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bigpako

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This is funny/disturbing, but I know of a person who is applying for residency based on lies and fabricated information such as addresses, former employemnt, etc. I'm sure I know the answers to this but, How profound are applicant's backgrounds investigated? Is it easy to use fabricated information to apply and or qualify?

Thanks,
 
Live and let live

I also know that what i'm going to say may unsettle a lot of people, but the truth is Who amongst the thousands of GC applicants have not bent the truth in one way or another. My guess is that very few percentage of applicants have unblemished records because their eligibility path to GC is smooth and therefore have nothing to hide. The complexity of the law, and stringent eligibility criteria for all kinds of immigration benefits probably pushed many people to stretch their records and procedure beyond what they actually are. Your friend may have overdone it, which is regrettable. I guess it is a matter of survival for him and a whole lot of people out there. Going back to their native countries after many years may not be palatable. Careers and dreams of making a good living in the short lives of human being is a strong pool that are hard to ignore. I dont think you should worry about this issue but focus more on how you will realize your own dream. The system and the law will take their natural causes.
 
I was pretty sure of the consecuences and all, but is there really NO type of background check? Does the INS solely rely on documents provided by the applicant? This really bothers me. I know people, honest people, who've been waiting for an opportunity for 8,9 10 years, and then some dishonest, lying, SOB like wants to "cut in line", I wish I could do something, but again if our system can be manipulated like that then there's really something wrong.
 
Live and let live

You're probably right, but this guy has only been in the US for 2-1/2 years and he is saying 25 years, I don't know if you call that stretching the truth.
 
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Bigpako,

I would like you to take the attitude that everybody is on his/her own as far as GC is concerned. Even though I never supported illegal act, my point is that you should not feel like someone is cheating you by the way they are approaching their own GC process. NOBODY is cutting the LINE. The INS has everyone's priority date when we apply for GC. The priority date, country of eligibility, and individual circumstances dictate the time it takes for someone to get GC. Your examples of some people spending between 8 - 10 years in the GC process is rather unfortunate but those people may not have told you the whole truth regarding their peculiar situation. I read in this forum of someone from India who received the GC within 3 months during this period of retrogression, while majority average 2 - 3 years. Find out the details from those people and you will see what i'm saying. They may also have had lousy attorney or not presented their documentation in the manner INS prescribed. Remember, EVERYONE GOES BY THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES and don't equate that to your own GC delay. Looks like you are jelous that someone who is cheating may get his GC before yours.
Please accept the humanistic SURVIVAL INSTINCT in your other friend as the driving force behing his claim of 25 years in the U.S.
Remember the title of this message, "LIVE and LEt LIVE".
 
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Aloef,

Remember, there will always be cheaters and criminals in this world no matter how much punishment and deterrent are prescribed for each type of offense.
And every act of illegality always have a way of affecting the society at large. Remember how after 9/11 everything changed in the U.S both for potential immigrants and citizens alike? The law knows about this and people in government are constantly finding ways to block the loop holes.

My ealier two messages were solely directed at the first writer who somehow felt angry and jealous that someone is cutting-in-line and "cheating the rest of us" in the GC process. The truth is that someone is always finding new ways of cheating the system in our everyday activity. We should not be worrying about that, but rather should focus on achieving our own objective according to our ability. If you are strongly concerned about how hundreds of thousands of potential immigrants are going about their processes, you will be wasting your time. There will always be fraudsters in this world.
You mentioned the issue of single women's inability to obtain visitors visa. I can mentioned a whole bunch of other illegal issues tried by people that impacted the rest of the society. The point is .. those issues will always be there no matter what you and I do. The Bible says "He who is without any sin, let him cast the first stone".
Remember, I have not advocated nor supported fraudulent means. what I am saying is that we should mind our own business rather than worryng about others are doing. The World is what it is ..
 
This is still the 'judge giving away green-cards' scam, isn't it ?

USCIS will check on information given to them, particularly if it looks or smells fishy. They are slow, but not stupid. They can sniff out the types of lies you are talking about pretty well.

If you knowingly aid someone in committing immigration fraud by falsifying documents and lying to the goverment, you have to be comfortable with the idea of going to a federal prison for a couple of years (that is if you are a citizen, as a non-citizen they will do that AND deport you after your release).
 
softec_gc said:
Bigpako,

I would like you to take the attitude that everybody is on his/her own as far as GC is concerned. Even though I never supported illegal act, my point is that you should not feel like someone is cheating you by the way they are approaching their own GC process. NOBODY is cutting the LINE. The INS has everyone's priority date when we apply for GC. The priority date, country of eligibility, and individual circumstances dictate the time it takes for someone to get GC. Your examples of some people spending between 8 - 10 years in the GC process is rather unfortunate but those people may not have told you the whole truth regarding their peculiar situation. I read in this forum of someone from India who received the GC within 3 months during this period of retrogression, while majority average 2 - 3 years. Find out the details from those people and you will see what i'm saying. They may also have had lousy attorney or not presented their documentation in the manner INS prescribed. Remember, EVERYONE GOES BY THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES and don't equate that to your own GC delay. Looks like you are jelous that someone who is cheating may get his GC before yours.
Please accept the humanistic SURVIVAL INSTINCT in your other friend as the driving force behing his claim of 25 years in the U.S.
Remember the title of this message, "LIVE and LEt LIVE".
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Jelous! FUDGE U!!!!!!

I was born in this country whatever your name is.
 
softec_gc said:
Aloef,

Remember, there will always be cheaters and criminals in this world no matter how much punishment and deterrent are prescribed for each type of offense.
And every act of illegality always have a way of affecting the society at large. Remember how after 9/11 everything changed in the U.S both for potential immigrants and citizens alike? The law knows about this and people in government are constantly finding ways to block the loop holes.

My ealier two messages were solely directed at the first writer who somehow felt angry and jealous that someone is cutting-in-line and "cheating the rest of us" in the GC process. The truth is that someone is always finding new ways of cheating the system in our everyday activity. We should not be worrying about that, but rather should focus on achieving our own objective according to our ability. If you are strongly concerned about how hundreds of thousands of potential immigrants are going about their processes, you will be wasting your time. There will always be fraudsters in this world.
You mentioned the issue of single women's inability to obtain visitors visa. I can mentioned a whole bunch of other illegal issues tried by people that impacted the rest of the society. The point is .. those issues will always be there no matter what you and I do. The Bible says "He who is without any sin, let him cast the first stone".
Remember, I have not advocated nor supported fraudulent means. what I am saying is that we should mind our own business rather than worryng about others are doing. The World is what it is ..
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SOFTEC or whatever the hell your name is, I'm not jelous I just hate cheaters, and I'm getting the impression that you might be a cheating liar yourself or live with a cheating liar, so take your stupid UNAmerican comments the hell-out-a-here

Jealous!! pfftpt!
 
bigpako said:
This is funny/disturbing, but I know of a person who is applying for residency based on lies and fabricated information such as addresses, former employemnt, etc. I'm sure I know the answers to this but, How profound are applicant's backgrounds investigated? Is it easy to use fabricated information to apply and or qualify?

Thanks,
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bigpako,
If you know the person doing the fraud, and if you think you will suffer by that, why do not you report to DHS? Instead of starting such threads and wasting time on forum.
 
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