Is it really worth....

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impactnow

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In current economic, political, overall world situation, what are the pros and cons of GC? Two years back in IT boom, it was
really a bonus. What do you see in the next 10-20 years or when you are in your sixties for you and your kids (cultural, economical, social or as a member
of a free society)? Does it makes a difference to have a valid work document or green card now-a-days? Any thoughts (neutrally) ?
 
Those are valid questions, and it all depends on your options, meaning, “Where will you have to go back to, if you leave US today?”.
If you are an Indian, as are most of the guys posting on this site (I am not), you probably will return to a professional environment much better than the one you left a few year back, as several jobs in IT are been exported to that country. And, for what I heard from several Indian friends, India is a nice place to leave and raise a family, if you have a good job.
However, if you came from a pour country, with immense problems, extremely high crime, an IT job market very restrict with not so good salaries, and you are not from a rich and powerful family, then you are much better off been a cab driver in Chicago.
 
Probably still worth it no matter what your other options or your backup is ( going back to your home country ) .

With the GC option atleast you don't have to worry about not finding a job right away.
 
One possibilty (a con? surely not a pro) is that our kids would be subject to draft if we are green carded........
 
One of my friends thought.....

Job security, kids (drafted?) security, looking after parents or forget about the country, parents, home country and "Enjoy?". Or just don't think about that, today's day is our day.

Many times I see parents/relatives expire, children go there for a day or two and cry, forget and get going!!!????

Am I very selfish? Or just I can throw "piece" of bread to "our ones" and not fill guilty?

Will our kids do the same with us?
 
India is a good country to leave!?

If Marcos knows about this, then the secret is out.

I guess with several Indians writing about getting 'payed' here, it can only be concluded that India is a good place to leave.
 
This is not related to any specific country.....

It's about mom and a "kid"...

"Kids" are opportunistic, they leave "mom" for own interest...

"Mom" is kind, full of forgiveness, she does not want to share the pain with the "kid"...

"Kids" pretend "mom" is happy....

"Kids" become "Mom" and it is their turn!
 
Re: This is not related to any specific country.....

Originally posted by impactnow
It's about mom and a "kid"...

"Kids" are opportunistic, they leave "mom" for own interest...

"Mom" is kind, full of forgiveness, she does not want to share the pain with the "kid"...

"Kids" pretend "mom" is happy....

"Kids" become "Mom" and it is their turn!
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You cannot generalize such things. The situation can be different for every individual immigrant. I have seen people dying to go back but the parents don't want them to come back home. This could be due to one or more of the following reasons:

- They are happy about their children's better life abroad and don't wanna see their children suffer in the home country for tiny little issues.

- Children send big bucks home and they don't want to not have that or they can't afford not to have that.

- Parents want their children to expand their roots in different parts of the world and they see USA as one of the best option to do so.
 
I seriously think its not about your parents...relatives or whoever you have in India (or your own country)..It's about this individual who came here few years...went through education..and got into a job...and liked it here...

If you or I wanted to go back...there is always a way to get back to the home country...You cannot expect everything you have here to get back there...but if one finds complacency in what they have wherever they are...I believe every place is worth living..raising a family..

I agree that some folks what their kids to be here..maybe its for the money..maybe its for a unexplainable reason...but the fact of the matter is....they WILL enjoy the return eventually...

I have been here for 8 years...the thought always comes..what am i doing here...though i have a decent job (hopefully my boss didnt hear this)...I just dont have the willpower to go back and adjust to a little less fruitful environment..That's being selfish...that's probably ok (cuz you can't judge me..i should do that)

I have an elder brother..who came here after I did..was here for 6 years...went through education...had a kid an year ago..and left last month..not cuz he didn't have a job or wasn't getting paid...he just chose that path..and i admire that..

To make a long essay short..To be or not to be is upto US...not our parents...not the government..not INS..not your boss...

Oh by the way..GC process is like insurance...why do all of us have auto/home insurance.. if nothing happened to the car..does that mean we wasted money..nope..its kinda security..and GC is just that..what if we stayed in the same job for next 10 years (maybe rules on H-1 will change by then)....can we say that people who applied for GC wasted their time/money/energy..i dont think so...I believe GC can let a person do ANOTHER thing when he is out of the first one..that's probably the only reason why all of us apply for that..

Please comment (but dont disagree..just kidding)
Madhav
 
This is insurance for your own

ambitions not for family, country......

Would you live here if, you and only you are allowed to live here?

Why can not you apply the rule for your parents....

I think old parents, friends, country are like kids....they need you... they are like kids....money can not buy everything...

If this economy does not improve you are going to treat "new mother" the same way you treated your "mother".

This is just an observation, opinion .... not applicable to all ...No offense, Just ignore this, if this is too irritating....
 
Nice to hear such things…good! What ever you decide…but please do not be a confused desi…be happy where ever you live…life is a kinda journey …whether you stay here or in timbaktoo…live with a smile…these GC’s problems etc will always be there…in life..so take it in stride and hope for the best..and since most of the guys here in IT…at least we all can live a honorable life…anywhere….so why bother….have FuN!!!!:D :cool:
 
You have choices now...

And as somebody pointed, eveyone case would be different.

In my view, be a good person and visit your home country every year or so. Try to help your relatives back home and be in touch with them.

If you practise such good behaviour, preserve your values and ethics, I'm pretty sure our kids would emulate us!

Cheers,
Prince.
 
Yes, It is worth..

Hi,

This is an interesting topic, something different from regular posts.
Thanks for the people sharing your thoughts.

In my opinion, it is worth trying for GC, as somebody told earlier it is just like an insurance. Atleast it would give us some kind of confidence and support to live in this country. One would not worry for thier jobs and status during period of any crisis. GC would definitely give a hope to live and plan for the better future in this country.

If you choose to go back to live in your own country then you could do that no matter whether you have GC or not.
Whether to live in this country or go back to own country is purely personal choice.

Thanks,

Arkay
 
I don't know about anybody else... but this is my story.
For me the GC process is INSURANCE. For I have no intnentions to continue living here longer than I have to. I just want to keep my options open when it comes to the point of making choices.
As far as me, although I am an Indian I've never really lived in India and neither do my parents. I would like to see my self settle down closer to them, not necessariy in the same country. FOr I donot intend to forget about them.
"The out of sight, out of mind" analogy doesn't work well or sit well with me.
Not a day goes by when I don't talk to my husband about how old our parents are getting and how we should start thinking about alternatives. But yes we're here to secure a future which once secure will be my last day here. For I have no affinity with this country or any as a matter of fact.
I completely believe in the proverb "Home is where the heart is.". And my heart belongs with my own (not Indians, my parents and my family)
I think and I have learnt this the hard way. If you let your life make choices for you you might end up somewhere which is really good but not what you really wanted. If you make choices and let your life fall into place behind it you would be a more harder journey but you will be a happier and more fulfilled person.
And yes I want my greencard for I want my children (when and if I have any) to be able to make the choice for themselves.
 
mad par what u say is correct .but when u are deciding which level is a secure level to goback to india. that level cannot be decided. for eg a person decides okay i will go back to india when i get a house and save some amount or when my problems are solved. what ever be the saving level for us to be secure we will be never satisfied u will always feel insecure. a person might feel if he saves 100 thousand he can go back to india but as the time passes he will surely feel that it is no enough. so he goes on staying here for ever-------------------
 
vanakkam,

It seems INS start approving cases. I think your case and my case are simillar. Did you hear any thing from INS recently?

Thanks,
 
Very interesting topic. This is something we discuss almost everyday at home. I have a friend who always says (Whenever we ask him when he is going to visit India) he will bring India to USA.

His phylosophy is that where ever we live, we should carry our family values and traditions, bring all our people along with us and create a home away from home. He gives example of Indian origin people who live in carribian islands and Maritious. They have forgotten our language but they still keep our family values and traditions even after generations. He also says be loyal to the country of your adoption, abide by the law of the land and be a good citizen.

When you have made a choice to live away from your home land what better you could do other than see the truth in my friend's phylosophy.

Well I have seen people come here. I have seen people come and go and I have seen people who repent after going back and some happy about their decision. I am seeing people who stayed back and feeling bad for not being able to go back. I also have seen people who made a decision to stay back and spending their lives with happiness and contentment.

Finally what I feel is, it is all in our mind. If you look at the little planet from up above, it is a very tiny and possibly lonely one and it makes no differance which part of it you live in as long as you live your life well.

I pray for all those people who believe in welbeing of human kind and I also pray god to bring about a change in the belief of those people who believe otherwise.

May God bless the mankind ! May god bless the little planet "Earth". Lest we all meet the fate of dinosaurs.

Regards,
 
hi indo i callled ins yesteray the iio said ur should not take long it might get approved in a month or two .
 
good to know some people agreed to my views...
vanakkam - that's what I meant when I said "complacency"...satisfaction.. If you think $20k is sufficient, you will stop there... If not, you continue..If u think buying a house and living here for couple of years is sufficient..then you stop there.. but eventually at some point you have to stop (if you want to get back home)...

and another thing is..bringing india to USA is impossible.. none can bring the smell of polluted air..:).. you can't possibly think of walking into sabji guys selling stuff on your street..these are simple things..but really different.. anyway I believe that I will get back home...not now..not tomorrow..but someday..and I want someone to wait for me there...I shouldn't go back home and wait for someone fromhere to come...

Madhav
 
Hi Madhav,

When I said bringing India to USA...I used figurative speech and not its literal meaning...hope you understan what a figurative speech is....i wish you do.

Good Luck with your GC.
Regards,
 
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