PERM Filing - Audit/Review Status
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Hi Nning
How are things ?
There is no update from my side. It has been 11 days for me. The only noticable thing so far is that some one in Murthy forum has reported receiving a letter to furnish recruitment reports to DOL, but his status was "Final Review" as opposed to "Audit review". There are also rumors that DOL has stopped processing Audit Reviews becasue of internal assessment of the system. I don't know if there is any truth to that.
Let's hope someone in the Audit Review state receive something from DOL, that would clarify a lot of things for all of us, until then let's hope EB-2 doesn't retrogress !!! Also it would be a good idea to request the lawyer to keep all the documents ready (inlcuding evidence of business necessity justification)
Good Luck.
--GCR
Hi Nning
How are things ?
There is no update from my side. It has been 11 days for me. The only noticable thing so far is that some one in Murthy forum has reported receiving a letter to furnish recruitment reports to DOL, but his status was "Final Review" as opposed to "Audit review". There are also rumors that DOL has stopped processing Audit Reviews becasue of internal assessment of the system. I don't know if there is any truth to that.
Let's hope someone in the Audit Review state receive something from DOL, that would clarify a lot of things for all of us, until then let's hope EB-2 doesn't retrogress !!! Also it would be a good idea to request the lawyer to keep all the documents ready (inlcuding evidence of business necessity justification)
Good Luck.
--GCR
nning said:
irinastaicu
Registered Users (C)
audit review
I am also in audit review status for 8 days. I am a cardiologist, thus EB2, which seems to create problems.
My lawyer told me today that we should not expect anything for at least 1 month. I am checking all the time with you about receiving any audit letter.
nning said:
I am also in audit review status for 8 days. I am a cardiologist, thus EB2, which seems to create problems.
My lawyer told me today that we should not expect anything for at least 1 month. I am checking all the time with you about receiving any audit letter.
irinastaicu
Registered Users (C)
audit review
Here is what I found on Murthy forum
"I asked PERM help how many status in this process, they wouldn't tell. They only said "Audit Review means that the PERM analyst has some questions about your application and will be sending you a letter soon asking those questions."
Here is what I found on Murthy forum
"I asked PERM help how many status in this process, they wouldn't tell. They only said "Audit Review means that the PERM analyst has some questions about your application and will be sending you a letter soon asking those questions."
Off the Topic
Don't get me wrong I am not comparing one profession vs. other all professions are equally important in terms of the contribution to the society.
But I guess Medicine has its own special place (not just today but from past various centuries). What surprises me is that Cardiologist, Radiologist and other specialists have to go through all the hassles while Nurses / PA's have no problems. There are special provisions for them and their family to bypass Visa quotas and they don't even have to file for Labor Certification. The reason they give is one word "Shortage". From my personal experience it takes 2-3 weeks to get an appointment with a specialist (Gastro/Cardio/Neuro etc). Then why aren't they previlaged with the same provisions as Nurses, they for sure are better educated and are contributing to society as much (if not more).
May be that's the way things are....
May be, being better educated and playing by the rules is not allowed in this game of immigration (where law breakers are rewarded and rules change in the middle !!!)
So much for PERM !!!!! This system is a joke
GCR
irinastaicu said:
Don't get me wrong I am not comparing one profession vs. other all professions are equally important in terms of the contribution to the society.
But I guess Medicine has its own special place (not just today but from past various centuries). What surprises me is that Cardiologist, Radiologist and other specialists have to go through all the hassles while Nurses / PA's have no problems. There are special provisions for them and their family to bypass Visa quotas and they don't even have to file for Labor Certification. The reason they give is one word "Shortage". From my personal experience it takes 2-3 weeks to get an appointment with a specialist (Gastro/Cardio/Neuro etc). Then why aren't they previlaged with the same provisions as Nurses, they for sure are better educated and are contributing to society as much (if not more).
May be that's the way things are....
May be, being better educated and playing by the rules is not allowed in this game of immigration (where law breakers are rewarded and rules change in the middle !!!)
So much for PERM !!!!! This system is a joke
GCR
Refiling on Audit Review
A few things:
1. How do you know system is fixed ? (Will you be looking at number of approvals ?)
2. How will you circumvent the problem of marking H.12, which could be the reason of current audit review. (Ignore this: If you H12 is not an issue for you)
3. How will you even know that you will not get audited this time around.
4. Your Ads might become invalid (180 days restriction)
5. How will you withdraw your current application (when it is under audit and you cannot file two applications)
6. What made you conclude that system is undergoing fixing and corrections ?
7. There are Audit reviews received even today, on a perfectly valid application so I really don't think there is anything one can do to avoid audit review.
8. Unfortunately though, I believe that Audit Review is a way to stop majority of applications to move to next step. (Similar to Security Check in I-485. Check out other threads where people are filling Law Suits against it)
Unless you are chaning your employer and title you have to stick to the current application. Let me know if you think there is a way around it. I might try that route too.
GCR
A few things:
1. How do you know system is fixed ? (Will you be looking at number of approvals ?)
2. How will you circumvent the problem of marking H.12, which could be the reason of current audit review. (Ignore this: If you H12 is not an issue for you)
3. How will you even know that you will not get audited this time around.
4. Your Ads might become invalid (180 days restriction)
5. How will you withdraw your current application (when it is under audit and you cannot file two applications)
6. What made you conclude that system is undergoing fixing and corrections ?
7. There are Audit reviews received even today, on a perfectly valid application so I really don't think there is anything one can do to avoid audit review.
8. Unfortunately though, I believe that Audit Review is a way to stop majority of applications to move to next step. (Similar to Security Check in I-485. Check out other threads where people are filling Law Suits against it)
Unless you are chaning your employer and title you have to stick to the current application. Let me know if you think there is a way around it. I might try that route too.
GCR
iampppqqq said:
GC_R./thanks/
I am thinking about it. The ad can be re-run and that is no problem. I agree with you about most of concerns, and I am just trying to find the benefit of reapplying. We can still withdraw cases at this point because there is no audit letter sending out.
In light of this news from immigration-law.
I think I am going to wait, but the word "certain" probably wouldn't apply to me. I checked the business necessity box.
06/24/2005: PERM Decision Matrix and Some Policy Changes to be Released by End of June or Early July
DFLC IT team is actively working on the change of PERM Decision Matrix considering the problems and certain policy issues the DFLC has experienced since the launch the PERM on March 28, 2005. The timeline for release of the changed Decision Matrix is disclosed to be the end of this month or early next month.
Once the revised Decision Matric is launched, most of certain denial cases and certain "Audit Review" cases will be rerun by the DFLC itself and give out a new decision. Please stay tuned.
I am thinking about it. The ad can be re-run and that is no problem. I agree with you about most of concerns, and I am just trying to find the benefit of reapplying. We can still withdraw cases at this point because there is no audit letter sending out.
In light of this news from immigration-law.
I think I am going to wait, but the word "certain" probably wouldn't apply to me. I checked the business necessity box.
06/24/2005: PERM Decision Matrix and Some Policy Changes to be Released by End of June or Early July
DFLC IT team is actively working on the change of PERM Decision Matrix considering the problems and certain policy issues the DFLC has experienced since the launch the PERM on March 28, 2005. The timeline for release of the changed Decision Matrix is disclosed to be the end of this month or early next month.
Once the revised Decision Matric is launched, most of certain denial cases and certain "Audit Review" cases will be rerun by the DFLC itself and give out a new decision. Please stay tuned.
Hello iampppqqq
Correct me if I am wrong. Your case is in "Audti Review" since May 8th and you have not recieved any letter yet.
Could you share where you got this information about system revision. All I heard is there is an post Perm launch evaluation..
My application is in Audit Review since May 20th.
Correct me if I am wrong. Your case is in "Audti Review" since May 8th and you have not recieved any letter yet.
Could you share where you got this information about system revision. All I heard is there is an post Perm launch evaluation..
My application is in Audit Review since May 20th.
To iampq
This is indeed a good news. In light of this I would wait for sometime and see if any "Audit Review" gets changed to Certified. Else I agree with you, a new filling would be a good option making sure that position justifies EB-2 and H.12 is not checked for business necessity.
This update might also explain why Audit Letters were not sent out so far.
May be we should see some approvals or Audit letters in Early/Mid July.
This is definitely a good news for people who have not checked H.12 for business necessity.
06/24/2005: PERM Decision Matrix and Some Policy Changes to be Released by End of June or Early July
DFLC IT team is actively working on the change of PERM Decision Matrix considering the problems and certain policy issues the DFLC has experienced since the launch the PERM on March 28, 2005. The timeline for release of the changed Decision Matrix is disclosed to be the end of this month or early next month.
Once the revised Decision Matric is launched, most of certain denial cases and certain "Audit Review" cases will be rerun by the DFLC itself and give out a new decision. Please stay tuned.[/QUOTE]
This is indeed a good news. In light of this I would wait for sometime and see if any "Audit Review" gets changed to Certified. Else I agree with you, a new filling would be a good option making sure that position justifies EB-2 and H.12 is not checked for business necessity.
This update might also explain why Audit Letters were not sent out so far.
May be we should see some approvals or Audit letters in Early/Mid July.
This is definitely a good news for people who have not checked H.12 for business necessity.
06/24/2005: PERM Decision Matrix and Some Policy Changes to be Released by End of June or Early July
DFLC IT team is actively working on the change of PERM Decision Matrix considering the problems and certain policy issues the DFLC has experienced since the launch the PERM on March 28, 2005. The timeline for release of the changed Decision Matrix is disclosed to be the end of this month or early next month.
Once the revised Decision Matric is launched, most of certain denial cases and certain "Audit Review" cases will be rerun by the DFLC itself and give out a new decision. Please stay tuned.[/QUOTE]
Bystander6
Registered Users (C)
PERM Denials Are Being Rurun Now!
The following is from http://www.immigration-law.com/ today. Good luck to everyone!
06/24/2005: PERM Denials Are Being Rurun Now!
The PERM Decision Matrix has been reconfigured and the DFLC has just started to rerun all the previous online filing denials and "Audit Review" cases. Those whose online filing cases have been denied should go back to the PERM Online Status site to check the new status. Most of the previous denials have apparently been converted to "sponsorship" for a fresh new review. Thank you, DFLC, for the quick corrective action.
The following is from http://www.immigration-law.com/ today. Good luck to everyone!
06/24/2005: PERM Denials Are Being Rurun Now!
The PERM Decision Matrix has been reconfigured and the DFLC has just started to rerun all the previous online filing denials and "Audit Review" cases. Those whose online filing cases have been denied should go back to the PERM Online Status site to check the new status. Most of the previous denials have apparently been converted to "sponsorship" for a fresh new review. Thank you, DFLC, for the quick corrective action.
Hello All..
apparently DOL is running the pre-denied applications. My first application got denied and we today recieved a Sponsorship email for the previously denied case...
Regarding my 2nd application which was in "Audit Review" state since 20 th may, the state has changed to "Final Review".
I dont know what to make out of this mess.
What does Final Review means??
I need to withdraw a case which one I dont know??? any criterias u guys can think of will be helpful
apparently DOL is running the pre-denied applications. My first application got denied and we today recieved a Sponsorship email for the previously denied case...
Regarding my 2nd application which was in "Audit Review" state since 20 th may, the state has changed to "Final Review".
I dont know what to make out of this mess.
What does Final Review means??
I need to withdraw a case which one I dont know??? any criterias u guys can think of will be helpful
To NNing
Hi NNing,
My situation is similar to Rajabhi. Mine changed to Final Review from Audit Review. I have checked H.12 yes for business necessity. I am not interpreting too much out of it. As others I will wait and see what will happen next.
Some reasons that come to my mind are:
1. Was your Ads six months validity expired on the day of re-run (24 June)
2. Did u check H.12 as no for business necessity, if your requirements are not normal and you H.12 then it might be an issue.
I hope things clarify soon for you and for everyone.
GCR
Hi NNing,
My situation is similar to Rajabhi. Mine changed to Final Review from Audit Review. I have checked H.12 yes for business necessity. I am not interpreting too much out of it. As others I will wait and see what will happen next.
Some reasons that come to my mind are:
1. Was your Ads six months validity expired on the day of re-run (24 June)
2. Did u check H.12 as no for business necessity, if your requirements are not normal and you H.12 then it might be an issue.
I hope things clarify soon for you and for everyone.
GCR
[/QUOTE]nning said:
To GC_Reform
Hi, GC_Reform,
Do you like to let me know your email address? so that I can discuss more with you from there?
what you mean is refiling the case, and check no to the Q H12, am i right?
my case was checked yes for Q H12, now after the rerun, the status was changed from Audit Review to Denied.
Thanks,
nning
Hi, GC_Reform,
Do you like to let me know your email address? so that I can discuss more with you from there?
what you mean is refiling the case, and check no to the Q H12, am i right?
my case was checked yes for Q H12, now after the rerun, the status was changed from Audit Review to Denied.
Thanks,
nning
[/QUOTE]GC_Reform said:
here is the summary
R check NO to H12, meaning not normal (final review)
GCR checked YES to H12, meaning normal (final review)
NNing checked YES to H12, meaning normal (denied)
Myself checked NO to H12, meaning not normal (waiting for lawyer)
GCR, i wouldn't think the ad date would have anything to do with the rerun. At least lets hope that way.
R check NO to H12, meaning not normal (final review)
GCR checked YES to H12, meaning normal (final review)
NNing checked YES to H12, meaning normal (denied)
Myself checked NO to H12, meaning not normal (waiting for lawyer)
GCR, i wouldn't think the ad date would have anything to do with the rerun. At least lets hope that way.
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