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[palma_salone]

hello all,

i came to usa 2000 with f-1 visa .....stayed in school for 3 years .....dad passed away in home country....had to drop out of university for not having tuition money cuz didnt have any scholarships and not good credit to take out a loan ......became illegal ....didnt leave USA at all after that ......i started working ...worked different off campus jobs .....saved some money and i send those to my bro and sis back home ...still doing a off campus job illegally ..............my record is clean here ....

now me and my fiance who is USA citizen are planning to get married ..we love each other very much ........she knows everything about my situation ,she knows that i am illegal ......i am not using her to become citizen just to let u know .......... WIll i be able to become a citizen too ?????

thanks any info will be apprciated

 

[Addie_Goodvibes]

start here: http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-485.htm

First of all God bless and I am sorry to hear about your loss and situation>

Since you entered the country documented legally f-1 visa (do you have your I-94 or passport with last Visa Stamp?) You are simply Out of status & in a better situation than if you had entered illegally.
Until you get married you will NOT be able to Adjust status let alone citizenship. IF you try to leave you will not be able to get back in and may be banned for 5 years!

After your married your spouse and you will file I130, I-485 and all supporting documents. SEE ATTACHED

Most importantly when it comes time for your interview , (which likely will be a minimum of 6 months if you filed today) You will have to Prove to the USCIS Immigration oficer that your marriage is Legitimate and that you and your spouse have an established relationship, Thats why if you have only been in relationship with your fiance for a short period of time it will be difficult to prove legitimacy in your marriage.

IF you can provide enough support evidence to show your marraige is bona fida legit , You will be most likely be pardoned for being out of status and the fact you worked without proper Authorization ,

You have a lot of work ahead of you good Luck. use this forum for any questions you may have.

Don't forget to check the attached documents and the Link below.

Best of luck and God Bless!

 

[palma_salone]

thanks

Dear Addie_Goodvibes,

Thanks for taking time for ur reply ,really appreciate it.

Yes looks like there is lot of work to do for me .....but anyways now my question is suppose everything goes ok and they pardon me for being illegal ,whats gonna happen after that ?

Like when do i get work permit ?
or when do i become citizen ?
orWill I be able to travel abroad?

reason i am asking these questions ....cuz i havent seen my mom ,bro and sis since 2000 cuz never went back to my home country ,my younger brother is 16 years old ,i want him to come to usa and i would like to give him better education .Also i would like to travel to my home country to see my rest of my family members ?

Are all these possible ?

Thanks again for taking time ...means alot

take care now

 

[diavon]

palma

Did the USCIS never bother to track you down?

What is way to stay in this country illegally? How did you keep yourself hidden from the authorities? What about jobs? How did you get an off-campus job? Give me all the details? Someone I know is thinking of you doing what you are doing.

 

[palma_salone]

sorry diavon

i am not going to share what i have been through

thanks for asking

but i do wish whoever u know wants to do what i did good luck from all my heart

cheers

 

[diavon]

sorry diavon

i am not going to share what i have been through

thanks for asking

but i do wish whoever u know wants to do what i did good luck from all my heart

cheers

Wow! Given that you are here seeking help yourself, thats pretty inconsiderate.

Whatever, you pathetic parasite.

 

[Addie_Goodvibes]

Wow! Given that you are here seeking help yourself, thats pretty inconsiderate.

Whatever, you pathetic parasite.

Diavon-
lighten up maybe he doesn't want to get too personal about his situation, you dumped a lot of questions on him.

To answer your questions.. Of course they don't "track you down" if a person enters legally and simply overstay or are out of status the Govt. doesn't even know about 90 % of those cases and should not or will not waste valuable resources "tracking down " legal documented F-1 visitors who overstayed or are out of status.

The Govt. is/should be more concerned with those SCUM bag Parasites that cross the border illegally (commit crimes) then expect the Govt. to support their leach arses, through free public assistance, schools, and amnesty & expect to be pardoned when their first act on American Soil was a criminal act of defiance, those are the true PARASITES. When on this forum there are numerous individuals spending loads of money and waiting months even years to immigrate legally, That being said the USCIS / ICE doesn't even track these Illegal parasite scum bags down unless they are known gang members or known to be involved in violent crime.

And also tell that someone you know.. that THEY SHOULDN't do what you think Palma is doing. Palma's situation is unique and I am sure based on his post that he did not intend for this to be the way he immigrated.

That is ridiculous and the USCIS does do its best to determine those who intentionally try to enter the country on a NON immigrant visa to immigrate, if that intention is established it is grounds for dissapproval.

Before you call someone a parasite think about what you are saying and your intentions. Now BELT UP AND GO MUCK ABOUT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

 

[cherr1980]

Your work illegaly will be pardon but you must quit working illegaly (especially when you file for AOS) so you can begin straight things up. Your fiance is working? With your process of Adjustment of Status (AOS) you can apply at the same time for work permit. You will received authorization in 3 months or so after the filing. They will take your fingerprints and biometrics as well.

By the way, everything step by step. You FIRST become a US permanent resident and THEN you can talk about citizenship after certain years of being a US permanent resident. Those are two different process.

If you have been unlawfully present in the US for more than a year and you exit the US you will be ban to re-enter for 10 years even if you are married with a US citizen, so after you file all the paper work (remember to keep all your originals with you/visa/passport even they are expired, I-94/s all that) and if everything goes fine and you get approved then you become a LPR and can travel without problem.

Good luck,

 

[eddie_d]

Wow! Given that you are here seeking help yourself, thats pretty inconsiderate.

Whatever, you pathetic parasite.

WHOA!!! Slow down there tiger.

This is a forum on getting information about LEGALLY becoming a permanent resident / citizen. What you're asking for is advice on how to ILLEGALLY live and work in the US. See the difference?

 

[diavon]

WHOA!!! Slow down there tiger.

This is a forum on getting information about LEGALLY becoming a permanent resident / citizen. What you're asking for is advice on how to ILLEGALLY live and work in the US. See the difference?

I asked this question because he happens to be in that situation.

And I dont think my picking the wrong forum is the reason he didnt answer my question. If indeed there was such a forum, he probably still wouldnt have answered my question.

 

[diavon]

The Govt. is/should be more concerned with those SCUM bag Parasites that

I didnt mean parasite in that way. I have nothing against illegal immigration.

Parasite is one who benefits from a host body without giving anything back. This guy is seeking help from this forum but unwilling to give it. Thats what makes him a parasite.

And also tell that someone you know.. that THEY SHOULDN't do what you think Palma is doing. Palma's situation is unique and I am sure based on his post that he did not intend for this to be the way he immigrated.

How do you know my friend's situation isnt unique? How do you know what kind of a limbo he finds himself in? Perhaps his situation is worse?

I am not asking the name and address of palma's employer. Or his "underground" source where he might have got a fake ss card. Or the name of the russian mafia gang member with whom he send his money home. I was asking general survival tips.

Before you call someone a parasite think about what you are saying and your intentions. Now BELT UP AND GO MUCK ABOUT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

Yeah. I am not sure what this means.

In any case, what goes around, comes around. Someday he will need help, and someone else will withold it.

 

[Addie_Goodvibes]

As Eddie mentioned, it sounds as though you are seeking advice on how to get away with illegal immigration, And Palma is Not what most would consider Illegal, he entered on An F1 visa. based on his post he is Not trying to get away with something illegal.

What really upset me is you assumed he was being rude or selfish,& called him a parasite. You could have misinterpreted his reply.
I interpreted it as him not wanting to go into further detail about his situation, After all it sounds quite traumatic. I am sure after he learns what USCIS processes he experiences he will be more than willing to share general info pertaining to his case, as the rest of us on here do. Notice he stated he will not share what he had been through, thats not to say he won't offer help once he learns what to do to get his GC under his circumstances.

After all I do not even think he knows exactly what to have you tell your friend. It seems as though Palma is new to the process so his limited expereince with this would not be of much help to your case. You should direct your inquiry as a new thread to the rest of the forum.

I suggest you start another thread, describe your "friends" situation where they are what their immigration plans are ect.. and I am sure that some of the people on this forum including myself, will be more than willing to share their knowledge & experiences. I can assure you that majority on here are not seeking to "keep themself hidden from the authorities". or sneak around immigration laws. We are on here to seek advice on how to legally immigrate.

 

[diavon]

As Eddie mentioned, it sounds as though you are seeking advice on how to get away with illegal immigration, And Palma is Not what most would consider Illegal, he entered on An F1 visa. based on his post he is Not trying to get away with something illegal.

1. My friends situation is exactly like palma's. Exactly. My friend entered this country legally but due to unforseeable circumstances has to give up his legal status.
2. I think you are ones misinterpreting my words. Nowhere in my initial post did I mention that I am looking for help on illegal immigration. I cannot answer for your assumptions. Just read what I wrote.
3. Palma is infact illegal in this country. And he would be deported if caught by immigration officials before his marriage to his fiance. It doesnt at this stage matter whether he entered the country legally. The only time this fact becomes relevant is when he marries his USC fiance. At present he is illegal.
4. While this is a collateral matter, I should point out that the prejudice in your posts is blatantly clear. Illelgal immigrants are not just the ones that come "across the border." There are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who came legally but overstayed. And those coming across the border contribute just as much to America as those who stay back illegally. There are bad apples in all boxes. A good number of the 911 terrorists were like palma - students who entered legally but overstayed.

What really upset me is you assumed he was being rude or selfish,& called him a parasite. You could have misinterpreted his reply.

1. Why are you upset? I didnt call you anything?
2. He is infact being selfish. A parasite.

I interpreted it as him not wanting to go into further detail about his situation, After all it sounds quite traumatic.

That is absurd. Its like me telling someone, "I cannot help with your I-751 issue because I went through a bad divorce." Can you not see that the two issues are severable?

I dont want to know the personal details of his life. I just wanted to know, how he survived.

I am sure after he learns what USCIS processes he experiences he will be more than willing to share general info pertaining to his case, as the rest of us on here do. Notice he stated he will not share what he had been through, thats not to say he won't offer help once he learns what to do to get his GC under his circumstances.

You really need a lesson in reading comprehension. I didnt want to know about the process of getting a GC. I know that very well. I have been through it personally and have taken a 3 credit course on immigration law as well. I want to know what I said I want to know - about suriving in this country as an illegal alien. Go re-read my post.

The ironic thing about this all this is that palma actually clearly undertood what I was asking and you bufoons didnt.

 

[eddie_d]

Diavon.

C H I L L !!!

First of all it's no great mystery how people live here illegally. They get phony documents or they work under the table for employers who don't even want to pretend they are hiring someone legally (as opposed to those that pretend the blatantly obvious fake documents are real). Someone who has taken a whopping 3 credits should be able to figure that out on your own.

And no need to bring 9/11 into this discussion - or any discussion in this forum. It is completely irrelevant and does nothing to advance your argument other than stir up emotions.

 

[karissa2000]

Well Diavon since you want to know how it is that illegals survive in this country let me give you an example. There are many businesses that hire people off the books. While in school you meet individuals who can tell you about jobs and places that are willing to hire. In addition if you have a social (obtained through attending school)you can open bank accounts and even obtain credit cards Sometimes situations arise where your best option is to remain in the country illegally or out of status and you do what you can to survive. Sometimes you have other family members who are in the country legally who will assist you with room and board and help out with financial needs. As mentioned above the immigration is not hunting for every indivual that has overstayed and has violated theri status. I even know indivuals who while on their student visa's obtained driver's licenses and continue to drive although they are no longer in status, but the license is still valid.

Please dont get me wrong by thinking that I am encouraging anyone to live in the US illegally and break any laws. I am simply trying to provide an understanding to Diavon on how it is possible for one to survive in US illegally as he probably has no idea, maybe because of the state he lives in.

 

[Addie_Goodvibes]

Dear Addie_Goodvibes,
they pardon me for being illegal ,whats gonna happen after that ?

When you get approved for your AOS petition you are pardoned, it is not a formal pardon, it is just overlooked as long as you filed and are approved for your AOS I-485. You fille all the forms as i showed you in my previous attachment ( I485, I765, I130, I-131) and then in aprox 90-120 days you will receive your EAD Employemtn Authorization and shortly there after your Intevriew will be scheduled and if all goes well you will be given Temporray Residancy GC, if you go to the interview & are approved for AOS GC before you receive your EAD, you wont even need your EAD to work. Your GC will be enough.

Like when do i get work permit ?

You file I765 EAD (Employment Authorization Document ) with your I-485 package the EAD process takes aprox. 90 days. About 30 days from filing all your forms you will be sent to get your Biometrics (fingerprints for EAD & FBI check) after that it takes about 45-60 days to get your EAD and your interview comes shortly after possibly before.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-485.htm
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-765.htm

Will I be able to travel abroad?

If you plan on travel while you are waiting for your petition to be Processed & Approved , you should file Form I-131

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-131.htm

Do NOT ATTEMPT TO LEAVE Until you have approval from filing I-131 or until you have your GC,



Everything you need can be found at the USCIS web page and in the attached document I sent before.

 

[palma_salone]

great

hey all

i just checked this thread ...boy i am reallly surprised what you all wrote ....i dun care if anyone calls me parasite ....dun worry diavon ...i am not mad or anything .i guess u r just being urself and i respect that ...and thanks eddie and addie for ur support

anyways ...the reason i didnt wanna share anything cuz my story is too long and thought no one would care to sit and read a big ass thread ....

But if it makes anyone feel satisfied to know that i dun use fake docs to work or anything ...since i entered this country legally i have my own SSN # and also valid driver license ...and keep ing my license was kinda interesting ....cuz i had the state DL before where i am living ...but since they ask for i-20 to renew my license ...i couldnt renew my license ...but before it expired i was visiting my neighbore state to be with my friends and the told me i can get a DL of that state just by having a other state's VALID DL.....and they wil put 5 years on my DL .......i took a shot ....and now i have that other states DL which is good till 2010.......cops see my car all the time ....but never bothered me .....i also filed taxes and i dun owe IRS anything and i got refund everytime i filed

I was in the INS sevis database too and i was legal till they stopped calling students every year to register ...

the way i am living now u wouldnt be able to tell that i am illegal cuz for some reason i think i am in some kinda loophole ...cuz couple weeks ago i got pulled over for a busted headlight ....and i got off with a warning......that kinda makes me feel that INS is still not after me ......also i have my own bank account ,credit card ,apartment lease ,cell phone,utlitlity all under my name .......so it really shouldnt be that hard for INS to catch me .......but i am not worried .....if i get caught whats the worse thing could happen .....i will just get deoprted right?.....but my fiance told me she would stick up for me if i get deported .....we have going over a year now and stilll we r not married cuz i didnt put her on any pressure ......my couple other international friends in other states used girls to get work permiit and become citizen WHICH i truely beleive is wrong .......

you guys dun know how many time i think just to leave everything and me and my fiance move to my home country cuz i havent seen my family for a long time ,but only thing stops me is the job and money ....cuz i wont be making that much money back home what i am making now ...and yes my fiance works tooo ...infact she used to work at the same place where i work now .....


anyways i think i have written some what clearly to give u a picture of my situation here ......but beleive me now i have other priorities ....becoming legal by gettting married to my finace is not one of them ...thast why i didnt bother writing any stories of mine ...i just wanted to know if i still have a chance to become legal here thast all

anyways .....god bless u all ...and take care

cheers

 

[eddie_d]

I wouldn't worry about getting busted by the USCIS (and it is USCIS, why do people still call it INS 5 years after the name change???). Most cities have explicit rules that say police officers can't check immigration status for minor offences like traffic violations. Unless you hold up a liqour store or something you have nothing to worry about. As for deportation, there are 15 million illegals and 1000 USCIS interior enforcement agents for the whole country. Better oddds in winning the lotto than getting caught and deported.

 

[diavon]

You can be stopped anytime there is "probable cause." That is the legal standard. Which in cases of immigration offenses is hard to develop. There usually is no probable cause to check the immigration documents of a guy walking on the street.

But I should point out that border patrol checkpoints are constitutional. So they can pretty much set up shop in the middle of a highway and check for immigration documents.

This has happend to me thrice. Twice outside of El Paso, TX and once outside of San Diego, CA. So I presume it is more of risk in border states. And during one of those times, I didnt have my Green Card on my person (a federal offense). The guy let me go, but it was a terrifying 3 minutes!

And that was really the reason I was asking the questions I was asking. So thanks for responding finally.