I expect you to get the approval notice in the mail on 5/6 for I-130, and the 485 approval to follow 3 days later with no online update
Parent's Cases Only: Tracking Thread
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I think its just random. One of my friend's parents were also asked to do medical for the second time. The doctor said that some immunization shots were introduced. So i expected my parents to get that letter as well. But they didn't. Similar discrepancies were observed in another case that i know. So i believe its more random. Don't worry too much about it.
Vishnu Mahadev
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RFE after 130 approval: Certificate of Good Conduct???
Following message in blue appeared in the e-mail and on USCIS web site for my parent:
Since we have submitted ALL the known information with 485, at this time ( before receiving the letter in the mail) we suspect, it is imfamous Certificate Of Good Conduct due to failure to read Finger Prints correctly in the 2nd attempt.
As per Vinayakk and Perl 177 (http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=295028 ) , I will initiate process to obtain such certificate from our local police department.
The Question: Is local Police Department Certificate good enough or we need to get and submit certificate from Mumbai also?
Can local Indian Consulate in San Francisco help and if yes, how long do they take?
This is the time to keep the head cool and not let emotions dictate you.
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
On May 5, 2009, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the requested information. This case will be in suspense until we receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires. Once we receive the requested evidence or information and make a decision on the case, you will be notified by mail. If you move while this case is pending, call 1-800-375-5283 to update your address.
Following message in blue appeared in the e-mail and on USCIS web site for my parent:
Since we have submitted ALL the known information with 485, at this time ( before receiving the letter in the mail) we suspect, it is imfamous Certificate Of Good Conduct due to failure to read Finger Prints correctly in the 2nd attempt.
As per Vinayakk and Perl 177 (http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=295028 ) , I will initiate process to obtain such certificate from our local police department.
The Question: Is local Police Department Certificate good enough or we need to get and submit certificate from Mumbai also?
Can local Indian Consulate in San Francisco help and if yes, how long do they take?
This is the time to keep the head cool and not let emotions dictate you.
Application Type: I485, APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
On May 5, 2009, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the requested information. This case will be in suspense until we receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires. Once we receive the requested evidence or information and make a decision on the case, you will be notified by mail. If you move while this case is pending, call 1-800-375-5283 to update your address.
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Vishnu Mahadev
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Certificate Of Good Conduct
Please find attached a request to give Police clearance Letter.
Can you confirm the deliverable against this request is enough to satisfy USCIS ?
Please find attached a request to give Police clearance Letter.
Can you confirm the deliverable against this request is enough to satisfy USCIS ?
I have just mailed the response for my father on Monday. I will update the thread as soon as I hear something. I believe that this letter is enough. The letter from the Police Department does not mention any time period but says that no records for this person within the area of their jurisdiction. So i think that covers what USCIS would want.
Vinayak
Vishnu Mahadev
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Thanks Vinayakk for checking back the forum and answering my important question.
Logically, it makes sense: BECAUSE, when USCIS takes Fingerprints, they only check them against their database in America and not in the motherland of the applicant.
So when the county of residence gives clearance letter, it should suffice.
When you are operating on your parents, third opinion helps. emotional logic.
Here is the fun stuff from my end: As of Saturday 9th May 2009 morning, RFE, that was supposed to be mailed to my home on 5th May 2009, has not reached home after 5 business days (sigh), but thanks to volunteers like Vinayakk and Perl177, TC-SKG, JonnyCash and Rajeev Khanna, We have ALREADY obtained Letter of clearance from our local police station. I will still have to open RFE, when it eventually reaches my home in this slow economy, and make sure it is asking for the same
Also, as a pre-emptive strategy I called IRS and requested tax transcripts for year 2008.
We being self employed consultants, it is one possible thing.
Also, last but not least, I have taken a tentative appointment with doctor if RFE has to say anything about extra vaccines. So fielding is all set waiting for the ball now...
Logically, it makes sense: BECAUSE, when USCIS takes Fingerprints, they only check them against their database in America and not in the motherland of the applicant.
So when the county of residence gives clearance letter, it should suffice.
When you are operating on your parents, third opinion helps.
emotional logic.Here is the fun stuff from my end: As of Saturday 9th May 2009 morning, RFE, that was supposed to be mailed to my home on 5th May 2009, has not reached home after 5 business days (sigh), but thanks to volunteers like Vinayakk and Perl177, TC-SKG, JonnyCash and Rajeev Khanna, We have ALREADY obtained Letter of clearance from our local police station. I will still have to open RFE, when it eventually reaches my home in this slow economy, and make sure it is asking for the same
Also, as a pre-emptive strategy I called IRS and requested tax transcripts for year 2008.
We being self employed consultants, it is one possible thing.
Also, last but not least, I have taken a tentative appointment with doctor if RFE has to say anything about extra vaccines. So fielding is all set waiting for the ball now...
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Vishnu Mahadev
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RFE received at home
Vinayakk and Perl177:
Both of you submitted the Letter of Clearance from local police stations.
Question: Mom tends to have two names in 325G. Maiden and post marriage.
Did the certificate from local police station mentioned both the names in it?
If yes: Great.
if no: How can USCIS know that name check was performed for the maiden name ?
The letter that I got from our local PD mentions only married name of my mother, birthdate and address but not her Maiden name.
Considering we don't have long time at our hand, do you think I should approach PD again and ask them to furnish both , Maiden and married names of my mother in their letter of clearance. IF they charged fees again, no problem, but it may be full proof.
What say you ?
Vinayakk: Even if the letter does not mention the time in it, the 325G that we submitted earlier, clearly states the details of residence for the last 5 years so it is upto USCIS to interpret the information in the limitations.
What say you ?
Update on Monday morning: I read this thread once again and at the very beginning of the thread the RFE said "All the aliases" so I am going back to Police Station and asking them to put both the names used by my mother in the letter.
Update on Monday afternoon: RFE is received at home now. It says the expected message: "Certification of Good Conduct: The applicant's fingerprints have twice been rejected as 'illegible'. Additional evidence is required to continue processing the adjustment of status application" Please provide a letter issued by the local law enforcement agency (County Sheriff's Office or Local Police Department) indicating the application has "no criminal record". The record search should include all the aliases (all the other names) the applicant may have used in the past. A separate letter is required for each law enforcement district in which the applicant has resided during the previous five years.
I will get the letter with both the names: Maiden and Married and submit to USCIS tomorrow. There will be a long silence after that and I'll then report the outcome.
Vinayakk and Perl177:
Both of you submitted the Letter of Clearance from local police stations.
Question: Mom tends to have two names in 325G. Maiden and post marriage.
Did the certificate from local police station mentioned both the names in it?
If yes: Great.
if no: How can USCIS know that name check was performed for the maiden name ?
The letter that I got from our local PD mentions only married name of my mother, birthdate and address but not her Maiden name.
Considering we don't have long time at our hand, do you think I should approach PD again and ask them to furnish both , Maiden and married names of my mother in their letter of clearance. IF they charged fees again, no problem, but it may be full proof.
What say you ?
Vinayakk: Even if the letter does not mention the time in it, the 325G that we submitted earlier, clearly states the details of residence for the last 5 years so it is upto USCIS to interpret the information in the limitations.
What say you ?
Update on Monday morning: I read this thread once again and at the very beginning of the thread the RFE said "All the aliases" so I am going back to Police Station and asking them to put both the names used by my mother in the letter.
Update on Monday afternoon: RFE is received at home now. It says the expected message: "Certification of Good Conduct: The applicant's fingerprints have twice been rejected as 'illegible'. Additional evidence is required to continue processing the adjustment of status application" Please provide a letter issued by the local law enforcement agency (County Sheriff's Office or Local Police Department) indicating the application has "no criminal record". The record search should include all the aliases (all the other names) the applicant may have used in the past. A separate letter is required for each law enforcement district in which the applicant has resided during the previous five years.
I will get the letter with both the names: Maiden and Married and submit to USCIS tomorrow. There will be a long silence after that and I'll then report the outcome.
I believe the USCIS is only interested in the name the parent may have used during the stay in US. Atleast in San Jose, the application form for Police Clearance had fields to write any other names that may be have been. Its probably prudent to get the certificate that includes all the name but not mandatory in my opinion.
As far as the time line, the letter just said that no records found for this person, within SJPD jurisdiction. It didn't say anything about a time line. Since both our addresses were within San Jose, I added a cover letter to the response and mentioned that both our addresses fall under SJPD jurisdiction.
All I can do now is to play the waiting game again.
Vinayak
As far as the time line, the letter just said that no records found for this person, within SJPD jurisdiction. It didn't say anything about a time line. Since both our addresses were within San Jose, I added a cover letter to the response and mentioned that both our addresses fall under SJPD jurisdiction.
All I can do now is to play the waiting game again.
Vinayak
Vishnu Mahadev
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What does your research say about timeline after RFE
From the umpteen cases we saw in the same category, what does your research indicate about time line to get approval after we send in the reply to such RFE. I may be too optimistic here, but USCIS should come back with 485 approval pretty fast , say within a week, after receiving it.
From the umpteen cases we saw in the same category, what does your research indicate about time line to get approval after we send in the reply to such RFE. I may be too optimistic here, but USCIS should come back with 485 approval pretty fast , say within a week, after receiving it.
Vishnu Mahadev
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Important Information for Parent's GC
Important information on AP expiration:
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296371
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Fingerprinting 2nd notice repercussions:
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...31#post2037531
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Responsibility for: I864 & I-864A
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296378
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Genuine Problem in obtaning birth certificate for parent
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296440
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GC Parents: Never leave USA longer than 2 years
...and even for 2 years, do not forget to get the re-entry permit beforehand.
OR
else kiss your GC goodbye.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297220
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Can parents see Niagara from Canada side while Gc in process?
...may be NOT
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297238
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131 questions
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...=1#post2044600
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How to package the Gc applications: 131, 765, 130, 485, 864, 864-A, 693, 325g
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...=1#post2044602
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2nd FP notice readyness
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297427
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Case of an Adopted Child
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297534
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--Interpreter for Parent's Interview ?
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297630
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Few more parent's cases
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297602
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297613
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Parent's property matters while doing their GC
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297570
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You can do GC for your father if you can prove him to be
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297378
Important information on AP expiration:
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296371
-------------------------------------------------------------
Fingerprinting 2nd notice repercussions:
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...31#post2037531
-------------------------------------------------------------
Responsibility for: I864 & I-864A
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296378
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Genuine Problem in obtaning birth certificate for parent
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=296440
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GC Parents: Never leave USA longer than 2 years
...and even for 2 years, do not forget to get the re-entry permit beforehand.
OR
else kiss your GC goodbye.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297220
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Can parents see Niagara from Canada side while Gc in process?
...may be NOT
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297238
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
131 questions
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...=1#post2044600
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How to package the Gc applications: 131, 765, 130, 485, 864, 864-A, 693, 325g
http://forums.immigration.com/showth...=1#post2044602
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2nd FP notice readyness
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297427
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Case of an Adopted Child
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297534
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--Interpreter for Parent's Interview ?
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297630
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Few more parent's cases
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297602
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297613
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Parent's property matters while doing their GC
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297570
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You can do GC for your father if you can prove him to be
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=297378
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update on my father's case - we had been to SFO USCIS office today for interview. It went very smooth, the lady officer was very courteous. She asked some simple questions - last time you entered US, last job in India, she went over yes/no questions in form 485,..
Finally she approved it and gave us a letter with A# and told that we will receive the green card in 6-8 weeks.
Finally she approved it and gave us a letter with A# and told that we will receive the green card in 6-8 weeks.
Vishnu Mahadev
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Congratulations Lalit. You are a good Son. May god bless your family.
One question as a result of discussions going on this forum: Was your father's case transferred to CSC(California Service Center) in prior to this Interview?
One gets a separate letter stating that case is transferred to CSC for speedy processing.
One question as a result of discussions going on this forum: Was your father's case transferred to CSC(California Service Center) in prior to this Interview?
One gets a separate letter stating that case is transferred to CSC for speedy processing.
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Congratulations.
Any idea why your father was interviewed? I read most parent case doesn't need interview.
Were you able to sit in the interview or your father went in by himself? What happened if he doesn't speak english?
Can you share if this is your father first trip to US and how long after he visited that you filed for him?
Thanks
thanks Vishnu for your wishes! I hope your mother's case gets through quickly.
I didnt get letter that his my father's case is transferred to CSC, directly got interview letter for SFS USCIS.
I had similar question when I recd interview for my father, many people have received GC directly.
There is no clear answer as to why some people get it directly and some have to go through the interview process. One pattern I have seen is if there are not gaps in documentation, paperwork - in mother's case (and father as well if filed alongwith), GC is directly issued in AOS cases, but cant vouch for that since there are cases where some mothers were called in for interview.
Yes, I was with my father all along. In my case, the lady officer let me speak or even respond to question directed to my father even though he can communicate well in English. If your parents dont speak English at all, then you act as their translator.
This was my father's 3rd trip to US. Make sure your parents have this information along with last time they entered US - information that you supplied in one of the forms.
I waited for around 3 months before initiating his GC. There is no hard and fast rule, but I read in this forum that waiting for 3 months is generally recommended.
I didnt get letter that his my father's case is transferred to CSC, directly got interview letter for SFS USCIS.
I had similar question when I recd interview for my father, many people have received GC directly.
There is no clear answer as to why some people get it directly and some have to go through the interview process. One pattern I have seen is if there are not gaps in documentation, paperwork - in mother's case (and father as well if filed alongwith), GC is directly issued in AOS cases, but cant vouch for that since there are cases where some mothers were called in for interview.
Yes, I was with my father all along. In my case, the lady officer let me speak or even respond to question directed to my father even though he can communicate well in English. If your parents dont speak English at all, then you act as their translator.
This was my father's 3rd trip to US. Make sure your parents have this information along with last time they entered US - information that you supplied in one of the forms.
I waited for around 3 months before initiating his GC. There is no hard and fast rule, but I read in this forum that waiting for 3 months is generally recommended.
Latit,
Thanks for the info. I read your previous posts to understand your case better.
My mom has been to the us 4 times. Where do I enter this info as the I-130 only asked for the last time.
It will be 3 months at the end of this month and I plan to apply a week before that.
Thanks for the info. I read your previous posts to understand your case better.
My mom has been to the us 4 times. Where do I enter this info as the I-130 only asked for the last time.
It will be 3 months at the end of this month and I plan to apply a week before that.
Vishnu Mahadev
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If you want to explicitly mention about your parent's USa visits, I believe you can enter this info in 325g but you must confirm if address entries in 325g are to be treated for duration more than 180 days and where you ultimately ended up filing taxes for that year.
The second place is your parent's passposrt page copies whih show entry and exit stamps, which is a safer bet as it is implicit info.
The second place is your parent's passposrt page copies whih show entry and exit stamps, which is a safer bet as it is implicit info.
'last time' is all is required in the form. Its just good idea to know how many times you have visited US.
Vishnu Mahadev
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an old case requiring police clearance: It clearly says USCIS IO stating certificate not required from home country. Reading the thread shows how much of fear and anxiety exist amongst immigrants. I don't blame them for it but clarity in information can help on USCIS web site stating what they mean by certificate of good Conduct and where to get it from in their own wording.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=261448
17th August 2007, 11:06 AM
gcINla
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4
I called the USCIS again yesterday and was able to talk to a nice lady from California local service center. She put me on hold and ran to a nearby office to talk to an officer and confirmed me that the Police Clearance from China is NOT needed.
Same answer was given to me the day before when I talked to someone from the national service center.
So I guess I just follow their instruction as it's extremely difficult to obtain this from my homecity.
http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=261448
17th August 2007, 11:06 AM
gcINla
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4
I called the USCIS again yesterday and was able to talk to a nice lady from California local service center. She put me on hold and ran to a nearby office to talk to an officer and confirmed me that the Police Clearance from China is NOT needed.
Same answer was given to me the day before when I talked to someone from the national service center.
So I guess I just follow their instruction as it's extremely difficult to obtain this from my homecity.
Vishnu Mahadev
Registered Users (C)
Does anyone have info on what happens after evidence is sent (in this case certificate of good conduct) to USCIS CSC? Do they just acknowledge reply to RFE and make you wait for actual approval or approval comes out directly. What is the duration we are talking about after reply to RFE has physically reached CSC for such matters.
I wonder about that too. On some other thread i asked the same question to another person who had sent the letter of good conduct and received GC for his parent. It took him about 3 weeks.
In my case, I sent the response, on May 4th, using next day delivery and it was delivered to them the next day (May 5th). But the USCIS website did not update the status until end of last week and it says "Response received on May 13th". The loss of these 8 days may also attribute to the delay.