dallas regionals had been dormant for about 6 months. Initially, it was said they would finish the job in two years (24 months exactly). If we count fiscal year, they should finish processing all the cases before Sept 30, 2006. But now, they are talking about 24-30 months from March 28, 2005 after several name changes. I still don't believe they can get it done even in 30 month from March 28. The problem is the day they complete the whole thing, every each of them working for BECs will have to find a new job. And I don't believe the government would like to find a new contractor.
 
sameer2730 said:
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Now it is very likely that our priority dates will be current by the time and we should be able to file I140 and I1485 together. Again assuming that Bush's promise of 6 months by Sept 2006 is accomplished which I think it will be (which why the retrogression) we will be out of the woods by Dec 2006.

Now even if we got our labors cleared tomorrow do any one of you have a realistic hope that we will get our GCs before Sept 2006. So while we feel stuck now getting our labor certified while psychologically gratifying does not accomplish anything in real value unless we have our 140 cleared and I485 pending for 6 months.

Well, you forget that not all applicants come from counties like India, China etc. Being from a country with very small number of immigrants and EB2 in the next stage it is highly unlikely that my case will suffer from priority dates not being current. That is why any delay in the LC stage for me is a huge dissapointment.

Eli
 
VAhoper said:
To me the current situation is bad enough already. It is very hard for me to see how it could have been lot worse. I guess you still have the patience. I admire that. Many of us filed as early as back in 2001. You only waited a year and half so far. Try wait another 2 years, your perspective may change.

I did file once in 2001 but got laid off and changed company. :(
So I lost my previous PD and I am still waiting like everyone else. I don't know which one is more worst to lose PD and wait forever or to wait with 2001 PD.
 
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pennwaiting said:
Funny logic, sir. BTW, your application should have been rejected in the State of Pennsylvania because you don't know how to spell the name of state capital.
:p
and I was thinking we were talking about all those who are waiting for labor and not just mine.
 
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One-Year Incremental Extensions on H1Bs

srkotturu said:
One of my colleagues, had similar situation. Before leaving to India, he applied for extention and he visited India. As per him, the officer at port of entry asked only one question, stating that Do you know, your visa will be expired within 4 months? He replied that, he already applied for extention.

Hope this will help.

SRK


www.murthy.com

1. PERM Implications : One-Year Incremental Extensions on H1Bs

At The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, P.C. we are spending countless hours
analyzing PERM. We are looking into how PERM may operate and its implications
for our clients, for MurthyDotCom readers, and MurthyBulletin subscribers. For
ease of reading, we will be addressing issues under PERM through a series of
articles on various topics.

Annual H1B Extensions under Pre-PERM

PERM will not only affect the green card process itself, but will also change
how those seeking one-year incremental extensions of H1Bs beyond the normal
six-year limit should plan for filing the labor certification. Eligibility for
these extensions requires the filing of an employment-based green card case at
least 365 days prior to the H1B extension request to take advantage of the
annual incremental extensions beyond the six years. Therefore, advance planning
is needed.

At present, if a position is considered to be in a shortage occupation, a
company may choose to file a labor certification through regular processing or
through a reduction in recruitment. Reduction-in-recruitment (RIR) cases
generally take longer to file because recruitment (advertising) results must be
obtained prior to filing. Therefore, in order to complete the required
advertising before filing, work on a reduction-in-recruitment case must start
three to six months prior to the desired filing date. If a case needs to be
filed in time for the beneficiary to qualify for an H1B extension beyond the
six-year limit, an employer needs to take action three to six months before the
beginning of the employee's fifth year of H1B status. If the employer chooses to
file under the regular labor certification process, however, the regular labor
certification could, in most cases, be started very shortly before the beginning
of the fifth year of H1B status. Although it is preferable not to rush to
prepare any case, such cases could be prepared in a matter of days and certainly
in a few weeks, if needed. The reason for this ability to quickly file such
cases is that recruitment does not take place in regular labor certification
cases until after the labor certification is filed and the State Workforce
Agency (SWA) or Backlog Elimination Center (BEC) initiates the recruitment.

The priority date is also currently established on the date that the labor
certification is filed with the SWA. The final prevailing wage determination
that is made by the SWA is done after the priority date has already been
established, and there is no required prevailing wage determination by the SWA
prior to receiving the priority date for most labor applications. Therefore, an
SWA prevailing wage determination has not usually delayed a labor certification
filing. All of these factors allowing for a fast filing are eliminated under
PERM. Thus, more advance planning is required, particularly for persons
approaching the five-year point in their H1B stays.

Annual H1B Extensions under PERM

PERM does not provide the opportunity to file a case before recruitment is
complete. This means that the employer will need to initiate and complete its
recruitment in advance, in order to be able to file the PERM case before the
start of the employee's fifth year on H1B status. Further, the employer must
obtain a prevailing wage determination from the SWA before the case is filed.
This can delay the PERM filing, depending upon how long it takes for the SWA to
provide the prevailing wage determination. For these reasons, an employer
planning to start a PERM case for an H1B employee should try to do so as early
in the employee's fourth year of H1B status as possible, if not earlier.
Adequate time must exist for obtaining a prevailing wage determination and
completing recruitment efforts well before the start of the H1B fifth year to
take advantage of annual H1B incremental extensions beyond the sixth year.

Will PERM Eliminate the Need for H1B Extensions?

PERM is expected to be much faster than the current labor certification system.
There is, however, no guaranteed processing time. Moreover, any new system is
subject to technical problems and glitches. In addition, as regular MurthyDotCom
and MurthyBulletin readers know, the EB3 priority dates have retrogressed. This
means that persons from India, mainland China, and the Philippines will likely
be unable to immediately file their I-485s even if their labor certifications
are approved. These people will need to extend their H1Bs until they can file
their I-485s or complete consular processing cases for immigrant visas. If an
employee chooses consular processing instead of the I-485, but intends to stay
in the U.S. until called for the consular processing interview abroad, s/he will
then need to maintain H1B status. Further, if PERM processing and USCIS
processing are much faster, the demand for immigrant visa numbers for
employment-based cases will increase. This can cause the EB3 numbers to
retrogress even further and potentially could cause a retrogression for EB2s.
Therefore, it is necessary to plan for H1B extensions beyond the six years in
order to maintain H1B status in light of retrogression issues. One-year
incremental H1B extensions most likely will continue to be a valuable commodity
for employers and their H1B employees.

To summarize, it is likely PERM will not impact the need for H1B extensions,
especially if the priority dates have retrogressed. On the other hand, if the
priority dates are current, the advantage of being able to concurrently file the
I-140 and the I-485 with the EAD and AP will prove useful with PERM for certain
employment-based applicants.

Copyright 2005, The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, P.C. All Rights Reserved
 
DOL NPC and BPC Recruitment Advertisement

:confused: :confused: We reported that the DOL National Processing Centers in Chicago and Atlanta and the Backlog Processing Centers in Philadelphia and Dallas are actively recruiting the "Analysts" (Workforce Development Specialist) and "Certifying Officers" (Supervisory Workforce Development Specialist). The positions to be recruited at the National Processing Centers are "permanent" positions, and the positions to be recruited at the Backlog Processing Centeers are "temporary" positions not to exceed one year. The recruitment ads reflect that the analysts at the National Processing Centers will also perform the backlog reduction case loads on top of its main duties of the PERM application adjudications. Most of these position openings will be closed by the end of January 2005. The positions require some experience with the foreign labor certification applications. It is expected that a substantial number of permanent positions at the NPC may be filled by the existing staff who have been relocated from the former Regional Offices. For the details, please click here
 
I can understand but your pain is limited to this forum and our friends....
Lot of cases we know have cleared because they applied their labor from other states...we couldn't do anything except for watching them get thier work permits and in some cases GCs also....

we have to follow their rules or get out of here....so go step by step....get labor first then think of next !! As of now labor cerification looks distant reality...
 
orissa said:
:confused: :confused: We reported that the DOL National Processing Centers in Chicago and Atlanta and the Backlog Processing Centers in Philadelphia and Dallas are actively recruiting the "Analysts" (Workforce Development Specialist) and "Certifying Officers" (Supervisory Workforce Development Specialist). The positions to be recruited at the National Processing Centers are "permanent" positions, and the positions to be recruited at the Backlog Processing Centeers are "temporary" positions not to exceed one year. The recruitment ads reflect that the analysts at the National Processing Centers will also perform the backlog reduction case loads on top of its main duties of the PERM application adjudications. Most of these position openings will be closed by the end of January 2005. The positions require some experience with the foreign labor certification applications. It is expected that a substantial number of permanent positions at the NPC may be filled by the existing staff who have been relocated from the former Regional Offices. For the details, please click here
Philly BEC is hiring and Dallas is not. I can see from the last few months Philly BEC has been a few steps behind Dallas BEC. I suspect something is wrong at Philly.
 
response from lawyer or employer for BEC letter?

Both my lawyer and my employer have received the BEC letter. But my lawyer is out of country right now, and he said the employer should reply the letter, and my employer said the lawyer should do so. So, anyone knows that who is responsible for this? :confused:
 
actd said:
Both my lawyer and my employer have received the BEC letter. But my lawyer is out of country right now, and he said the employer should reply the letter, and my employer said the lawyer should do so. So, anyone knows that who is responsible for this? :confused:

Can you post your case details, PD? when moved to DOL? etc
 
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