Is there any precedence that a natualized citizen gave up citizenship & became a PR?

AmericanWannabe

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Is there any precedence that a natualized citizen gave up citizenship & became a PR?

Or laws requires that either you keep your citizenship or
leave USA for good?
 
AmericanWannabe said:
Is there any precedence that a natualized citizen gave up citizenship & became a PR?

Or laws requires that either you keep your citizenship or
leave USA for good?
Always novel !questions ;) will be posted by AWB ;)
As per precedence of this type of cases,I am skeptical even an law firm with
a 40-50 years immigration practice, can find one of this nature.
Now it's the turn of AWB to explore and provide one such for a change. ;)
As far as renunciation and affects for 'what may happen' when.. clauses,
let us review the issues.(from state gov. info' and others)
1)Renunciation is the most unequivocal way in which a person can manifest an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Those contemplating a renunciation of U.S. citizenship should understand that renunciation is irrevocable, except as provided in Section 351 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, and cannot be cancelled or set aside absent successful administrative or judicial appeal. Consequently, renunciation of U.S. citizenship is not a step to be taken lightly
2)The U.S. Department of State has concluded that the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality required for purposes of finding loss of nationality for the purposes of Section 349(a) of the INA does not exist where a renunciant plans or claims a right to continue to reside in the United States, unless the renunciant demonstrates that residence will be as an alien documented properly under U.S. law.
3)Renunciations which are not in the form prescribed by the Secretary of State have no legal effect. Because of the way in which Section 349(a)(5) is written and interpreted, Americans cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States.
4)Further, a person who has renounced U.S. nationality ****will be required to apply for a visa to travel to the United States, just as other aliens do.*** If found ineligible for a visa, a renunciant could be permanently barred from the United States. Renunciation of American citizenship does not necessarily prevent a former citizen's deportation from a foreign country to the United States.
5)Those persons who, after careful consideration of the contents , desire to renounce U.S. citizenship may contact the U.S. embassy to make an appointment, bearing in mind that they will be asked to demonstrate poof of foreign residence, or failing that, evidence that they intend to enter the United States as an alien with documentation t that effect. Moreover, a person in possession of a U.S. passport will be asked to submit that passport to the U.S. consular officer for cancellation. If the certificate of loss of nationality is approved by the U.S. Department of State, the individual's name will be entered in the Department's name check system and they will be ineligible for U.S. passports in the future.
 
Participant said:
Always novel !questions ;) will be posted by AWB ;)
As per precedence of this type of cases,I am skeptical even an law firm with
a 40-50 years immigration practice, can find one of this nature.
Now it's the turn of AWB to explore and provide one such for a change. ;)
As far as renunciation and affects for 'what may happen' when.. clauses,

If renuncication of US citizenship is irreversible, then how come
that in many situations birth cirtificate is enough such as I-9
or even crossing into USA from Canada?

A natuall born citizen can give up his US citizenshipo
but still keep his birth certificate. Hell, even passport application
only requires birth certificate.

By the way, I don't think there is immigration quota for US-born
aliens (including children of foreign citizens borin in US
and US-born citizens who abandoned their US citizenship),
so they can never get GC if the quota applies.
 
When some one wants to Renounce and and want to reside in US(as residence)--
In the recent case of Colon v. U.S. Department of State , 2 F.Supp.2d 43 (1998), plaintiff was a United States citizen and resident of Puerto Rico, who executed an oath of renunciation before a consular officer at the U.S. Embassy in Santo Domingo. The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia rejected Colon’s petition for a writ of mandamus directing the Secretary of State to approve a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the case because the plaintiff wanted to retain one of the primary benefits of U.S. citizenship while claiming he was not a U.S. citizen. The Court described the plaintiff as a person, "claiming to renounce all rights and privileges of United States citizenship, [while] Plaintiff wants to continue to exercise one of the fundamental rights of citizenship, namely to travel freely throughout the world and when he wants to, ***return and reside in the United States.***" See also Jose Fufi Santori v. United States of America , 1994 U.S. App. LEXIS 16299 (1994) for a similar case.

A person who wants to renounce U.S. citizenship cannot decide to retain some of the privileges of citizenship, as this would be logically inconsistent with the concept of citizenship. Thus, such a person can be said to lack a full understanding of renouncing citizenship and/or lack the necessary intent to renounce citizenship, and the Department of State will not approve a loss of citizenship in such instances.
Link:http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html.
Anyway,the bottomline is, if one wants to renounce citzenship after earning it so Hard,he needs to think how sane the decison is.
 
Participant said:
Anyway,the bottomline is, if one wants to renounce citzenship after earning it so Hard,he needs to think how sane the decison is.

Since sometime ago we discovered a US citizen is not equivalent to a US national. So one can find a way to renumce his US citizenship
but retain his US nationality
 
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