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muhamm5

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I am on H-1 B , and planning to apply for Labor certification - working for an Automobile manufacturing Company in Engineering department,my qualifications are Bachelor in Mechanical Engineering-SOC CODE (17-2141), Masters in Industrial Engineering SOC CODE(17-2112).
Just want to ask can i use Commercial & Industrial designer SOC CODE(27-1021), as base cause for using this code is meeting Salary requirements, other two codes giving high salaries, As i have a past experience of all three SOC codes. help will be appreciated
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muhamm5
You could be working under occupation A on h1b, the company could sponsor your green card under occupation B as long as your education, job duties and work experience fits in job profile mentioned under occupation B
 
You cannot file for labor certification; your company must do it on your behalf.

Your job position if it is a large company is likely aready defined. It isn't really up to you to pick out the code.
 
Thanks for the reply, i checked it and found it, yes it is already defined, now question is if i have a same role and job duties Can we make changes in it for example by modifying the Basic requirments.

Example is for Industrial Designer Educational requirement defined by my company is Bachelor degree in Industrial Design.
Can we change it by adding like Bachelor in Industrial Design OR Bachelor degree in Mechanical engineering plus 3 years related experience.OR Masters in Industrial Engineering Plus 2 years of experience
 
check for svp range for Industrial engineer on onet online. If it shows range of 7.0 < 8.0. Then the maximum education and work experience requirements cannot be more than bachelors degree plus 2 years work experience OR masters degree. Anything beyond these requirements would call for an business necessity audit
 
YOU cannot do anything. Depending on the company, the job descriptions are highly structured with A->B->C->D. They cannot change just the one that fits your job.

These details are for your employer to work out with the attorney.
 
Well basically i am kind of stuck

1. Company dont want to give a Big raise, so it will match Mechanical or Industrial Engineer Level Two FLC salary wage requirements.

2. Company lawyers they dont want to use any other profession than Mechanical Or Industrial Engineer which are my qualifications(B.sc & Msc)

3. so I cannot use these two Professions (Mech or Indust) or SOC codes cause they both giving me high salary numbers (FLC wage survey) exceeding my current salary

is there is a way out, Can i use any other SOC code, that does not involve Mechanical or Industrial salary data
 
YOU cannot do anything. What about this statement do you not understand? The attorneys are the most knowledgable individuals in this process. File wrong and the application for you will be denied. They have done this far more often than once and regularly receive information to which you are not privy about the process.

Quit trying to second guess the attorneys. You are NOT qualified and should not be involved with any of these decisions.

Everything revolves around the job - you could have 10 PhDs but if the job requirement was a BS, that is all that could be filed.

I suggest that since you have such a poor opinion of how your employer and his attorney are handling the process, that you would be happier at a new employer.
 
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muhamm5 said:
I am on H-1 B , and planning to apply for Labor certification - working for an Automobile manufacturing Company in Engineering department,my qualifications are Bachelor in Mechanical Engineering-SOC CODE (17-2141), Masters in Industrial Engineering SOC CODE(17-2112).
Just want to ask can i use Commercial & Industrial designer SOC CODE(27-1021), as base cause for using this code is meeting Salary requirements, other two codes giving high salaries, As i have a past experience of all three SOC codes. help will be appreciated
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The SOC/OES code is determined by the SWA (State Workforce Agency) in the Prevailing Wage Determination. The decision of the state is the one that counts, regardless of your opinion of what SOC code should be designated to you. The employer/lawyer can argue with the state's decision but it is likely a drawn-out process that will delay the case extremely.

Bottom line - the SWA decides the SOC code based on the information in the prevailing wage request. Though we may not agree with their decision sometimes, theirs is the one on which the subsequent processes rest.

Take a breath and calm down. Everyone is in this retrogressed processing queue and feeling the stresses. There is nothing to do but be patient and wait. If you speculate as to the millions of scenarios that could delay a petition, you will drive yourself crazy.
 
Concerned4us said:
YOU cannot do anything. What about this statement do you not understand? The attorneys are the most knowledgable individuals in this process. File wrong and the application for you will be denied. They have done this far more often than once and regularly receive information to which you are not privy about the process.

Quit trying to second guess the attorneys. You are NOT qualified and should not be involved with any of these decisions.

Everything revolves around the job - you could have 10 PhDs but if the job requirement was a BS, that is all that could be filed.

I suggest that since you have such a poor opinion of how your employer and his attorney are handling the process, that you would be happier at a new employer.
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This is my favorite response of all time. If there was a way to give you props, I would do it right now. A+++++!!
 
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