N400, decision cannot be made

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Interviewed and password test on May 6th, 2008. But the officer could not make decision because he needed more evidence of marrage status.

I sent out all documents on the second day, and they received on May 8th.

Anyone has similar experience? How long I have to wait?

Thank you for your help in advanced
 
1. Was your N-400 based on marriage (3 years marriage based filing)?
2. What additional proof was asked?

Since they have received your doc, hopefully you should hear back soon, good luck.
 
My N-400 is not based on marriage

but, the IO asks me provide them.
1.Marriage ceriticate
2.Copy of rent agreement or deed
3.Copies of health and car insurance
4.Copy of first two pages of income tax return
5.Copies of W-2s for you and your spouse
6.Vehicle regiestration.
7.Copy of ID for both
8.Copies of financials statements
9.Current payroll for both
10.Any other proof showing that you have live together as husband and wife.
 
I wish they would have asked you about all of these before the interview so you knew that you case is on track. If you have sent them everything my guess is that you case is in a good position but they have not given you an oath date.
That is why some people including me are worry too much for what to take to their interview.

I hope you will get something soon.
 
I don't think that my case is based on marrige, because we married before we applied the green card, and I followed up to join my spouse's green card application. I should be based on resident. I got green card for five years alreday. That was the reason I didn't bring any document of marriage when I went to the interview.
 
Get some sleep

I wish they would have asked you about all of these before the interview so you knew that you case is on track. If you have sent them everything my guess is that you case is in a good position but they have not given you an oath date.
That is why some people including me are worry too much for what to take to their interview.

I hope you will get something soon.

Hey Nimche,

I just realized that you have your interview tomorrow morning. I have a good feeling that it will be just a piece of cake. Get some good night sleep and don't worry about too much. Trust me tomorrow you will thank God and it will all be over.
Good luck and waiting to hear good news from you tomorrow.
Later.
 
I don't think that my case is based on marrige, because we married before we applied the green card, and I followed up to join my spouse's green card application. I should be based on resident. I got green card for five years alreday. That was the reason I didn't bring any document of marriage when I went to the interview.

In that case this is really wierd. Was the IO drunk? I hope they won't ask me anything like that.
 
Hey Nimche,

I just realized that you have your interview tomorrow morning. I have a good feeling that it will be just a piece of cake. Get some good night sleep and don't worry about too much. Trust me tomorrow you will thank God and it will all be over.
Good luck and waiting to hear good news from you tomorrow.
Later.

Thank you,
But no matter what happen tomorrow I can not stop being happy. I just want to get over with.
 
Thank you,
But no matter what happen tomorrow I can not stop being happy. I just want to get over with.

There you go. I like your attitude. Just be yourself tomorrow. Make sure you get lot of rest tonight. Just quickly go over your N-400 form before the interview tomorrow morning, just a quick glance (eye ball as they say). No big deal, you really don't have to memorize your application. The officer will go over with you to verify.
Have a good night pal.
 
but, the IO asks me provide them.
1.Marriage ceriticate
2.Copy of rent agreement or deed
3.Copies of health and car insurance
4.Copy of first two pages of income tax return
5.Copies of W-2s for you and your spouse
6.Vehicle regiestration.
7.Copy of ID for both
8.Copies of financials statements
9.Current payroll for both
10.Any other proof showing that you have live together as husband and wife.

This is so confusing.

Why this list for 5-year based N-400?

This seems like a marriage based N-400 list...I think the IO has mixed it up...is this the lack of training in bringing lot of "new IOs" to clear the backlog?

Waitfornews,
What is your District office (city of interview)?
 
I don't think that my case is based on marrige, because we married before we applied the green card, and I followed up to join my spouse's green card application. I should be based on resident. I got green card for five years alreday. That was the reason I didn't bring any document of marriage when I went to the interview.

Base on information above marriage before your Wife GC:
The question is your wife GC based on Family (by parents no brother or sister) or Employment?

If it is based on Employment or family (brother/sister) no issue here, but on Family (parents) it will be an issue, parents of your wife are US Citizen or GC holder at the time of your wife getting GC? or by answer this question are you married after one of the parents of your wife become US Citizen? if yes, NO Issue here you will be fine, but if NO it will be a problem.
 
JohnBen,
Can you clarify? Why is it any issue how they got the GC, when they are applying 5 years after the GC for N-400?
 
JohnBen,
Can you clarify? Why is it any issue how they got the GC, when they are applying 5 years after the GC for N-400?

Visit this link:
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Chapter 74 Examination of Form N-400.
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=d064ed4a5546d449b05096a11bf93 7a2

Quote from chapter 74:..............

C) Immigration Status . In addition to the date on which the applicant acquired permanent residence, your file review should determine the basis upon which such status was gained. In reviewing this section of the application and questioning the applicant about his or her immigration status, you may determine that the applicant was not entitled to permanent resident status at the time he or she immigrated or adjusted status. If the applicant unlawfully acquired LPR status via an immigrant visa you can place the applicant in remov al proceedings. If the applicant unlawfully adjusted status in the United States and has been a LPR for less than five years, you can rescind his/her LPR status under section 246 of the Act (see chapter 26 of this field manual). If the applicant unlawfully adjusted status in the United States and has been a permanent resident for more than five years, a five-year statute of limitations prevents you from rescinding the LPR status under section 246. However, you can still deny the naturalization application under section 318 if the applicant did not lawfully acquire permanent resident status. You should also speak to your supervisor about placing the applicant in removal proceedings. [See sections 212 , 237 , 238 , 239 , and 240 of the Act and 8 CFR 239 and 240 .]



The type of questions you ask the applicant to determine whether the applicant acquired LPR status lawfully, depends on how the applicant obtained LPR status. The following are typical examples of how an applicant may have obtained LPR status.



• Through An Employment Based Petition – An applicant obtained permanent residence through employment with a U. S. company. You should review the employment history section of the N-400 application to ensure that the I-140 petitioning employer is listed. If the petitioning employer is not listed, you should prepare questions to address this issue. Such questions might include:



– Did you ever work for the petitioner?

– How long did you work for the petitioner?

– In what capacity did you work for the petitioner?

– Why did you leave the position?

– What were you paid?

– Where did you work for the petitioner (location)?

– Where did you go or work after you left your job with the petitioner or instead of working for the petitioner?

– When did you first learn that there would not be a long-term position for you?



You should also determine whether the applicant met all of the eligibility requirements of the employment classification under which he/she was granted status. For example, did the applicant have the necessary training or experience that the labor certification required for that classification? The labor certification, which seeks to classify the applicant’s occupation as a shortage occupation, must be filed with the U. S. Department of Labor for most employment-based immigrant petitions. [See 8 CFR 204.5 . and Chapter 22 of this manual.]



• Through Marriage – In cases where the applicant obtained status through marriage you would review the marital history section of the N-400, the list of addresses, and children to determine whether the applicant had a qualifying relationship at the time of immigration or adjustment and, for section 319 applicants, is living in marital union with the petitioner.



If the applicant acquired status through marriage and he/she is now divorced from the U. S. citizen or resident alien spouse, you must develop questions to address this issue. You should ask these applicants to provide a copy of their divorce decrees, and findings of fact, conclusions of law, bill of complaint, petition for dissolution of marriage, or separation agreement to explain when the parties to a divorce were separated. These documents must be reviewed carefully, especially for those applicants who were granted conditional permanent residence, and claimed to be residing with the United States citizen or resident alien spouse when the Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, Form I-751 was filed, yet they were separated at the time. These applicants were classified as conditional permanent residents because they had less than two years of marriage to their spouse at the time they were granted resident alien status. [See 8 CFR 319 , 216.1 , 216.2 . ]



• Through a Relative: Unmarried Sons or Daughters – U.S. citizens or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence may file a petition on behalf of an unmarried son/daughter. The son or daughter must be unmarried at the time the I-130 is filed and at the time he/she is granted LPR status. You should review the marital history section of the application very carefully in these cases. If the applicant lists a spouse on the application, you should develop questions to determine when the marriage took place, and request a copy of the marriage certificate fo r review. See 8 CFR 204.2(d) and sections 203(a)(1) and 203(a)(2) of the Act.



If there is evidence that the applicant was married at the time he or she acquired permanent residence, you should discuss the matter with your supervisor and consider institution of removal or rescission proceedings.

More information go to FAQ: http://immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=213961&page=2
 
Interviewed and password test on May 6th, 2008. But the officer could not make decision because he needed more evidence of marrage status.

I sent out all documents on the second day, and they received on May 8th.

Anyone has similar experience? How long I have to wait?

Thank you for your help in advanced

I am in the same boat. Interview was on May15th, 2008. Cannot make a decision because needed more info about travel (passport stamps, travel proof, tax records, etc).

I have send the information requested with 3 days (they had a 30day deadline in the letter)

Does anyone know how long it takes for IO to review this information and make a decision.

How soon can we call them or request InfoPass appointment?

Thanks
 
aasamy2000,
1. Which district office (city) did you interview at?
2. Did you have long trips outside US or many trips? Was travel a concern for proving physical residency for you?

Half the time, they dont stamp passports, so passport stamp will be missing, you may need other evidence like boarding pass of flights or tickets etc.
 
JohnBen,
Can you clarify? Why is it any issue how they got the GC, when they are applying 5 years after the GC for N-400?
They are going back in time to challenge the validity of the GC itself. Either the IO is an idiot, or they saw something that smells like a fake marriage.
 
aasamy2000,
1. Which district office (city) did you interview at?
2. Did you have long trips outside US or many trips? Was travel a concern for proving physical residency for you?

Half the time, they dont stamp passports, so passport stamp will be missing, you may need other evidence like boarding pass of flights or tickets etc.

1. San Francisco DO
2. Yes were a lot of trips. There was a total of 13 trips for 891 days. It is pretty close to the magic no of 900 or 912 or 913 (does anyone know what this nos is). None of the trips were more than six months.

All the trips to Canada did not have passport stamps. Luckily I have saved tickets and boarding passes for most of the trips. Even international trips don't have exit stamps on passport. I had to use a combination of passport stamps, tickets/boarding pass, etc to come up with the dates for the trips.

My question is more on the lines of what happens next. How soon do they review the case again. When can we take InfoPass, etc.

Thanks
 
I was also interviewed at San Francisco.
I called 1-800 yesterday and ask how hong I have to wait for answer, a officer said they will give me answer in sixty days. So I will infopass after two weeks if I still not get the answer.
 
1. San Francisco DO
2. Yes were a lot of trips. There was a total of 13 trips for 891 days. It is pretty close to the magic no of 900 or 912 or 913 (does anyone know what this nos is). None of the trips were more than six months.

All the trips to Canada did not have passport stamps. Luckily I have saved tickets and boarding passes for most of the trips. Even international trips don't have exit stamps on passport. I had to use a combination of passport stamps, tickets/boarding pass, etc to come up with the dates for the trips.

My question is more on the lines of what happens next. How soon do they review the case again. When can we take InfoPass, etc.

Thanks

aasamy2000,

We are at the same DO, keep in touch!
I think that will be better., you take infoPass over 45 days after they got the documents you sent.
 
I don't think that my case is based on marrige, because we married before we applied the green card, and I followed up to join my spouse's green card application. I should be based on resident. I got green card for five years alreday. That was the reason I didn't bring any document of marriage when I went to the interview.

So you received derivative status 5 years ago from wife. Perhaps IO didn't have a copy of your marriage certificate in your case file which caused IO to question marriage status at the time ?
I just looked at my original I-485 case file which contained a copy of marriage certificate, but my wife's original I-485 did not have a copy of marriage certificate. I was the derivative recipient at the time.
It could be that you originally provided the marriage certificate when your wife applied for GC, but USCIS didn't include a copy of it in your case file thereby making the IO request it at interview.
 
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