Medical Insurance for Parents - a nightmare?

payala said:
I knew someone was really gonna take it the wrong way. I know the original post was about finding healthcare for parents, and there is nothing wrong with that. It just bothered me when people started thinking about medicare and mediaid. It's like thinking "I'm gonna bring my parents here and in few years they can get everything for free with other people's money". I know many people don't think that way, I wasn't going against you or anyone in particular. It's for future reference, I just meant it so people would realize that they need to be responsible and if they bring anyone here (husband, parents, etc) they cannot rely on federal support to survive. That was all.
Again, sorry if I offended anyone in particular.
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Dear, I don't know WHY do you think you MIGHT have offended anyone? You have said right thing.

Just want you know something. I'm in a favor of people receiving EMERGENCY medical help in needs but not when people PURPOSELY bring parents in the hope of being taken care of on the expense of taxpayers. You are a NICE person. Just try to stay away from some selfish people from here who don't keep the ability to comprehend simple things; rather they like to justify their cause based upon their selfish needs.

Someone has said about me GETTING SCARED of being REPORTED to MODERATOR, which must be either a April fool joke or no doubt that this person is the BIGGEST idiot/stupid. Otherwise, this person must have known that JohnnyCash ALWAYS have said things what he feels right regardless of what moderators, administrator, and owner of this site would think.

I always stand up for my conviction then getting SCARED of anyone. Plus, would I care if my posts get deleted or if I get banned? Yeah right, I come here to ask things and to know how to fulfill selfish needs? Stupid thinks if moderator would delete my postings then it would SCARED the hell out of me as if I will be put on a death row, right?

I edited my above posts BEFORE anyone posted AFTER me. So, about someone saying that I got SCARED of being reported to moderator, then this is the biggest joke I've ever heard. And, why would ANYONE be scared of saying thing? Unless they don't want to get banned, which I don't care about.

Remember, what I told you before when I said that if you say something about their motives/selfish quest/"discussion" then these people will talk all kind of BS to justify their selfish needs, including making irrelevant statements? For example, idiot has said something about someone (probably referring to me) of filing bankruptcy in Las Vegas, which I don't even know what the hell this person is talking about.

What bankruptcy has to do with sucking the govt.? Who filed bankruptcy? And how could someone file bankruptcy in Las Vegas if s/he lives in another state? Bankruptcy case MUST need to be filed where person resides. Also, people file bankruptcy because of having MOSTLY consumer debts (money to private companies) than to govt. entities. Thus, bankruptcy has nothing to do with govt. benefits, in most people's case. Plus, taxes cannot be wiped out/dischared in bankruptcy if they are not of few years back. At last, my taxes to govt in A YEAR is most probably equivalent to 10 yrs' gross income of this person if s/he is making $30K a year. So, do the math about bankruptcy and who is taking advantage from govt.

Now, this person would fingering to moderator in the quest of deleting my postings as this person has done this before but ended up deleting her own posting too. About mine, then I already mentioned about deleting them when I said that I would delete my posting if the last posting of this stupid gets deleted. What a clown!
 
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Emergency health care is one thing... I don't think any humane person would disagree. The problem with some of the posts are they are looking for the Gov't to provide routine health care under Medicare and for pre-existing conditions. There is a big difference between emergency medical care and routine... Just like there is a big difference between medicaid and medicare.

I am in the same boat as my wife is not from the US originally... I would love to bring her mother over to live with us, but I will absolutely not bring her to the US so she can rely on social service programs. I would only do it if we have private insurance.

The Gov't should have universal health care where you can pay into the program and anyone can be covered. But right now, we don't. And posting comments on a widely viewed immigration board like this thinking one is entitled to these social service programs gives everyone a black-eye.
 
For the millionth time, if there's any misunderstanding, no one brings their parents to the US, just to use these programs.

I can speak with conviction, that we are entitled to social service programs, just like the rest of them do - b'cos we have contributed enough and the yearly contribution statements that we get from such agencies go to prove that!

I don't know how /why assumptions are made that people have worked or living here for 3 - 5 years only, especially when comments are in response to posts made by a couple of us. I personally know that some of them posting here, have worked here for at least 12 years. Those of us who got their GC through employment, and are now sponsoring their parents as citizens, they have worked here much, much longer than the "3 -5 years". I cannot speak for everyone who posts on this thread, but after I came to this country I have worked long enough to say that "I have paid my share of taxes and will continue to contribute, for another 30 years or so". I don't know how born here or not, affects the picture - I can tell you that, if you were to compare most people who were born here and are my age, I have contributed more in taxes towards these support programs, than they did. I do not understand why you would say "how comments like this are hurting immigrants". It's weird.

If parents who are sponsored are in their early 50's, then they too have a potential to contribute towards the support services by earning their 40 credits, which the government has stipulated.

I see that we have let the trolls achieve part of their goal by steering this very useful thread into completely another direction. My sincere request would be to get back on track to the main issue at hand and don't have much else to say in this regard.
 
As I have said, I am pro-immigration and family unity... But comments, specifically like jenimmi has wrote, are bad for the cause. Being a USC from birth, I understand the culture that most USC believe in when it comes to immigration. Telling a USC from birth that you have contributed enough in taxes for the Gov't to support you AND your parents is not going to fly. Remember, the parent of a USC from birth has also worked their entire life and probably paid 50+ years in taxes.

Social service programs are not supported 100% by current tax dollars, if that was the case, then they would not be bankrupt right now.

And basically telling USC's that you work harder and contribute more is just wrong to say. Although it might be true.

However, the money and amount of contribution is not the issue here. The issues is how it is perceived. Remember, this is all governed by politics and inflaming the debate just makes things worse. Especially talking about how you are entitled to these. Entitled is a strong word to use both legally and socially.

I am done with this debate, but just keep this in mind as you discuss it more. Words and action mean a lot when it comes to the preception of immigration. Just look how bad the first ralies a few weeks ago when people were flying flags from Countries other then the US. It inflamed Americans and set back the current immigration bill.
 
What's up with using the term 'trolls"? No one is insulting you. I havent used any insulting terms against you.

Anyways, I totally agree with sometime2006, that all I was trying to say. I hate it when people say that all immigrants are just here to suck on the governments money, I know I'm not. And it's true, you shouldn't say you, I, anyone is 'entitled' to these services, expecially more than a US born citizen. For example, my in laws would find it very unfair, since they've paid taxes all their lives AND are paying $2000 A MONTH for health insurance. And not ONCE have I heard them say that they're entitled to free health care since they've paid their share of taxes.

OK I'm letting it go now.
 
Health insurance for Immigrants - Check this company

Hello,

I have been searching for health insurance for my folks who are in the process of getting their green cards ( Mom - 68 and Dad -78).. and most of you are correct that there is nothing available for folks over 70.

However I came across this site: Check it out - A friend of mine used them for his parents and it works !.

http://health.kvrao.org/

According to the website it is underwritten by AIG.

Thanks
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Hi,
I am new here and trying to find some useful health insurance information for my newly immigrated parents.
The reason my parents are coming to live with us is because we have new born twin that we really want my parents to be part of their growing up, there is nothing about sucking government’s resource. Both my wife and I are highly educated and have worked over 15 years to supported the government and economy every way we can (pay good tax, spend lots also). And of course if there are any government programs will help us I would like to hear about it.
Some of your negative comments are irrelevant to the topic, if you do not have anything useful to say please keep it to yourself, it’s very annoying. Please stay in topic.
 
Your state may have a high risk health insurance pool for people with pre-existing health conditions. Costs in my state depend on gender and age and may be as much as $4,000 per month per person. There is NO government program for your parents. You agreed to support them; you need to take your affidavit of support seriously.

Your problem is not unique; millions of WORKING citizens are unable to afford health insurance. We have worked nearly 40 years and struggle to obtain health insurance for our US citizen disabled child.

How DARE you bring your parents here and expect others to support them. They have made NO contribution to the US and neither you nor they should expect US to support them in their old age.

No one is keeping you from leaving the US. If having your parents nearby was so important, you should have moved closer to them in their home country rather than now seek US government aid for them.
 
Again if you have nothing useful to say abut this topic please keep it to yourself, if you have nothing better to do then arguing about immigration policy go post somewhere else.
 
Although you claim to be highly educated, you seem to be unable to comprehend the previous discussion on this thread and other on this forum. Simply put, until your parents have been LPRs for 5 years and are over the age of 65, there are NO GOVERNMENT health insurance programs to assist them. You may purchase comprehensive insurance; it will be expensive; it is the reality of health care in the USA.

As their sponsor, it was extremely irresponsible - and stupid - of you not to have worried about this BEFORE you moved them here.
 
Have you checked that if a TAX id number could work.
My son does not have a SSn but has a tax id and Blue croos accepts it.
I have had his insurance for over 4 years now.

patty579 said:
I'm sorry to hear about your mother's illness and that huge hospital bill! American hospitals and doctors are crazy.
I can't be insured with my husband either, because his insurance told me that I needed a SSN for that, but I just filed my applications and can't get one yet. I still have my insurance from back home though, which is still valid for 2 more months.

If your mom can't apply for a SSN yet, I would try to find out how much it would cost if you insure your mother with an insurance company from your home country. You know, like a temporary vacation insurance, or something like that.
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