I-485 filed while Laid off ???

mahua

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Dear Frineds,

I need your opinions and advices in my situation......I appriciate your hlep....


My Husband and myself are on H1- B status . He just did concurrent filing I-140/I485( for both of us). We also filed for EAD and AP. The day we filed our I- 485 , I was on H1 but had been laid off for five months. My husband (Primary applicant) is maintaining his H1 status all the times. Would there be any implecation for my AOS application? Should I now file for change of status to H4 or just wait to get EAD and use EAD and AP for travel. I am very confused. I appriciate your help.

Thank you !!!

Mahua
 
so u were laid off for 5 months before your 485 was filled?
You didn't bother switching to H4 at the time you were laid off?

Technically you were out of status for 5 months because you were on H1 and were not getting the minimum pay mentioned in your H1 petition.

Now you are on AOS Pending status, and even though you can use EAD/AP, if I were you, I would get H4 and then re-enter US on H4 at-least once before I used my EAD/AP. I have no strong reason for this suggestion, it is something I would do.

You should talk to your lawyer regarding this.

Maybe BCISC will over look this, if you get lucky
 
You have been out of status for 5 months since you lost your job. You should have file for change of status to H4 immediately. But water has already flown under the bridge. When you were originally on H1, did your I-94 expire before you filled AOS? Meaning, where you ever in unlawful presence? If so, you can be in trouble. If not, then you can use 245(K) as you were only out of status for less than 180 days until AOS application. Please consult an attorney before leaving the country.
 
Do not get panic. You are counted as out of status only if your I-94 is expired. There are so many people here who were on the bench and not drawing the salary. It does not mean they were out of status.

If you apply for H4 now they may ask your pay stubs. Since you do not have the pay stubs there is chance that transfer may get rejected. In that case you may required to go out of US and get stamping again.

Apply in Texas. They will not ask pay stubs.
 
245(K) is a very generous AOS provision for employment based adjustments. As long as you have not accumulated any unlawful presence (as opposed to out of status, which you were as you were not employed by your H1 sponsoring employer), you are good to go by leaving the country and reentering on valid visa.
 
245(K) will come into picture when you over stayed your I-94. She was not illigal here. There was no over stay.

Do not go the posts here Consult lawyer. We are just people like you gathered knowledge by visiting these sites.
 
Originally posted by tammy2
245(K) will come into picture when you over stayed your I-94. She was not illigal here. There was no over stay.

Do not go the posts here Consult lawyer. We are just people like you gathered knowledge by visiting these sites.


I respectfully beg to disagree. 245(K) does not help you when you have accumulated unlawful presence (eg: overstays, entering US without proper inspection, etc). This is what I read from ilw website:

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But for what it's worth, I suggest that you consider as one possible alternative whether your clients can qualify for employment-based adjustment of status under INA section 245(k). This provision offers certain nonimmigrant workers seeking to adjust status a generous forgiveness for a variety of past infractions, as long as the particular requirements of 245(k) can be satisfied. To qualify under 245(k), the applicant on the date of filing for AOS must be present in the U.S. pursuant to a lawful admission, and must not thereafter, for a period exceeding 180 days, have (a) failed to maintain continuously a lawful status; (b) engaged in unauthorized employment; or (c) otherwise violated the terms and conditions of the applicant's admission.

Because the provision looks only to conduct occurring after the last lawful admission, prior violations of status or prior periods of unauthorized employment that occurred during previous entries to the U.S. may not be considered by the INS as a basis for ineligibility to adjust status. 245(k) is also helpful because by the express terms of the statute, this provision, when applicable, overrides other grounds of ineligibility to adjust status under INA sections 245(c)(2), (c)(7) and (c)(8). Thus, if your H-1B clients - even though having failed to maintain lawful status - are not overstays, they can depart the U.S. (without triggering the unlawful-presence penalties of INA sections 212(a)(9) and 222(g)) and reenter to resume lawful H-1B employment. Assuming that thereafter they remain in lawful status, they would seem to qualify for AOS under 245(k).


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Please note that it cannot override the unlawful penalties under INA sections 212(a)(9) and 222(g). It can only override 245(c)(2), 245(c)(7) and 245(c)(8). The following defination of these codes describes them:

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The following categories of persons are ineligible to adjust their
status under INA § 245(c):


aliens who continue in or accept unauthorized employment prior to filing an application for adjustment of status or who have failed to maintain a lawful status since entry into the United States (other than immediate relatives or special immigrants) (INA § 245(c)(2));

aliens seeking adjustment in employment based categories who are not in lawful nonimmigrant status (INA § 245(c)(7));

any alien who was employed while the alien was an unauthorized alien, as defined in section 274(h)(3), or who has otherwise violated the terms of a nonimmigrant visa (INA § 245(c)(8)).

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Note sections 212(a)(9) deals with aliens who have been previously deported or unlawfully present. Section 222(g) defined is : An alien who was admitted to the United States on a nonimmigrant visa and who remained beyond the period of stay authorized by the Attorney General is subject to section 222(g) of the Act. So unless you have been just out of status without accumulating unlawful presence, you can ajust under 245(K) if you depart and reenter using a valid visa and not be out of status for more than 180 days following the last entry. But you are toast if you have overstays. You cannot do AOS (atleast under 245(k)). Also statutory bars of 3/10 years might apply.

Sorry for the long post. I thought this issue needed more clarifications.
 
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Also, I am just discussing 245(k). I have no clue what provisions are under 245(i). I don't know if 245(i) helps with unlawful presence. So if anybody wants to contribute on that, that would be great.
 
I don't think she was illegally present in US, she was just violating the terms of H1 petition. I believe, Out of status and illegal presence are two different things.

I think it will be best for her to apply for H4 at the consulate, and re-enter US on H4 visa.
 
Yes, they are 2 completely different things. Though "unlawful presence" is a bigger "crime" than being "out of status". Hopefully her I-94 did not expire (if expired, but not more than 180 days) before she applied for AOS. I wish she can reply and than somebody can give her a more targeted reply.

Don't mean to panic you. But, she still has to disclose her out of status (if her I-94 did not expire) when she filed her AOS. Or she can hope that either USCIS does not find out nor send any RFEs asking for proof of continued lawful status (as lot of people seem to be getting nowadays).
 
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If some does not have the job but I-94 is not expired it is not illigal stay. But they need to go back the country of orgin and re-enter again.

If you cannot provide the recent paystubs in H1 renewal CIS will not approve H1 transfer but ask you go out of country enter with new stamping/I-94. If it was illigal stay / Out of status CIS would not have approved H1 to enter back.
 
Dear Friends,

I sincerely appriciated your suggestions and help in my situation.
After reading all of your posts I really got a lot of information and some directions. I would be talking to my lawer and let's see what he has to say.

I also need to tell you guys that my I-94 expires on Oct 2004.
Please let me know your opinions....

Thank you all !!

Still learning........

Mahua
 
Hey, that is good news. You do need to go out of the country and get yourself H4. You have been just out of status. I would imagine you are out of status for less than 180 days. I hope you have disclosed that in your 485. I am sure that your lawyer has used section 245(k) for your AOS. Please let us know what your lawyers says or under what basis he has filled your AOS.
 
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