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I need good legal excuse for not doing GC for in-laws.

They are kind of pushing me for applying GC for them. I'm not yet ready to have them stay here with us and interferring in our lives.

My wife is not earning so everything will be on my W2, affidavit of support etc.

Is there good legal excuse I can give them something like -> no. of dependents more than my salary??

Just for background, I have 4 dependent including myself. Salary is ~100K and did already file GC for mother and planning to file for father next year.
 
With your salary, will you be able to support your wife's parents AND your parents? Keep in mind that medical expenses are very high in the US and it is next to impossible to get insurance for ageing parents who are also not eligible for medicare for 5+ years after getting green card. Even after 5+ years, premium for medicare is several hundred dollars per person. What happens if you lose your job or are unable to work for some other reason? And do you really want 2 sets of in-laws living with you?

You should have an honest conversation with your wife.
 
The law doesn't allow you to file for your in-laws.

Your wife can file for them if she's a USC, but you can't because they're not your parents.
 
Jackolantern said:
The law doesn't allow you to file for your in-laws.

Your wife can file for them if she's a USC, but you can't because they're not your parents.
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Yes, me and my wife both are USC. I understand she has to file I-130 for them but I have to do affidavit of support and all that; since she is not working.

Regarding support, her parents wants to live with their son who is on study visa and thinking of opening business here.

I don't want to get into their business but they want me to sponsor them since wife is not earning.

Thanks for help,
 
US of A said:
I need good legal excuse for not doing GC for in-laws.

They are kind of pushing me for applying GC for them. I'm not yet ready to have them stay here with us and interferring in our lives.

My wife is not earning so everything will be on my W2, affidavit of support etc.

Is there good legal excuse I can give them something like -> no. of dependents more than my salary??

Just for background, I have 4 dependent including myself. Salary is ~100K and did already file GC for mother and planning to file for father next year.
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Unfortunately you make enough such that there is no excuse. You are a married man, you need to be able to impress upon your wife your concerns. Get her to understand your concern. The marriage comes before the in-laws, she should know that.
 
ananga73 said:
Unfortunately you make enough such that there is no excuse. You are a married man, you need to be able to impress upon your wife your concerns. Get her to understand your concern. The marriage comes before the in-laws, she should know that.
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Yup the only way to solve your problem is to talk to your wife plus its not a good idea for elderly people to immigrate at their age because of possible health risks. Have they been here before? They might not even like it. if you refuse to sponsor them they'll find somebody else. Your wife and you should come up with a peaceful excuse.
 
The support obligation is significant. If you do not want to file, don't. It exists even after a divorce. I suspect that you either filed for your wife's GC or she was a derivative on yours. I also suspect that this was an arranged marriage. If so, it was likely for the GC you could provide. Be smart; use your better judgment and do not be forced into anything you do not want to do. It may cost you your marriage especially since you have sponsored your own parents if they are living in your and her home and you are funding them since you are spending marital assets. Your wife needs to get a job if she wants to sponsor her parents. Women in the US have many opportunities. Women who want something get off their sofas and get a J-O-B. As a woman, I consider her request unreasonable unless she gets out and contributes to the household income. Marriage is a partnership; both need to contribute by doing household chores and contributing financially. The financial contribution may not be equal, but I bet if she had been contributing financially all these years that you would feel better about supporting/sponsoring them.

Realistically, an income of $100,000 cannot support 6 adults and any children you have at a reasonable level of comfort. Health insurance for older, non-working parents is extremely expensive. Any and all of them less than retirement age should have a job of some kind and be contributing to the household expenses. If they are of age to work and won't, that is even more of a reason to leave (to send) any and all of them back in their home country. The US taxpayers do not want to be supporting all of them and your family after you die from overwork trying to support everyone. You deserve NOT to have to do this to yourself due to unrealistic expectations.
 
I agree with most of what you wrote. However conjecturing the marriage was mainly for his GC is not required. Also, whether she works or not is an issue for the partners to decide. It works for some people. Stay at home moms also contribute significant intangibles which when quantified can be a lot of $$$.

Bottom line, I agree with most of your stuff. Original Poster is the breadwinner, he needs to stand up and make his position known in this partnership without resorting to convenient financial excuses.

Concerned4us said:
The support obligation is significant. If you do not want to file, don't. It exists even after a divorce. I suspect that you either filed for your wife's GC or she was a derivative on yours. I also suspect that this was an arranged marriage. If so, it was likely for the GC you could provide. Be smart; use your better judgment and do not be forced into anything you do not want to do. It may cost you your marriage especially since you have sponsored your own parents if they are living in your and her home and you are funding them since you are spending marital assets. Your wife needs to get a job if she wants to sponsor her parents. Women in the US have many opportunities. Women who want something get off their sofas and get a J-O-B. As a woman, I consider her request unreasonable unless she gets out and contributes to the household income. Marriage is a partnership; both need to contribute by doing household chores and contributing financially. The financial contribution may not be equal, but I bet if she had been contributing financially all these years that you would feel better about supporting/sponsoring them.

Realistically, an income of $100,000 cannot support 6 adults and any children you have at a reasonable level of comfort. Health insurance for older, non-working parents is extremely expensive. Any and all of them less than retirement age should have a job of some kind and be contributing to the household expenses. If they are of age to work and won't, that is even more of a reason to leave (to send) any and all of them back in their home country. The US taxpayers do not want to be supporting all of them and your family after you die from overwork trying to support everyone. You deserve NOT to have to do this to yourself due to unrealistic expectations.
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I agree with all of you.

Here is the thing, they will not be financial burden on me. They are paying for all the forms fees etc. and everything.

Only reason they want to get GC to open business in their name (with valid SSN and legal PR) and son will run it after completing college. They will not be living with us also.

Since me and wife are USC, they are kind of know the process. Problem is wife is not working and I will be primary sponsor of I-864, which I don't want to become.

so.....?
 
US of A said:
I agree with all of you.

Here is the thing, they will not be financial burden on me. They are paying for all the forms fees etc. and everything.

Only reason they want to get GC to open business in their name (with valid SSN and legal PR) and son will run it after completing college. They will not be living with us also.

Since me and wife are USC, they are kind of know the process. Problem is wife is not working and I will be primary sponsor of I-864, which I don't want to become.

so.....?
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It is best if you and your wife discuss it. I-864 is an legally binding contract and the government can come after you if they use government benefits that they were not eligible for.

Some questions to consider:

Do they have significant financial assets that can be transferred into US?

Are they business savvy people? How will they pay for their living expenses while their business is being set up?

How will they pay for their medical insurance?
 
nkm-oct23 said:
It is best if you and your wife discuss it. I-864 is an legally binding contract and the government can come after you if they use government benefits that they were not eligible for.

Some questions to consider:

Do they have significant financial assets that can be transferred into US?

Are they business savvy people? How will they pay for their living expenses while their business is being set up?

How will they pay for their medical insurance?
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yes, they will bring money from overseas and will pay their expenses themselves including medical insurance.
 
US of A said:
yes, they will bring money from overseas and will pay their expenses themselves including medical insurance.
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I don't really see your problem then. It appears to me you have minimal financial exposure/risk. Your reasons are not financial, its your wanting independence from in-laws getting into your business and/or wanting to take care of your parents first.

Just man up and explain to the wife and stop fishing for excuses. A marriage is a union where theoretically you become one. If you're filing for your parents, why should your wife also not have her parents enjoy that benefit?
 
If they have significant assets and want to open a business, they should look at an investor visa. They will have a hard time hiring son to run the family business if he does not have a GC in hand as there are strict requirements on family owned entities sponsoring H1Bs and GC for employees who are family members. He would likely have an easier time if he used the L1 route for a multinational company.

Most business startups in the US fail. It is quite possible that they lose their entire investment, and he becomes responsible for them.

Everything OP adds indicates that there is something not "right" with this arrangement. Also, in the US a stay at home woman who is making demands on the finances of the family without making a contribution can best be described as a "gold-digger". If she were/had been making a contribution to the financial health of the family, it would be different. She appears to have the "princess" mentality - take care of me and my family too.

In the US, a woman had better well be able to support herself - and since she will be a sponsor of her parents financially as well, she better be prepared for the worst.
 
US of A said:
I don't want to get into their business but they want me to sponsor them since wife is not earning.
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From what you've described, apparently they have enough assets so that you don't need to provide any financial sponsorship at all.

Your wife would file for them, leaving your name totally out of the picture financially, and they would provide evidence of having enough assets (approx. $116K).
 
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nkm-oct23 said:
It is best if you and your wife discuss it. I-864 is an legally binding contract and the government can come after you if they use government benefits that they were not eligible for.
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The government can come after the sponsor even for benefits the immigrant relatives were actually eligible for.
 
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