My son's name issue for US passport?

[emno]

Hi,

This is a bit early for me to talk about this but I thought to get views on this.

Suitation:

1. My son's (13 years) passport had his last name missing and only had first name and middle name together.

2. 1st time US visa had firstname and middle name together as LAST NAME and FNU as first name.

3. I included his last name in my hoem country's passport (he has GC now) and first name, middle name and last name are all in right place. I have to give advts. in newspapers but there is no court documentation and my country's passport agency considered it as name change request.

4. His GC has corrcet names (middle name has just first character).

to make ths suitation more complex, please read on,

5. His foreign (my country) birth certificate has his first name and last name (middle name is missing). When we got his birth certificate, they gave us without his name and then my friend wrote his name.

Now when I go for his US passport after I get mu US citizenship (already applied, sent N-400 for self and wife), do the post office will not object on his birth certificate name (middle name missing)? or ask for name change document ?
Shoudl I try to change his name here. But it is alraedy changed as it is correct in his current passport(my country) and on his GC.
Thanks for taking time to read this.

 

[Jackolantern]

Try to get an updated birth certificate from his birth country. And don't show his non-US passport when applying for his US passport.

If you can't get an updated birth certificate, the discrepancy with GC name vs. birth certificate name could cause a problem, but don't stress yourself over it. Nobody is going to get deported or lose citizenship over it. You are stressing yourself out way too much over this process. Worst case is that you would do a name change process in the US to officially make his name be what you want it to be, then go back and apply for his passport.

 

[emno]

thanks Jackolantern.
You are right, I am kind of over stressed.
His current Non-US passport has his correct name. The last name was missing only in the first passport when he came to US first time and then I got it corrected in his GC. While getting his GC, I used the same birth certicate(with missing middle name). It is if the postoffice person check names very closely, then it may be a red flag.

Thanks again

 

[Jackolantern]

Yes, I understand his non-US passport has all his names, but as he will be a US citizen when you naturalize, you should not present his non-US passport when applying for his US passport. You would show his birth certificate and GC. If they object because of the discrepancy between birth certificate and GC, you'll have to get an updated birth certificate or a legal name change document. It may or may not be a problem; deal with it when the time comes. Although you may want to try to get the updated birth certificate from now so you can have it in your possession ahead of time.

 

[faysal]

thanks Jackolantern.
You are right, I am kind of over stressed.
His current Non-US passport has his correct name. The last name was missing only in the first passport when he came to US first time and then I got it corrected in his GC. While getting his GC, I used the same birth certicate(with missing middle name). It is if the postoffice person check names very closely, then it may be a red flag.

Thanks again

When applying for his passpost, isn't it enough his greencard and you naturalization certificate...I am not sure,
but I don't think that they you will need his passport or birth certificate....

 

[emno]

Thanks Jackolantern and faysal
Another good twist. I was looking the papers at home and I found another Birth Certificate withour name. I got the second birth certificate quite some time back as I knew that the one I had was having name issue but was not sure what name it had. Now I found that it does not have any names. In my country they issue birth certificate without name as they dont have the name of th kid at the time of birth. Last one also one of my friend wrote his name and he did not write it fully (missed the middle name)

Now should I write his complete name on the blank nameed certificate and present that one?

Even i get another certificate they will issue it with blank name. The other small issue is thet it have my initials (1st letter of first naem . 1st letter of middle name . and last name. )and last nane but my wife's full name is there.

 

[nkm-oct23]

If the child is claiming derivative citizenship thru parents, then an original birth certificate showing naturalized parents names is required. One can also try to use a certificate from Indian consulate (It does not work for USCIS but might work for Dept of State)

 

[Jackolantern]

In my country they issue birth certificate without name as they dont have the name of th kid at the time of birth.

Even if it is a reissued certificate long after birth, they still give it with a blank name for the child?

 

[emno]

Even if it is a reissued certificate long after birth, they still give it with a blank name for the child?

Yes as they never updated the name in their system. It is manual system. They m aintain physical registers.
Should I just write teh compelete name in the birth certificate now?

If the child is claiming derivative citizenship thru parents, then an original birth certificate showing naturalized parents names is required. One can also try to use a certificate from Indian consulate (It does not work for USCIS but might work for Dept of State)

It is my First letter of First Name . 1st letter of middle name . and last name. Also it has my wife's compelete name. Yes it is derivative citizenship thru mr.

 

[Jackolantern]

Yes as they never updated the name in their system. It is manual system. They m aintain physical registers.

It's not possible to get them to update their files with his full name?

Should I just write teh compelete name in the birth certificate now?

If everything else on the certificate is printed, it may look suspicious to see the name handwritten. And if other parts are handwritten, it may look suspicious to see the name in different handwriting or different-looking new ink.

 

[emno]

It is not printed. It is hand written. You are right, it may look different. I will try again with my friend to get the system updated but it is very slow there. Something may not even be possible. But teh current birth certificate with missing middle name, my friend wrote his name with different ink and different hand writting and it was OK for USICS for his GC.

thank you so very much.

 

[Jackolantern]

It is not printed. It is hand written. You are right, it may look different. I will try again with my friend to get the system updated but it is very slow there.

It might be slow, but it will be a few months before you naturalize, so it's not like you need the certificate tomorrow.

But teh current birth certificate with missing middle name, my friend wrote his name with different ink and different hand writting and it was OK for USICS for his GC.

Passports run through the Department of State and they may be more picky than USCIS. Especially for a first-time passport with a non-US birth certificate.

 

[emno]

Thanks Jackolantern

I will try to get one from India. But again another problem, they need teh Birth Certificate issued withing 1 year of birth. Normally when I get birth certificate from my country, they write teh issue date and neither they have the SEAL similar to the notorized. They have simple rubber seals.
I also have to try to get my full name on his birth certificarte ( not sure if I wil be successful in this regards).

There are so many so many namse related issues, I am having.

What can eb the wrost case suitation: Thay may issue passport with missing middle name or they may just refuse as the birth certificate and GC names does not match and father name is not full name as in his naturalizion certificate?