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PERM
- Thread starter shelfd
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Is it a joke again?
Actually PERM is not new. We heard it several times as early as 1999. It was proposed, and then disappeared, w/o any cause.
We were told that regulations would be addressed in May, and that after 7/5 it would be implemented. Now we saw May and July 5 passing by, however, no information any more.
There used to be a link "new rule making" at http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign.asp
however, it is no longer there now.
So many signs indicate that - it is a joke one more time. Don't invest your feeling any more in it . Don't get yourself fooled by PERM.
Actually PERM is not new. We heard it several times as early as 1999. It was proposed, and then disappeared, w/o any cause.
We were told that regulations would be addressed in May, and that after 7/5 it would be implemented. Now we saw May and July 5 passing by, however, no information any more.
There used to be a link "new rule making" at http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign.asp
however, it is no longer there now.
So many signs indicate that - it is a joke one more time. Don't invest your feeling any more in it . Don't get yourself fooled by PERM.
Samir K Das
Registered Users (C)
Yes PERM has been discussed for a while, but is not currently a JOKE.
In fact the proposed rules, running to 74 pages are quite draconian in a way, and it will be extremely difficult for relatively small companies to meet the requirements. As per my analysis only larger companies who recruit extensively at US campuses and otherwise will be able to document and satisfy DOL.
So file for regular LC as quickly as possible, all aspirants, to firm up a priority date!
In fact the proposed rules, running to 74 pages are quite draconian in a way, and it will be extremely difficult for relatively small companies to meet the requirements. As per my analysis only larger companies who recruit extensively at US campuses and otherwise will be able to document and satisfy DOL.
So file for regular LC as quickly as possible, all aspirants, to firm up a priority date!
PERM regulations are still under considerations by DOL. They invited comments from interested persons till July 5. The link is still there for "Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" on DOL website : http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign/perm.asp.
There is no news as to what the DOL is doing after getting the comments and what the timeline is on the actions.
Although PERM process reportedly will enable the DOL to approve LC cases in 21 days (unless the case is selected for and audit), there are a lot of issues regarding the methodolgy of recruitment, job requirements, wages etc. that might make it difficult for employers to get approval on an LC. Search for "PERM labor certification" on the web and find out the glaring illogical proposals in the PERM regulations.
There is no news as to what the DOL is doing after getting the comments and what the timeline is on the actions.
Although PERM process reportedly will enable the DOL to approve LC cases in 21 days (unless the case is selected for and audit), there are a lot of issues regarding the methodolgy of recruitment, job requirements, wages etc. that might make it difficult for employers to get approval on an LC. Search for "PERM labor certification" on the web and find out the glaring illogical proposals in the PERM regulations.
It is not assumed, but will be required of companies to conduct recruitment before submitting the PERM LC application. The results of recruitment efforts will no longer be required to be submitted with the application, but the employer will be required to keep them on file in case their case is selected for review.
Since the recruitment requirements as well as wage standards are going to differ, its not clear how the DOL will treat the migration of pending LC cases to PERM process.
Since the recruitment requirements as well as wage standards are going to differ, its not clear how the DOL will treat the migration of pending LC cases to PERM process.
This from a relevant website, to address the concerns about exisiting LC applications:
you will always have the chance to re-file under PERM and maintain the priority date you establish now under the normal process (this was confirmed by DOL at the AILA annual convention.)
Finally, by filing now you are giving yourself a choice: if PERM stays the way it is proposed and it would not be convenient for your particular situation, then you can continue with the process as it is today and its established rules. On this point, the DOL was clear that a process started before PERM will be considered under the existing guidelines if the person does not voluntarily wish to re-file under PERM.
you will always have the chance to re-file under PERM and maintain the priority date you establish now under the normal process (this was confirmed by DOL at the AILA annual convention.)
Finally, by filing now you are giving yourself a choice: if PERM stays the way it is proposed and it would not be convenient for your particular situation, then you can continue with the process as it is today and its established rules. On this point, the DOL was clear that a process started before PERM will be considered under the existing guidelines if the person does not voluntarily wish to re-file under PERM.
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This from a relevant website, to address the concerns about exisiting LC applications:
you will always have the chance to re-file under PERM and maintain the priority date you establish now under the normal process (this was confirmed by DOL at the AILA annual convention.)
Finally, by filing now you are giving yourself a choice: if PERM stays the way it is proposed and it would not be convenient for your particular situation, then you can continue with the process as it is today and its established rules. On this point, the DOL was clear that a process started before PERM will be considered under the existing guidelines if the person does not voluntarily wish to re-file under PERM.
you will always have the chance to re-file under PERM and maintain the priority date you establish now under the normal process (this was confirmed by DOL at the AILA annual convention.)
Finally, by filing now you are giving yourself a choice: if PERM stays the way it is proposed and it would not be convenient for your particular situation, then you can continue with the process as it is today and its established rules. On this point, the DOL was clear that a process started before PERM will be considered under the existing guidelines if the person does not voluntarily wish to re-file under PERM.
Jharkhandi
Registered Users (C)
Mickey can you send me web-site address?
I am not sure if this will make it through the screening process, but here goes: http://www.usvisanews.com/memo1750.html
DOL 2003 Performance Goals
Not sure how many people have seen this, ran across it yesterday:
http://www.dol.gov/_sec/budget2003/2003app-appendixa.htm
Jump down to 2.2B
Interesting to see that they've got the PERM 6 month goal for permanent certification processing listed for 2003.
Not sure how many people have seen this, ran across it yesterday:
http://www.dol.gov/_sec/budget2003/2003app-appendixa.htm
Jump down to 2.2B
Interesting to see that they've got the PERM 6 month goal for permanent certification processing listed for 2003.
Not looking good?
This from a chat session of a relevant website.....
User : Since PERM processing is not likely to begin anytime soon, is the DOL making any other efforts to reduce the huge backlogs? Thanks.
Attorney : On the contrary, they seem to take the position that since the economy has softened and there may be many U.S. workers available to do the job, they do not need to reduce backlogs. Rather, they are scrutinizing each LC application more closely than in the last three or so years. PERM was introduced in a boom market, but now with the downturn, PERM may no longer be a DOL priority after all.
This from a chat session of a relevant website.....
User : Since PERM processing is not likely to begin anytime soon, is the DOL making any other efforts to reduce the huge backlogs? Thanks.
Attorney : On the contrary, they seem to take the position that since the economy has softened and there may be many U.S. workers available to do the job, they do not need to reduce backlogs. Rather, they are scrutinizing each LC application more closely than in the last three or so years. PERM was introduced in a boom market, but now with the downturn, PERM may no longer be a DOL priority after all.