My Interview Experience

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Triple Citizen said:
You have every right to express your opinion. Even if it does not agree with the others. My only point is, do it in a civil manner and not express it as a personal attack. For example, instead of using the term "Fake Asylee" you could have very politely expressed your opinion that you think Devastation is simply using the asylum route to stay in the US after his other avenues to get a green card failed.
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Uncle Joe – I don’t know how long you been in this country but we all went through a similar immigration path. Difficult and challenging one – both financially and emotionally. All we need to be doing here is sharing our experiences and taking information as related to our case from other’s experiences hoping that we mutually benefit.
I have seen most of your postings in the variety of other forums and honestly your choice of words are very colloquial to say the least. I am not judging you. But this might be the only way you know how to express your self. But in a public forum like this one , the least we could do is be respectful and be truthful to the people we are addressing at the same time. I think in my opinion you are half way there.

Triple Citizen said:
For the record, I have read all 40 odd posts of the OP. I agree, there are a lot of holes in his story and indeed his comments have changed over time. Given his previous attempts to legalise himself, I personally think this is indeed a last ditch effort to stay in the US. Now, having said that, I do not know the entire truth. What COP is he from? How has the COP's political situation changed during the last 4 years? So on and so forth. Thus I will leave it to the good offices of USCIS to make that call.If he truly deserves asylum, I really wish he gets it. If he is indeed not worthy, it will only be fair that he does not get it.
I hope I made sense.
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I agree Triple citizen. I think you nailed it. I have seen his postings too and I couldn’t be able to follow or connect the dots as well.
 
Uncle Joe
Your lack of civility is an insult to the whole forum community. Please, watch your language. Also, let the USCIS make the determination on Devastation's eligibility for asylum - do not try to pretend to be a volunteer asylum officer.
 
Greentocitizen said:
Uncle Joe – I don’t know how long you been in this country but we all went through a similar immigration path. Difficult and challenging one – both financially and emotionally. All we need to be doing here is sharing our experiences and taking information as related to our case from other’s experiences hoping that we mutually benefit.
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Ive been long enough in this country I went trough asylum interview as well, and because of people who faking asylum case, USCIS (BCIS, INS) suspecting everybody and they trying to make your life harder. Im on the side with people who really need it. I will always give advice or share my personal experience.
Right now we helping person who is illegally in this country. We helping him to legalize, get immigration benefit. He had opportunity to apply for asylum few years ago, but he didn't. Because of him and people like him USCIS will be more aggressive in the matter of granting asylum. And somebody's life will be depend on it, literally. Tomorrow somebody will be rejected and deported to his COP. In the past people were deported and executed or went missing in their native countries. Because Asylum officer didn't believe them, because bunch of people claiming asylum just to get legalize. They don't think about people behind them.
I was asylee once and I will never forget that this country gave me chance to start over again. For some people it's like a Game where winner getting Status in US, for another group it's a life or death situation. Im with Another Group I am on their side regardless if they are Christians, Muslims, Jews, whites, blacks, yellow etc.
 
Be4 said:
Uncle Joe
Your lack of civility is an insult to the whole forum community. Please, watch your language. Also, let the USCIS make the determination on Devastation's eligibility for asylum - do not try to pretend to be a volunteer asylum officer.
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Don't blame me.
Let me ask you a question.
You are saying that I am determining his eligibility by blaming him that he's Fake Asylee. Right? What about another post from Raziel "No one can predict USCIS or asylum office but you did well by saying the truth, when is the decision? " How do we know if he's saying truth or lying? We don't know!
So why sentence from person who said "you did well by saying the truth" - acceptable. And sentence when person who said "you did bad, lying to the officer" - unacceptable? How do we know that he said truth or lied?
In support of my opinion I offer anybody just read his previously posts, when he's changing his words in every post. And if you telling the truth your words will be the same, because you know the truth, and you don't have to making up the stories and memorize what you said last time.
 
Uncle Joe said:
Don't blame me.
Let me ask you a question.
You are saying that I am determining his eligibility by blaming him that he's Fake Asylee. Right? What about another post from Raziel "No one can predict USCIS or asylum office but you did well by saying the truth, when is the decision? " How do we know if he's saying truth or lying? We don't know!
So why sentence from person who said "you did well by saying the truth" - acceptable. And sentence when person who said "you did bad, lying to the officer" - unacceptable? How do we know that he said truth or lied?
In support of my opinion I offer anybody just read his previously posts, when he's changing his words in every post. And if you telling the truth your words will be the same, because you know the truth, and you don't have to making up the stories and memorize what you said last time.
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Not quite sure why you're taking a blame... Let me try it once again: it is up to the USCIS to determine asylum eligibility, not to you or me, for that matter. You are not familiar with all details of Devastation's asylum claim, yet are very quick to pass a judgement and resort to name-calling - this is what I call lack of civility. As for Raziel's post, you need to ask him for any clarifications.
 
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Uncle Joe - I think you are taking too much offense to what people are saying. I think people actually agree with your sentiments but they think you could have been more diplomatic in your utterance. In my opinion, if Devastation changes his story immigration has all those different statements on file and it will only hurt him and his case- not anyone on this forum.
 
Be4 said:
Not quite sure why you're taking a blame... Let me try it once again: it is up to the USCIS to dermine asylum eligbility, not to you or me, for that matter. You are not familiar with all details of Devastation's asylum claim, yet are very quick to pass a judgement and resort to name-calling - this is what I call lack of civility. As for Raziel's post, you need to ask him for any clarifications.
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Im not adjusting his status. if he will be granted or denied it's USCIS business. I was giving my opinion for what he was saying. Did I said something that wasn't in his previous posts???? I was reciting his posts and told that those posts didn't match.

My Original post was
Dude, persecuted? You told us that some of your relatives was persecuted and you afraid of coming back because of a POTENTIAL persecution.
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The answer was

sir, you're respectfully ignored.
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Then uninformed Raziel (who probably don't remember his previous posts) Replied
No one can predict USCIS or asylum office but you did well by saying the truth, when is the decision?
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Im highlighting few words, because I don't know where's the truth. OP posting messages and every time it was a different story.

What's wrong with that? Why did you guys start attacking me?
Im trying figure out his story, because it's kinda confusing when his changing it everyday!

Im not USCIS and have no rights to grant or denied his application. All I did is shaming him and said how can you do this.
 
GayGuy said:
Uncle Joe - I think you are taking too much offense to what people are saying. I think people actually agree with your sentiments but they think you could have been more diplomatic in your utterance. In my opinion, if Devastation changes his story immigration has all those different statements on file and it will only hurt him and his case- not anyone on this forum.
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What was offensive in my post?


My original post!
Dude, persecuted? You told us that some of your relatives was persecuted and you afraid of coming back because of a POTENTIAL persecution.
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GayGuy
Thank you for a number of good points! :)

Uncle Joe

I don't mean to be rude, but don't you have better things to do than search someone's postings? :confused:
 
Raziel said:
No one can predict USCIS or asylum office but you did well by saying the truth, when is the decision?
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Let's give the Official Government decides who can predict USCIS and who can't. Let's keep our judgment to ourselves.

Everybody offending USCIS and it's normal, it's OK right?
But you can't offend person who tell us different stories everyday.
You can't call him a Liar, because it's offensive.
 
Be4 said:
GayGuy
Thank you for a number of good points! :)

Uncle Joe

I don't mean to be rude, but don't you have better things to do than search someone's postings? :confused:
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I didn't search, I remember this guy, he was posting here almost everyday.
 
Thank you each of you for participating. More importantly, the participation of some forumers whose views i genuinely respect has compelled me to get back to this thread to clarify things that seem to have been clouded.

While I deny accepting the accusations that I’ve been looking for sympathy, the name callings, the “unbounded arrogance”, the “inhumane hubris” and the impulsive conclusions that was shed to my behalf, I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to you all who thought that we are at no qualification to judge anyone.

Guys, let me take this liberty to clarify my situation for them WHO ARE INTERESTED! Intruders, if any, are kindly asked to ignore this post before they are offered, yes with respect, “a cold shoulder”.

A synopsis of my story, as all of my political asylum thread entails: Before I came to the US, I worked for an International Organization. Then, the war was at its peak and thousands of people were killed. I faced difficulty at work as the rebel started making their demands at my office. Subsequently, when we ignored their demands, the threat aroused. I was persecuted to the extent that I was hardly able to save my life. Then I fled to the US.

Where I failed, unfortunately, is at the fact that I did not apply for asylum after my arrival. Call it lack of awareness or my inability to seek asylum information. Whatever that pleases your astute understanding, but this reality has been costing me and me but nobody else. I’m the ONLY sufferer to this reality.

Things apparently calmed down as the dialogue process was in motion between the government and the rebels. Yet, nothing was concrete. In such, due to the lack of clear picture of safety, I was reluctant to return. Yes, because the stake was my “existence”.

And now that the truce is broken and the terror has heightened, my life is in risk again. I have not just “POTENTIAL” but “BLATANT” risk of persecution if i now returned. My family back home is assaulted already. They are looking for me everywhere all over again.
Prior to this, I HAVE tried to LOOK for other information to legalize my stay. Honestly and very frankly, I don’t see anything wrong about it.

To the aspirants who believe that the truthfulness exists only and only within the realm of their imagination, who believe their every conclusions is sensible and who believe arrogance is intelligence, are failing to think out of the box. We all are unique, so are our stories. It’s just that my story might possess a little more width than the frame of your imagination or arrogance could take. I vividly see there’s a size variance which is the cause of this conflict.

Others: I could not be any further outspoken or candidly spoken as you can see I’ve chosen to conceal information on my cop and other particular ones. I am aware this is the public forum.

Thank you all again for your concern. Wish you all the success ahead. God bless you all.
 
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Devastation said:
Thank you each of you for participating. More importantly, the participation of some forumers whose views i genuinely respect has compelled me to get back to this thread to clarify things that seem to have been clouded.

While I deny accepting the accusations that I’ve been looking for sympathy, the name callings, the “unbounded arrogance”, the “inhumane hubris” and the impulsive conclusions that was shed to my behalf, I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to you all who thought that we are at no qualification to judge anyone.

Guys, let me take this liberty to clarify my situation for them WHO ARE INTERESTED! Intruders, if any, are kindly asked to ignore this post before they are offered, yes with respect, “a cold shoulder”.

A synopsis of my story, as all of my political asylum thread entails: Before I came to the US, I worked for an International Organization. Then, the war was at its peak and thousands of people were killed. I faced difficulty at work as the rebel started making their demands at my office. Subsequently, when we ignored their demands, the threat aroused. I was persecuted to the extent that I was hardly able to save my life. Then I fled to the US.

Where I failed, unfortunately, is at the fact that I did not apply for asylum after my arrival. Call it lack of awareness or my inability to seek asylum information. Whatever that pleases your astute understanding, but this reality has been costing me and me but nobody else. I’m the ONLY sufferer to this reality.

Things apparently calmed down as the dialogue process was in motion between the government and the rebels. Yet, nothing was concrete. In such, due to the lack of clear picture of safety, I was reluctant to return. Yes, because the stake was my “existence”.

And now that the truce is broken and the terror has heightened, my life is in risk again. I have not just “POTENTIAL” but “BLATANT” risk of persecution if i now returned. My family back home is assaulted already. They are looking for me everywhere all over again.
Prior to this, I HAVE tried to LOOK for other information to legalize my stay. Honestly and very frankly, I don’t see anything wrong about it.

To the aspirants who believe that the truthfulness exists only and only within the realm of their imagination, who believe their every conclusions is sensible and who believe arrogance is intelligence, are failing to think out of the box. We all are unique, so are our stories. It’s just that my story might possess a little more width than the frame of your imagination or arrogance could take. I vividly see there’s a size variance which is the cause of this conflict.

Others: I could not be any further outspoken or candidly spoken as you can see I’ve chosen to conceal information on my cop and other particular ones. I am aware this is the public forum.

Thank you all again for your concern. Wish you all the success ahead. God bless you all.
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Devastation,

That's why I am against death sentence, I am sure sure some innocents people are killed. as human beings, we are all imperfect.

Good luck bro!
 
Devastation said:
Thank you each of you for participating. More importantly, the participation of some forumers whose views i genuinely respect has compelled me to get back to this thread to clarify things that seem to have been clouded.

While I deny accepting the accusations that I’ve been looking for sympathy, the name callings, the “unbounded arrogance”, the “inhumane hubris” and the impulsive conclusions that was shed to my behalf, I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to you all who thought that we are at no qualification to judge anyone.

Guys, let me take this liberty to clarify my situation for them WHO ARE INTERESTED! Intruders, if any, are kindly asked to ignore this post before they are offered, yes with respect, “a cold shoulder”.

A synopsis of my story, as all of my political asylum thread entails: Before I came to the US, I worked for an International Organization. Then, the war was at its peak and thousands of people were killed. I faced difficulty at work as the rebel started making their demands at my office. Subsequently, when we ignored their demands, the threat aroused. I was persecuted to the extent that I was hardly able to save my life. Then I fled to the US.

Where I failed, unfortunately, is at the fact that I did not apply for asylum after my arrival. Call it lack of awareness or my inability to seek asylum information. Whatever that pleases your astute understanding, but this reality has been costing me and me but nobody else. I’m the ONLY sufferer to this reality.

Things apparently calmed down as the dialogue process was in motion between the government and the rebels. Yet, nothing was concrete. In such, due to the lack of clear picture of safety, I was reluctant to return. Yes, because the stake was my “existence”.

And now that the truce is broken and the terror has heightened, my life is in risk again. I have not just “POTENTIAL” but “BLATANT” risk of persecution if i now returned. My family back home is assaulted already. They are looking for me everywhere all over again.
Prior to this, I HAVE tried to LOOK for other information to legalize my stay. Honestly and very frankly, I don’t see anything wrong about it.

To the aspirants who believe that the truthfulness exists only and only within the realm of their imagination, who believe their every conclusions is sensible and who believe arrogance is intelligence, are failing to think out of the box. We all are unique, so are our stories. It’s just that my story might possess a little more width than the frame of your imagination or arrogance could take. I vividly see there’s a size variance which is the cause of this conflict.

Others: I could not be any further outspoken or candidly spoken as you can see I’ve chosen to conceal information on my cop and other particular ones. I am aware this is the public forum.

Thank you all again for your concern. Wish you all the success ahead. God bless you all.
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Man, no offense. But do you agree with me that you started with different story? That's why I had doubt about your case. Dude, If you grew up in the country which was at war, I truly understand you, I know how it is. I just came back from war last spring. And still remember sound of incoming mortar rounds. It's not joke, it's not like on TV. But dude, listen I hope you're not a fake asylee as I said before. If you really can't go back, God help you, hope you'll be approved.
And listen, you see how important truth is? If I was an IO I would doubt your stories. Because it's confusing.

I wish you good luck if you are saying the truth
I wish you to get deported if you lying!

And please keep us posted.
 
By the way guys, i forgot to mention that i was interviewed by Asylum Supervisor. I dont know if that matters at all- post your impressions please.
 
they should be following the same rules and values, either supervisor or AO..

Was there an asylum officer under training too?
 
I was was interviewed by the SAO as well and still she issued the NOID before granting me asylum two months later.
 
Raziel: Yes, i cannot justify why she did not allow me to make the concluding statement, Neither did she check my original documents as opposed to many others.

Bafoussam: Thank you for letting me know. My SAO was a black lady, i would say in her late 50s or so. She was very contained and did not show that she was very interested in my answers.
 
Devastation said:
Raziel: Yes, i cannot justify why she did not allow me to make the concluding statement, Neither did she check my original documents as opposed to many others.

Bafoussam: Thank you for letting me know. My SAO was a black lady, i would say in her late 50s or so. She was very contained and did not show that she was very interested in my answers.
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You will be fine Devastation, usually black female officers are very nice so I hope she gives you what you're seeking.
 
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