Mom w/ 3 girls in removal proceeding. HELP!

[bahamas68]

Yeah, exactly. Hopefully your amnesty will never happen. It is an insult to all of us who came here legally and followed the law.

It is an insult to those who went to the arduous and extremely difficult process of immigration, to classify them as something lesser because they got their papers differently than you. The law defines the exact steps you have to follow, and under what section of the law you qualify; whether you came in legally or not. If you can qualify under the immigration code to get your green card or any other status, whether employment based, court process, family relation, you're just as much of a legal immigrant as the guy who came in legally, or had to renew their visa 15 times before they were approved, and you can feel proud.
I don't think there will be amnesty, but if there is and you get it via that process than congratulations to you also. You've followed a legitimate process that's on the books just like the other guy.
The analogy I like to make is like the criminal justice system. Some people are released from jail because of overcrowding, others because they are paroled (they may have only serve a fraction of their sentence.), others because a judge sentences them to less than the maximum etc... You think those prisoners that are released sits around and complains about the next guy because they got released differently than them? No; they're just happy they won their freedom.
Thank God for a country that takes the law very seriously and make sure that it is followed, but balances that with compassion and practical solutions.

That's what Justice is all about.

 

[AzBlk]

You have no idea how many immigrants care enough about the laws and take the time to ensure that we stay legal, wait patiently or perhaps remain outside the US until we can come here legally.

People come to this country illegally for various reasons sometimes through no fault of their own. What would you say to a kid that was brought here legally or illegally when they were a toddler, have grown up in this country, graduated from college, always thought of themselves as Americans only to be told they can not get a job because they have no status? You yourself came from Canada a first world country so you probably have no idea of the crashing poverty that drives people to walk north six thousand miles from south america, through mexico, across the arizona desert to wash dishes getting paid $5 an hour. I have never heard of a case where a legit immigrant is denied a visa because there was too many illegals cutting in line.

Did someone hold a gun to her head and force her to file a bogus asylum claim? I wonder how many legitimate asylees suffered or died because USCIS resources were diverted into preventing fraudulent applications?

What bogus claim for asylum are you talking about? It was the her right to make an asylum claim for whatever reason and that is why there are hearings to determine whether the claimant meets the standard to be granted asylum. I have read about asylum being granted for some crazy reasons including one that was recently granted to an albino from Tanzania who claimed that he was afraid to return to Tanzania because witchdoctors would kill him to use his body parts in black magic rituals. So unless an IJ ruled that the OP made a frivolous claim to asylum, it is a stretch to label a denied asylum claim as bogus.

Just because I strongly disgaree with many anti-immigrant movements doesn't mean that there is a strong and legitimate cause for immigrants to treat lying, cheating fraudsters harshly. Just because I believe that America is stronger due to immigration doesn't mean I am forced to support liars and criminals who try and subvert the system and steal a slot from a legitimate asylee seeking to flee persecution.

I have to agree you can treat the liars,fraudsters, drug dealers and murderers harshly but do not lump all illegals in the same boat. Most are good hard working people who just happen to lack status in this country which is civil infraction much like a speeding ticket. What an amnesty or CIR would do is offer them a way to get right with the law. Every asylum claim is judged on it merits and there is no numerical limit as to how many asylum cases can be granted so the scenario you conjuring up of a slot being stolen from a legit asylee is very remote indeed. Yes the USCIS may scrutinize asylum claims more closely because of suspected fraud but such is the nature of immigration, the onus is on the immigrant to prove that they qualify or deserve the benefits they are seeking.

 

[trialanderror83]

People come to this country illegally for various reasons sometimes through no fault of their own. What would you say to a kid that was brought here legally or illegally when they were a toddler, have grown up in this country, graduated from college, always thought of themselves as Americans only to be told they can not get a job because they have no status? You yourself came from Canada a first world country so you probably have no idea of the crashing poverty that drives people to walk north six thousand miles from south america, through mexico, across the arizona desert to wash dishes getting paid $5 an hour. I have never heard of a case where a legit immigrant is denied a visa because there was too many illegals cutting in line.



What bogus claim for asylum are you talking about? It was the her right to make an asylum claim for whatever reason and that is why there are hearings to determine whether the claimant meets the standard to be granted asylum. I have read about asylum being granted for some crazy reasons including one that was recently granted to an albino from Tanzania who claimed that he was afraid to return to Tanzania because witchdoctors would kill him to use his body parts in black magic rituals. So unless an IJ ruled that the OP made a frivolous claim to asylum, it is a stretch to label a denied asylum claim as bogus.



I have to agree you can treat the liars,fraudsters, drug dealers and murderers harshly but do not lump all illegals in the same boat. Most are good hard working people who just happen to lack status in this country which is civil infraction much like a speeding ticket. What an amnesty or CIR would do is offer them a way to get right with the law. Every asylum claim is judged on it merits and there is no numerical limit as to how many asylum cases can be granted so the scenario you conjuring up of a slot being stolen from a legit asylee is very remote indeed. Yes the USCIS may scrutinize asylum claims more closely because of suspected fraud but such is the nature of immigration, the onus is on the immigrant to prove that they qualify or deserve the benefits they are seeking.

What a comeback.....