I surrendered my GC after using reentry permits for two times

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jills

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I recently had to surrender my GC at the US airport because of lack of full residency. I had used reentry permits for two times already. If in future I would be able to live in US what procedures should I run to get back my green card? They said within two years it is easy to get back my GC if I request it and prove that I have full commitment to live in US for the rest of my life. What immigration forms would be required for this purpose?
 
Did they let you into the US, or did they send you back to where you came from?

They said within two years it is easy to get back my GC if I request it and prove that I have full commitment to live in US for the rest of my life.
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"Easy"? LOL. They call it easy because they have no idea what the GC process is like if they haven't gone through it themselves.

If you are inside the US, you can plead with an immigration judge to get it back. If you are outside the US, you'll probably have to reapply from scratch. Neither way is easy.
 
When you say you used reentry permits two times, you mean you had two reentry permits one after the other, totaling 4+ years of extensive travel outside the US, right? Not that you used one reentry permit on two occasions.

I'm quite sure I know what you meant, but it would help if you would clarify for other readers so they don't think they'll get in trouble for using the same reentry permit more than once.
 
They allowed me to enter US and gave a multiple entry visa for a period of six month. I will leave US in a few days from now. Is it possible to tell a US embassy in future that my case paperworks are in US customs office waiting for me to be used in my case, would it allow me a visitor visa for coming to US and appearing there before a judge?

Two re entry permits each for two years I used.
 
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If they gave you something in your passport when you were at the airport, it almost certainly isn't a visa, it's probably a temporary I-551 stamp. If what you have is an I-551 stamp, that means the GC hasn't been canceled yet; I-551 is temporary evidence of permanent residence. Does it say I-551? How long ago did you enter the US?
 
I had plan to stay in US for eleven days and leave. In a few days the eleven days is finished. They gave me I- 193 visa. and I-407 executed they say.
 
Did you sign the I-407? If yes, your green card is dead!

You should see an immigration lawyer before you leave. Once you leave, you may never be able to return without applying for a new green card from scratch, with no priority or advantage given to you for having a green card in the past. Having the I-193 doesn't mean they'll let you back in with it.
 
Just curious what your travel was like over that 4 year period or what you think made them take it away? What was the 'purpose' for the permits originally?

I find the last line strange that you have to prove to them that for the 'rest of your life' you will reside...I mean you are allowed to change or circumstances come up right???? Isn't it up to you how many times you apply-should you want/need to?

Lastly-would they let you in as a visitor as often as you are allowed or not b/c you had a greencard before?

As my lawyer has repeatedly told us, they don't make rules for families or situations (sadly)>
 
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Im curious too, can you share us little more about your situation? like how long have you been outside the US since you became a permanent resident and how long for each trip? what questions did they ask you at the port and what was your answers. What the reason they gave you before taking your GR and did they give you anything such as the date of appearing at the judge ... ? I've read some threads from the immigartion forums saying that the officers at the entry port have no power to abandon one's GC, just the judge can do it. One again please share your experiences, I think alot of people here really want to know what happen to you and it's really helpfull for them to get more information in order to do the right thing to save their GC.
 
got2go408 said:
I've read some threads from the immigartion forums saying that the officers at the entry port have no power to abandon one's GC, just the judge can do it.
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However, it seems they pressured him into signing the I-407. If he signed it, that is probably the death of his GC, unless he can get a lawyer to help him argue it was signed under duress (e.g. suppose they wouldn't let him leave the secondary inspection room if he didn't sign it).
 
I hope JILLS could share some more information with us. How did he get his green card? What was the pattern of travelling? Did he receive any warning before this action?

Finally question for all others:

An LPR that has friends, address, bank account, drivers licence, and has lived at least half year in the U.S. He/she gets reentry permit good for 2 years. And the LPR returns almost after 2 year absence because of temporary work/study assignment to the U.S.

How likely it the LPR likely run into problems as Jills describe ?
 
I got my GC throught marrige to the American citizenship. Right after I got stamp on my PP I applied RP next day and left the country next day ( in 2006 they didn't require FP) and returned the US after 23 months 2 weeks. At that time I came back with my wife and my kid who was born abroad and also get Amercian citizenship at the US consulate. I got no trouble at all, the officer just asked how long I'd been out the country and then let me in with no futher question. After this trip, I was living in the US for 6 months and then left again and came back after 6 months , this time I came back just by myself without my wife (she got pregnant, again we plan to give birth the second kid in my country) and you know what? It took me about 30 min at the port to explain the reason I lived abroad that long, while I was answering the question, the officer keep typing on the computer likely he's searching something on that and then he wrote down on the custom paper 3 letters "BGC" ( back ground check I guess). Not yet, after getting luggage and getting out at custom point, the custom officer (or INS officer I dont know, they all wear the same uniform) take a look at the paper with "BGC" on that and took me to the custom check point to open all my luggage, my wallet and everthing in my pocket also was taken out and search carefully such as Im a most wanted on the world. While she checked my luggage she kept asking me alot of questions just like the questions the officer at the entry point asked. Finally, she told me that : do you know if you go in and out like this, the officer will take your green card. Of course I could get in the US at that time but I was really nervous about all this stuff. Again, I was living for a few weeks and left the country , this time came back after 4 months with my wife and kids (second kid was just 2.5 months old at that time and also got the US passport at the US consulate), I was so nervous at the port, showing my passport and GC following all the US passports of my family and suprisingly just 1 question asked regarding to the lenght of traveling abroad and that's it.

SO, to make life easier, bring your family with you
 
So what about the rest of the story? How long did you stay in the US before leaving on the second reentry permit, and how long did you stay abroad before this last return trip when they took your card? Did you have a reentry permit when returning from that 6 month trip where they harassed you with long questioning and searched your bags?
 
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Jackolantern said:
So what about the rest of the story? How long did you stay in the US before leaving on the second reentry permit, and how long did you stay abroad before this last return trip when they took your card? Did you have a reentry permit when returning from that 6 month trip where they harassed you with long questioning and searched your bags?
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They didn't take my card, last trip just was easy to get in that what I meant. I used one RP for the first trip and it expired . I didn't have second RP and Im im in the processing to get one. I posted my story just for you guys know how easy to pass throught the port if you bring your family with you.
By the way, is anyone here in the processing of applying the RP, I've been waiting for biometric notice for 50 days. Some people here sent their app at the same time already got that appointment but im still waiting and hope.
 
@got2go408

Your case is a really easy one. They take away your GC and you file for a new one again the next day based on American spouse. I guess they don't ask you anything as your American family stays with you abroad.
 
Is one allowed to really apply 'just like that' again (ie next day) because they are married to an AMerican?
Can they make it difficult /longer process for him to get due to this 'incident'?
Actually, do they look down upon applying multiple applications (therefore surrendering prior) for whatever reason?? Just curious..
 
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Really....was she way off base for telling you that 'if you go in and out like this the officer will take your card"? Can they do that at the border? Do they not have to let you in at least to go before a judge (I Assume they keep you overnight/detention)?

I find it strange that they treat PR so crappy, yet basically encourage these same PR to get citizenship in the end...ALmots like they don't like PR.



got2go408 said:
I got my GC throught marrige to the American citizenship. Right after I got stamp on my PP I applied RP next day and left the country next day ( in 2006 they didn't require FP) and returned the US after 23 months 2 weeks. At that time I came back with my wife and my kid who was born abroad and also get Amercian citizenship at the US consulate. I got no trouble at all, the officer just asked how long I'd been out the country and then let me in with no futher question. After this trip, I was living in the US for 6 months and then left again and came back after 6 months , this time I came back just by myself without my wife (she got pregnant, again we plan to give birth the second kid in my country) and you know what? It took me about 30 min at the port to explain the reason I lived abroad that long, while I was answering the question, the officer keep typing on the computer likely he's searching something on that and then he wrote down on the custom paper 3 letters "BGC" ( back ground check I guess). Not yet, after getting luggage and getting out at custom point, the custom officer (or INS officer I dont know, they all wear the same uniform) take a look at the paper with "BGC" on that and took me to the custom check point to open all my luggage, my wallet and everthing in my pocket also was taken out and search carefully such as Im a most wanted on the world. While she checked my luggage she kept asking me alot of questions just like the questions the officer at the entry point asked. Finally, she told me that : do you know if you go in and out like this, the officer will take your green card. Of course I could get in the US at that time but I was really nervous about all this stuff. Again, I was living for a few weeks and left the country , this time came back after 4 months with my wife and kids (second kid was just 2.5 months old at that time and also got the US passport at the US consulate), I was so nervous at the port, showing my passport and GC following all the US passports of my family and suprisingly just 1 question asked regarding to the lenght of traveling abroad and that's it.

SO, to make life easier, bring your family with you
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vandeluca said:
Really....was she way off base for telling you that 'if you go in and out like this the officer will take your card"? Can they do that at the border? Do they not have to let you in at least to go before a judge (I Assume they keep you overnight/detention)?
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They can physically take your card at the POE, but the officers there don't have the authority to actually cancel your LPR status. After they take the card, you would see a judge to argue your case to get back the card. If you succeed, you get back the card (or apply for a replacement one, if they destroyed/lost it), and continue living as an LPR. If you fail to convince the judge, the judge would cancel your LPR status and either order you deported or give you voluntary departure with a specified deadline.

Normally they will let you into the US to go home while you wait to see the judge. But I suppose they could keep you in detention if there was something else about you (e.g. you are wanted for a crime, or on the terror watch list).
 
Is one allowed to really apply 'just like that' again (ie next day) because they are married to an AMerican?
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The US citizen spouse could file a new I-130 immediately. However, you would not be eligible to file the I-485 and stay in the US, because you cannot file I-485 when removal proceedings have been initiated against you.
 
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