How to complain our bad situation

rqtang

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Can sb provide some ways to complain to USCIS high rank our feeling? Though I don't think it can affect anything, I don't want to be crazy. Since we have been tortured so long time(I know sb RD in 2001 has not approved) and some of us feel unfair(I am glad see RD 2004 approved, but my feeling is worse), we do need some chanels to express our feeling, dismay, distress. I don't like to see psychy doctor.
 
Try personally and individually...you are at the wrong place

While your feelings are well understood, you are probably asking this at the
wrong place and wrong forum.

The vast majority of people visiting this forum have formed a sort of toothless
chaotic group who, I believe, have so-called "leaders" with firmly entrenched
opinions that INS is doing us a "great favour". We are the lucky favoured
doled out with favours from our master's. That's why you will see almost a
Tower of Babel kinda environment here.

If you were to try to express what you feel as a group, I am 100% sure you
won't get even one backer....again people, almost everybody, is afraid, that
if s/he were to participate in any such effort, s/he would be treated
vindictively by INS. Its this absolute sense of fear that has resulted in the
total lack of anything coherent and effective.

Hence, any lack of co-ordinated efforts and a total acquiescence in
status quo..in other words let matters be where they are. Instead, folks
here, led by "leaders", are experts in detecting hidden patterns based
on LUD status or stuff like what time of the day USCIS updated its online
system. I believe some of these spreadsheets and pattern detectors
may even be sold as reports etc to USCIS !

My 2 cents is....if you are satisfied with Excel Spreadsheets Data Entry,
pattern detection and arguments-exchange kinda stuff, use this forum
by all means; if not, I would suggest you try something entirely personally,
w/o any hope for help or co-operation from any of your "peers" here. Think
what's a logical step and pursue it entirely on your own. Your time/efforts
are much better spent that way.

After all, there was a Nobel Laureate poet in India who wrote ....
"If nobody heeds your call, just go alone..."
 
Other than sketching patterns,so called "leaders" may have insider information too !! :D
 
rqtang said:
Can sb provide some ways to complain to USCIS high rank our feeling? Though I don't think it can affect anything, I don't want to be crazy. Since we have been tortured so long time(I know sb RD in 2001 has not approved) and some of us feel unfair(I am glad see RD 2004 approved, but my feeling is worse), we do need some chanels to express our feeling, dismay, distress. I don't like to see psychy doctor.

Did you contact your local congressman and senators. Some forum members (if not many) got approved after their local lawmakers requested USCIS regarding the status. As you are not new in this forum, I guess you saw many threads regarding this topic. When you write to your local lawmaker(s) it's important that you let him/her know that you and your family are going thru hardship due to non-approval.
 
Sumanta said:
you are probably asking this at the
wrong place and wrong forum.

It's amazing to see this guy is hanging out in a "wrong" place for last two and half years.

Some people come to this forum regularly, get benefitted from all the information posted in various threads, but cannot acknowledge the benefit he/she received. Isn't there a nice word in dictionary for this kind of characters???
 
The benefits have been just enormous

No wonder the benefits have been sheer overwhelming !
 
rqtang said:
Can sb provide some ways to complain to USCIS high rank our feeling? Though I don't think it can affect anything, I don't want to be crazy. Since we have been tortured so long time(I know sb RD in 2001 has not approved) and some of us feel unfair(I am glad see RD 2004 approved, but my feeling is worse), we do need some chanels to express our feeling, dismay, distress. I don't like to see psychy doctor.

You do not complain to USCIS superiors about your feelings, you can complain only about unfair actions. If you want to discuss your feelings, you will be better off going to a shrink.
 
Sumanta

>>My 2 cents is....if you are satisfied with Excel Spreadsheets Data Entry,
>>pattern detection and arguments-exchange kinda stuff, use this forum
>>by all means; if not, I would suggest you try something entirely personally,
>>w/o any hope for help or co-operation from any of your "peers" here. Think
>>what's a logical step and pursue it entirely on your own. Your time/efforts
>>are much better spent that way.

Aha...I guess you are like one of us then....Those who "are satisfied with Excel Spreadsheets Data Entry, pattern detection and arguments-exchange kinda stuff" ... Since you are still hangin around in this forum :D
 
Try writing a letter to VSC

rqtang said:
Can sb provide some ways to complain to USCIS high rank our feeling? Though I don't think it can affect anything, I don't want to be crazy. Since we have been tortured so long time(I know sb RD in 2001 has not approved) and some of us feel unfair(I am glad see RD 2004 approved, but my feeling is worse), we do need some chanels to express our feeling, dismay, distress. I don't like to see psychy doctor.

RqTang,
I can tell you from someone who has followed the route of
Congressman etc.. While there's no harm trying to contact them, I really
doubt how much mileage you will get out of it. They will also respond to you
in windows of 30 days, 60 days, 60-90 days etc...2-3 such windows will
make for a whole year.

While people think that contacting them has helped ( and I don't have
any proofs to the contrary ), its my belief that such approvals have zero
correlation to contacting Congressman. Again, its a hunch, no proof.

If you would ask me, I would suggest send a letter titled
"To The Director : VSC : FOR PERSONAL ATTENTION" and make a personal
appeal for his/her intervention in your case.

See if you hear something in a month or so...If you don't, I don't think
there's any way out of the imroglio.
 
Yes...why you got a problem ?

orangetreats said:
>>My 2 cents is....if you are satisfied with Excel Spreadsheets Data Entry,
>>pattern detection and arguments-exchange kinda stuff, use this forum
>>by all means; if not, I would suggest you try something entirely personally,
>>w/o any hope for help or co-operation from any of your "peers" here. Think
>>what's a logical step and pursue it entirely on your own. Your time/efforts
>>are much better spent that way.

Aha...I guess you are like one of us then....Those who "are satisfied with Excel Spreadsheets Data Entry, pattern detection and arguments-exchange kinda stuff" ... Since you are still hangin around in this forum :D

Yes..hanging around..for some people who are not blessed with illustrious
pattern-detecting leaders ....I call them my peers..maybe a very slender
minority .....have a problem with that pal ?
 
Dont I have enough

HydGuy29 said:
Man sumantha you need a find another way to get attention.

Have enough of that already. Getting envious ? I can give you some....for
free.
 
Sumanta said:
No wonder the benefits have been sheer overwhelming !

I guess so. Otherwise why is he/she hanging out in "wrong" place anyway. Define yourself before defining the forum or other forum members (with the word "leaders" or something else).
 
Sumanta said:
I can tell you from someone who has followed the route of
Congressman etc.. While there's no harm trying to contact them, I really
doubt how much mileage you will get out of it. They will also respond to you
in windows of 30 days, 60 days, 60-90 days etc...2-3 such windows will
make for a whole year.

rgtang,
it's true there is no assurance that contacting conggressman/selator will help. But why not take a chance. At also help you to know your conggressman - whether you want to vote this person when you get citizenship. Every congressman/senator office is different and they deal with these kind of issues differently. Some even don't bother to respond. It also depends on how the person contacts. I have seen some cases in this forum where their security checks were expedited or file was assigned to adjucators. I main check California forum regularly and you will find ample number of threads regarding this topic.

Person like Sumanta tries to apply his/her own experience to everyone else - as if it cannot/should not be different. As he/she himself/herself said "there's no harm trying to contact them" (just ignore his "doubt").
 
Sumanta said:
Trying to label me.

Definitely. If someone cannot justify/define his/her position (and posting non-sense always), he/she has to live up his other people's "labeling" - whatever it is.
 
RqTang....follow your judiciousness

RqTang, I guess you have seen by now what a true Tower of Babel is !
Am sure you are judicious enough to rise above the spurious noise and
decide on a pragmatic course of action.

And feel free to take the entertainment too.....look at how people almost
just can't wait to prove their mettle here. I posted my reply...and in a matter
of a few hours ( didn't even have to wait a day :) ) there was the herd
outdoing each other to prove their true colors !
 
Is your last name Bickering ?

pralay said:
Definitely. If someone cannot justify/define his/her position (and posting non-sense always), he/she has to live up his other people's "labeling" - whatever it is.

Just curious..like Thomas Pickering ? Pralay Bickering ?
Do you really think I have to depend on your labeling ? Get a life pal...
who on earth are you anyway that one has to wait for your vocabulary/
dictionary/labeling ?

My post hit you so hard, that you had to prove your mettle right away ....
Reminds me of hunters in a forest, faking beast calls....and there comes
the beast responding running right away...:)
 
Sumanta said:
look at how people almost
just can't wait to prove their mettle here. I posted my reply...and in a matter
of a few hours ( didn't even have to wait a day :) ) there was the herd
outdoing each other to prove their true colors !


:D :D yes all have their "true" colors (including you and me). Unlike you I don't hide my true color. You pretend that you are giving "good advice" (I was not first person to reply this thread, buy you), but you basically vent out your own frustration - calling other forum members "leaders", "tower of badel", ineffective forums etc. Instead of letting other people drawing his/her own conclusion about forum or forummembers, you try to "plant" your own conclusion in other people mind.
And, yes I reply posting "matter of day", because I come here regularly and don't consider it as "wrong" place.
 
Does your Dictionary have this word ?

Starts with a J, ends with a K, with an intervening E & R in between.

Wrong place or Right place, its a FUN place. Keep it up :)
 
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