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I think we should also concentrate on one more important issue like labor reuse. Suppose S.1932 passes, with the current system (Labor reuse) the
recaptured visa number will not help us much (at least not to me). it is just unfair people who file later gets GC faster.

We should also form a lobby or write them to Eliminate the labor substitution. Elimination of labor substitution will help more towards reducing the retrogression.

My two cents :)
 
rayyan said:
I think we should also concentrate on one more important issue like labor reuse. Suppose S.1932 passes, with the current system (Labor reuse) the
recaptured visa number will not help us much (at least not to me). it is just unfair people who file later gets GC faster.

We should also form a lobby or write them to Eliminate the labor substitution. Elimination of labor substitution will help more towards reducing the retrogression.

My two cents :)
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Agree. But I think, we should write to ombudsman about stopping Labor substitution or, at least, PD should be I-140 filling date in that case.
 
So shall we start writing to ombudsman about stopping Labor substitution ????.

Can somebody come up with a letter format?

voldemarv said:
Agree. But I think, we should write to ombudsman about stopping Labor substitution or, at least, PD should be I-140 filling date in that case.
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I agree and strongly bsupport ellimination of LC substitution. This is baseless and total injustice to right person. Many companies made lot of $$$ out of that


rayyan said:
So shall we start writing to ombudsman about stopping Labor substitution ????.

Can somebody come up with a letter format?
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I totally agree but at the same time we should not dilute by bringing up too many things. Let this bill S.1932 pass and then we can hop onto the next issue.
 
Lets hope for the best !!!!

jinx said:
I totally agree but at the same time we should not dilute by bringing up too many things. Let this bill S.1932 pass and then we can hop onto the next issue.
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Yes.Right now I am also concentrating on on S.1932.

We can have this on the way later. Guys we still have hope under the broken immigration system. :)
 
So what are our plans

So what are our plans. Guys frankly speaking I don't have much confidence on bill S.1932. Even if it passes how much is it going to help us. And the draw back of this is bill is Excluding Dependents" So what is my wife and children going to do. U get your GC but how about them. My wife is a doc and counting her days since I filed my GC. Am I going to live her alone in this "Daud".. Sure she will be happy if I get mine. But what about her.

I see my hopes only in Labor Subs Elimination" ... Rayyan since you started this topic can you tell me what is your plan, or anyone on this forum who can proceed with this.
I know we are not going to get any help from our employer and lawyers on this issue. Because they can make lot of $$$ out of this. But guys neither did we get any help with our fight in retrogression.

I saw on the different forum that Rajiv never got back to us on this issue. Murthy is another Sham .OK guys we are alone but remember together we are never alone. So lets start a new LOBBY.

I was silent observer but not anymore. I faxed the letters to congress

UNITED WE STAND

TOGETHER WE CAN AND WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.


rayyan said:
I think we should also concentrate on one more important issue like labor reuse. Suppose S.1932 passes, with the current system (Labor reuse) the
recaptured visa number will not help us much (at least not to me). it is just unfair people who file later gets GC faster.

We should also form a lobby or write them to Eliminate the labor substitution. Elimination of labor substitution will help more towards reducing the retrogression.

My two cents :)
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dependants

Zain,

From my understanding, dependants are excluded from the quota means, they can STILL FILE WITH YOU, they just wont be counted in the annual quota. Meaning right now if you and ur wife file from lets say India, then you contribute towards 2 Immigrant visa numbers / green cards. If the new rule is implemented and you both apply it is only counted as One.

Everyone else, does that sound correct?
 
kalimmigration said:
Yes its right. The same question is answered lot of times. So if s1932 becomes law its really helpful
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Thanks guys . But will it be counted against family based category :confused:
 
lc substitution

Guys i keep hearing that LCs are being "sold in the open market". First off people who have mentioned that, is that really true? I mean do we know of any real life cases we have seen with our own eyes. If we have we shud complain st away to the UCSIS. LC substitution may be legal at the moment but selling it is DEFINETELY ILLEGAL.

Pls dont get me wrong i am not saying ppl are spreading rumours, it just drives me nuts thinking that ppl are actually scamming this way!
 
Hello

I have just purchased an approved labor for 4k. This is legal as per the attorney. But soon these rules wil go away as people are misusing it.

Newbie
 
nozdam said:
Guys i keep hearing that LCs are being "sold in the open market". First off people who have mentioned that, is that really true? I mean do we know of any real life cases we have seen with our own eyes. If we have we shud complain st away to the UCSIS. LC substitution may be legal at the moment but selling it is DEFINETELY ILLEGAL.

Pls dont get me wrong i am not saying ppl are spreading rumours, it just drives me nuts thinking that ppl are actually scamming this way!
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What do you call this.
I had short of 31 days of 365 days I called one of the guy ***soft saw his add on one of Indians favorite site.."SUL...". I asked him I am on my 5th year and short of 31 days to file my GC and he said he has it and for that I need to transfer the visa as well as pay up-front $10,000+attorney fees+ Ad fees+....+ just for the LC and for step1 and step2 the charges are 1500+1500.

So just for LC it was coming around $15,000. Does this sound reasonable.
But anyway I was lucky I got vacation days recaptured
 
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nozdam said:
Guys i keep hearing that LCs are being "sold in the open market". First off people who have mentioned that, is that really true? I mean do we know of any real life cases we have seen with our own eyes. If we have we shud complain st away to the UCSIS. LC substitution may be legal at the moment but selling it is DEFINETELY ILLEGAL.

Pls dont get me wrong i am not saying ppl are spreading rumours, it just drives me nuts thinking that ppl are actually scamming this way!
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Now tell a one good reason in the current situation why wouldnt' they sell LC in the open market at the rate of $$$$$$. Lets say if I filed my GC in 2004 and I am on my sixth year
and made good $$$ .I would spent few extra bucks to get a LC with PD 2000 or 20001. At least I don't have to wait until 2012 (in the curent situatiion) to get my GC.
And who knows after 2010 will again go cak to 1901.

Now don't ask me why did not buy the LC from that Guy. I clearly pointed above "good $$$ " I didnot make bcos my employer/attorney/middle layers/uscis/dol everybody sucked me
 
my bad

Ok guys my mistake. I thought it was illegal. This is ridiculous. I mean how can it be legal to sell something like that? Anyway sorry abt my earlier post
 
But though it favors me, I do not know which stupid approved this rule.
It motivates companies to misuse and sell the approved labor and make some money. I feel sorry for this. But I am sure there are lot of mistakes USCIS has made like this.

Another funny thing is that the recent bill does not even mentiion about this.

Downside is you have to spend and the upside is yoiu priority date is much earlier than the date you landed in this country.

Big HOLE and no patching in progress

GO USCIS the SAME WAY
 
company lobbys

I think companies might have lobbied to get this labour substitution approved. Think abt it, A company spends close to 3K and gets the labour approved and the employee leaves or gets laid off and that job is no longer needed. That money is down the drain, so they may have complained that they shud be allowed to sell that LC (if that position is no longer needed or no cash flow to support that positon) or hire a new employee and re-use it (if employee leaves). I would LOVE to see LC subs ending but i doubt they will do it. But this is just my 2 cents.
 
labor_replace said:
But though it favors me, I do not know which stupid approved this rule.
It motivates companies to misuse and sell the approved labor and make some money. I feel sorry for this. But I am sure there are lot of mistakes USCIS has made like this.

Another funny thing is that the recent bill does not even mentiion about this.

Downside is you have to spend and the upside is yoiu priority date is much earlier than the date you landed in this country.

Big HOLE and no patching in progress

GO USCIS the SAME WAY
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Yes. Don't you think we need to do something about this. Guys we need to help ourselves. I saw the posting on immigration-law.com about the labor subs elimination. Does anybody have any updates on this yet?
 
nozdam said:
I think companies might have lobbied to get this labour substitution approved. Think abt it, A company spends close to 3K and gets the labour approved and the employee leaves or gets laid off and that job is no longer needed. That money is down the drain, so they may have complained that they shud be allowed to sell that LC (if that position is no longer needed or no cash flow to support that positon) or hire a new employee and re-use it (if employee leaves). I would LOVE to see LC subs ending but i doubt they will do it. But this is just my 2 cents.
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In such a situation to avoid misuse, the PD of an applicant using Pre-approved labor should be the date USCIS is notified of the use of the pre-approved LC. In addition the applicant should have to wait for a period which is equivalent to the average/normal wait time for LC approvals (e.g. say 6 months) from notification to USCIS before they become eligible to file I-140.
This would put an applicant using pre-approved LC on an equal footing as someone who is going thru the usual steps (i.e. LC --> 140 --> 485/CP)

This would take away the attraction of muscling in ahead of the Que...

Opinions?!?
 
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