next bulletin guess a waste of time, Fight Retro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, FOIA with USCIS
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nozdam said:
Everything you wrote is good, but one thing I dont understand still is that you missed out the most important thing.
"Abolish Labor Substitution"
I keep saying this every other day in these forums, no one however realizes the enormous impact Labor Substitution is having on the PD's.
I guess most people who are in these forums bought a certified Labor and hence are afraid to talk about abolishing it. You guys have to understand that if Labor Substitution is abolished its not going to effect people who already have done it. It should stop further abuse of the rule.
Please guys I know we wont get support for this from the lawyers and employers, but whenever you guys write to senators and other politicians please include this also.
neocor
Neocor,
Makaman had started this topic and I have emailed OMBUDSMAN for the LABOR SUB Elimination. Please guys lets push harder for evrything we can. We don't know which one works. So please simultaneoulsy do this as well
STOP LABOR SUBSTITUTION
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=196356
Makaman had started this topic and I have emailed OMBUDSMAN for the LABOR SUB Elimination. Please guys lets push harder for evrything we can. We don't know which one works. So please simultaneoulsy do this as well
STOP LABOR SUBSTITUTION
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=196356
neocor said:
Doing too much
Guys,
While you and I understand what labor substitution is, the Big Guys up there DONT. They can BARELY distinguish between H1b And Green Cards. If we suddenly introduce this new term Labor Substitution, they will get totally Confused. Pls, lets take this ONE step at a time, esp when it comes to educating them. The LAST thing we need is for them to get utterly confused. People like you and me, still are confused abt the legalities and intricacies of Labour substitution. Emailing ombudsman is one thing, emailing senators/congressmen with this term is another.
Labour substitution is something bigger than you and me. Currently it is PERFECTLY legal apparently and for a lot of companies it makes sense too. We ALL wud LOVE to see it being abolished, but i dont see it happening anytime soon. Think abt it, ur a company owner, u spent $3,000.00 for ur employee's labour and then after it gets done he leaves. Ur 3K is RIGHT down the drain. Ofcourse you want to be able to sell it and make ur money back. Abolishing labor substitution is like a BIG can of worms. We can LATER plead that it be ammended so that the priority date on that application CANNOT be reused. But that has to be done MUCH later. Right now we want that all those who havent been able to apply for 485+EAD+AP be able to do so and those who have applied start getting their GCs. The fight against labour subs is like the 8020 rule on the Paretto analysis. We will spend 80% of our time, (plus get Opposition from the Big companies) and only achieve (if at all) abt 15-20% of the objective.
Guys,
While you and I understand what labor substitution is, the Big Guys up there DONT. They can BARELY distinguish between H1b And Green Cards. If we suddenly introduce this new term Labor Substitution, they will get totally Confused. Pls, lets take this ONE step at a time, esp when it comes to educating them. The LAST thing we need is for them to get utterly confused. People like you and me, still are confused abt the legalities and intricacies of Labour substitution. Emailing ombudsman is one thing, emailing senators/congressmen with this term is another.
Labour substitution is something bigger than you and me. Currently it is PERFECTLY legal apparently and for a lot of companies it makes sense too. We ALL wud LOVE to see it being abolished, but i dont see it happening anytime soon. Think abt it, ur a company owner, u spent $3,000.00 for ur employee's labour and then after it gets done he leaves. Ur 3K is RIGHT down the drain. Ofcourse you want to be able to sell it and make ur money back. Abolishing labor substitution is like a BIG can of worms. We can LATER plead that it be ammended so that the priority date on that application CANNOT be reused. But that has to be done MUCH later. Right now we want that all those who havent been able to apply for 485+EAD+AP be able to do so and those who have applied start getting their GCs. The fight against labour subs is like the 8020 rule on the Paretto analysis. We will spend 80% of our time, (plus get Opposition from the Big companies) and only achieve (if at all) abt 15-20% of the objective.
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correct one step at a time also labor sub already with OM, touch the root cause first
which is that the cutoff is fabricated and not actual, so ask that basis of getting the damn 98/99 or why no steps like clearing off those old cases still done. Labor Sub should be banned no doubt as even if I used the original labor sub, it is bound to get recycled soon. The good part I see here that the std reply has changed then the last time a month ago I had seen, it looks like now the OMBUDSMAN knows the issue and some more emails with a little different text here or there would make an impact. Unlike senators the OMBUDSMAN is sure to read our emails and act to best of the capabilites / authority he has as this is the only key task for that position to find out the problems in USCIS and report to top key officials
which is that the cutoff is fabricated and not actual, so ask that basis of getting the damn 98/99 or why no steps like clearing off those old cases still done. Labor Sub should be banned no doubt as even if I used the original labor sub, it is bound to get recycled soon. The good part I see here that the std reply has changed then the last time a month ago I had seen, it looks like now the OMBUDSMAN knows the issue and some more emails with a little different text here or there would make an impact. Unlike senators the OMBUDSMAN is sure to read our emails and act to best of the capabilites / authority he has as this is the only key task for that position to find out the problems in USCIS and report to top key officials
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neocor said:
WHY ?? Many people got the sub LC through their employers. It is 100% legal. If someone does not have a chance to get that, they should be happy for people who get that sub LC, not against that. They are in the same boat as you are. They might have a bit lucky to push the PD a bit earlier but that is all.
think the bad part of it is when these desi crooks sell it 1
once he ports after 180 days or looses the contract, billings, they sell it again. Sub against original labor may continue but against a copy should be banned as it promotes recycling endlessly by these desi consulting co. btw I am also on sub labor with PD before 2001
once he ports after 180 days or looses the contract, billings, they sell it again. Sub against original labor may continue but against a copy should be banned as it promotes recycling endlessly by these desi consulting co. btw I am also on sub labor with PD before 2001
newbies said:
nato said:once he ports after 180 days or looses the contract, billings, they sell it again. Sub against original labor may continue but against a copy should be banned as it promotes recycling endlessly by these desi consulting co. btw I am also on sub labor with PD before 2001
I agree with you on the copy LC part. My company just gave me a ORGINAL Sub EB2 Jan/2001 right before Thankgiving. I feel very very lucky since Dec bulletin allows me to concurrent I140/I485
Also the first thing I requested is to check if the LC is orginal or not and anyone ever used it. The orginal part I can see by my eyes but the "not anyone ever used it" I took the words from the attorney and HR.They paid everything for my family including EAD and AP. So, I don't see any things wrong in here to use subs LC. They also paid me more than the LC required (6 figure salary).
if you have seen the original, you are all set, nice holiday gift good luck
it couldn't have been used. when I was looking for a sub labor there were tons of people out there selling and that too they would want to use a photocopy but I found one decent company and saw the original LC which has a multicolor signature and my 140 got cleared in 3 weeks. didn't get the Jan 01 part though which country?
it couldn't have been used. when I was looking for a sub labor there were tons of people out there selling and that too they would want to use a photocopy but I found one decent company and saw the original LC which has a multicolor signature and my 140 got cleared in 3 weeks. didn't get the Jan 01 part though which country?
newbies said:I agree with you on the copy LC part. My company just gave me a ORGINAL Sub EB2 Jan/2001 right before Thankgiving. I feel very very lucky since Dec bulletin allows me to concurrent I140/I485
They paid everything for my family including EAD and AP. So, I don't see any things wrong in here to use subs LC. They also paid me more than the LC required (6 figure salary).
I think Labor substitution is totally unfair. This is a example of broken system of USCIS. How one can justify that person enter recently with substitute LC (May be purchasing or negotiating with company) has higher PD than person is waiting for few years?
This is totally unfair and must stop immidiately.
This is totally unfair and must stop immidiately.
newbies said:I agree with you on the copy LC part. My company just gave me a ORGINAL Sub EB2 Jan/2001 right before Thankgiving. I feel very very lucky since Dec bulletin allows me to concurrent I140/I485
They paid everything for my family including EAD and AP. So, I don't see any things wrong in here to use subs LC. They also paid me more than the LC required (6 figure salary).
I have question to every one who are supporting substitute LC (sub LC gives GC faster than other people waiting for years)
President's movement towards giving GC to illegal immigrant without addressing retrogration issue of legal immigrant is fair? (In this case illegal immigrants are going to get GC faster than Legal immigrants traped in retrogration !!!)
If this is unfair, the substitute LC is also unfair.
President's movement towards giving GC to illegal immigrant without addressing retrogration issue of legal immigrant is fair? (In this case illegal immigrants are going to get GC faster than Legal immigrants traped in retrogration !!!)
If this is unfair, the substitute LC is also unfair.
if you have the original LC then unused, if copy then used
easy way is to ask/insist to see the original LC if the employer has it it will be shown, else he will make all sort of excuses / pshyco things like there are 10 people in line, I am doing a big favor to you by giving you. see the case of csoft / NJ, hundreds of people are now getting their GC revoked
used ones can be a disaster and ruin a person thoroughly, you keep waiting and giving money to the employer through your billings or otherwise only to realize 2-3 years down the line that you can never get the GC
easy way is to ask/insist to see the original LC if the employer has it it will be shown, else he will make all sort of excuses / pshyco things like there are 10 people in line, I am doing a big favor to you by giving you. see the case of csoft / NJ, hundreds of people are now getting their GC revoked
used ones can be a disaster and ruin a person thoroughly, you keep waiting and giving money to the employer through your billings or otherwise only to realize 2-3 years down the line that you can never get the GC
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priyargc said:
Please remember that that person must qualify for the LC by the time of PD. It means he could wait the same time like you are or longer.
Even I am set with my GC due to PD is current now. I still fight for the retro and ask my employer to do the samething (note : my company has over 35K people and over 2K visa holder. Their voice could be very strong), but not for the Subs LC since many people could benefit it from my company.
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