hkhr said:disaapointment for EB3 India.
EB2 India moved forward 6 months.
Schedule A kicked in, retrogressed to OCt 05
VB sucks!
gc_tx_2003 said:the cut off date movement has absolutely nothing to do with the backlog centers.
please read the directions carefully, they have said moving these dates
creates thousands of applications ( meaning these are the ones that are already in the I-485 Q filed earlier, and the visa number for them will be consumed only in the very last stage of the application adjucations ).
If you think about it, they have moved
EB2 india by 6 months,
eb2 china by 4 mo
eb3 row by 2 mo
with these movements they are saying thousands of apps now become eligible
and I am pretty confident most of them are in EB2 india.
what they are primarily saying is the following - We know there are thousands of apps in the I-485 Q, but we still do not know how many of them will actually consume the numbers ( because of how long it takes for I-485 processing in the various centers). If we move it just by one month, then there won't be enough demand ( remember very last stage of adjucation -- may be after the I-485 interview), so we are moving it by 6 months, to see how many of them will make it this month.
it is so sad, that they cannot control the flow precisely in a predictable manner, they are still playing the gate closed / gate open game.
the movement by 6 mo for EB2 india, thou seems to be good initially, the note practically means if I-485 processing is fast it could mean "U" very soon
it really does not address the issues of where the spillovers from EB1 / EB2 ROW go ( to EB2 oversubscribed or EB3 ROW ), if there are any.
GC_TRAP said:For anyone following the debate closely, and watching the erratic and mostly laggard behavior of visa bulletins, should not be too surprised by this bulletin.
Whether there is a huge back-pile of 245(i)'s or genuine EB-3 numbers in many many thousands holding up dates for EB-3 India, it is clear that there is no short-cuts for PD progression.
Not to sound conspiratorial, but I'm convinced that besides a possible reality of too many applications from India in various categories, there may be an added reluctance on DOS' part to move things forward quickly. Whether they are bound by law to move things quickly and if there is any authority and audit that is done to ensure that is debatable.
The footnote of ITEM E is an ominous signal that worse things are coming in the near future. It is a typical "CYA" (cover your a**) approach from DOS for future retrogressions and subsequent angst and anguish from the victims of it.
One poster comments that this is well-deserved because we can never "get a collective act together". But there is a collective act in the form of IV and we now know that we are up against a very powerful, non-transparent, and mostly inefficient government agency. I work for the government and I know exactly how it operates on the inside.
Regardless, no matter what games and obstacles the rogues throw at us, with patience and determination, WE WILL PREVAIL. The ones who want the GC and are willing to stick it out, will surely get it. They (the authority) know that it's a game of patience (not always of right and wrong, deserving or undeserving) but of who can stick it out the longest.
GCInThisLife said:Good analysis gc_tx_2003! Seems logical. Most folks (including me earlier) are unnecessarily making the relatively simple concept complicated.
To put it in simple terms, it is analogous to a waiting queue outside empire state building or liberty bell where weekdays ~ ROW and weekends ~ Retro. Every time the guard lifts the rope, he allows a only certain number visitors in based on the information he gets about number of visitors leaving the building and number already in (on top and/or waiting for elevator). If no more available on top, he will hold the rope down (~unavailable) and not let anyone in until he sees a sign that crowd is clearing. This is basically to control/limit the crowd on top of the building. On weekdays, you can go straight to elevator since the inflow is usually less than or equal to outflow. This example doesn't include an equivalent for 485 denials, but jumping off the building can be considered as denial. .
So based on the simple information on approx. 485 processing time, number of predicted approvals (or max allowed) and estimated number of new applications for each month advance (may be based on already filed/approved 140s) the cut off dates would be moved so that more applicants can get into 485 processing. If they get more than estimated, the dates move back. If they get less than expected, dates advance rapidly. However, IF their estimates are correct, the cut off date moment should be uniform. For example, I think EB2 dates hovered around Jun 02 to Jan 03 and unavailable in recent months bc's they are getting much more than estimated new 485 filings (may be due to concurrent filings from recent BEC approvals of old PDs or EB3 to EB2 conversions) . This probably the reason why EB1 applicants are getting 485 approvals fast now (as soon as name check is cleared) as their is no queue inside waiting for visa numbers.
GC_TRAP said:For anyone following the debate closely, and watching the erratic and mostly laggard behavior of visa bulletins, should not be too surprised by this bulletin.
Whether there is a huge back-pile of 245(i)'s or genuine EB-3 numbers in many many thousands holding up dates for EB-3 India, it is clear that there is no short-cuts for PD progression.
Not to sound conspiratorial, but I'm convinced that besides a possible reality of too many applications from India in various categories, there may be an added reluctance on DOS' part to move things forward quickly. Whether they are bound by law to move things quickly and if there is any authority and audit that is done to ensure that is debatable.
The footnote of ITEM E is an ominous signal that worse things are coming in the near future. It is a typical "CYA" (cover your a**) approach from DOS for future retrogressions and subsequent angst and anguish from the victims of it.
One poster comments that this is well-deserved because we can never "get a collective act together". But there is a collective act in the form of IV and we now know that we are up against a very powerful, non-transparent, and mostly inefficient government agency. I work for the government and I know exactly how it operates on the inside.
Regardless, no matter what games and obstacles the rogues throw at us, with patience and determination, WE WILL PREVAIL. The ones who want the GC and are willing to stick it out, will surely get it. They (the authority) know that it's a game of patience (not always of right and wrong, deserving or undeserving) but of who can stick it out the longest.
nyc8300 said:You will EVENTUALLY get GC for sure.
You seem patient enough to endure all the abuses. Also you refer to IV as your reason for not doing anything. Pretty pathetic!
I think it is shameful that Indians can't seem to come together for a common cause. No wonder the British screwed us for so long....
tedun said:I am ROW EB3, with PD July 1, 2002.
Does it mean that I am current with the Nov bulletin or I have to wait for the next one? One day can make such a huge difference.