How much my mom & sister should earn to meet second preference for me?

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earlfox

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My mom (48 years old), sister (18 years old) and little sister (5 years old) currently got visas by participating in DV.

As I understand if my mom's living as a permanent resident in U.S. will be successful, I will be able to apply under:
Second Preference (2A): Spouses of green card holders, unmarried children (under 21) of permanent residents
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And I found poverty guidelines requirements form (i-864p.pdf) - but I don't understand how household will be formed? I don't understand which of my sisters should be included into household, and how much my mom and my sister (both) should earn to provide me affidavit?

How long should I wait until my mom will be able to apply for my petition?
(As I understand 1 year of waiting is needed in order to provide tax return for affidavit, right?)

Please help me with your advice or links where I can find answers on my questions
 
You are under 21? Then you probably could have gotten a green card along with your sisters. Why didn't you? How long ago did they get theirs? Maybe it's not too late for you.
 
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earlfox said:
My mom (48 years old), sister (18 years old) and little sister (5 years old) currently got visas by participating in DV.

As I understand if my mom's living as a permanent resident in U.S. will be successful, I will be able to apply under:


And I found poverty guidelines requirements form (i-864p.pdf) - but I don't understand how household will be formed? I don't understand which of my sisters should be included into household, and how much my mom and my sister (both) should earn to provide me affidavit?

How long should I wait until my mom will be able to apply for my petition?
(As I understand 1 year of waiting is needed in order to provide tax return for affidavit, right?)

Please help me with your advice or links where I can find answers on my questions
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Mom should file the I-130 ASAP. There will be years to resolve the rest. Mom as petitioner MUST file an I-864 (later) even with zero income. She can have help. Household is Mom, 2 sisters and YOU (plus anybody else that falls in the guidelines). Read the I-864 instructions about household size.
 
She can have help.
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What you mean?

You are under 21? Then you probably could have gotten a green card along with your sisters. Why didn't you? How long ago did they get theirs? Maybe it's not too late for you.
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No, I am above 21 (21 plus 10 months) and I am not comply with CSPA


Mom should file the I-130 ASAP. There will be years to resolve the rest. Mom as petitioner MUST file an I-864 (later) even with zero income. She can have help. Household is Mom, 2 sisters and YOU (plus anybody else that falls in the guidelines). Read the I-864 instructions about household size.
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So she will be able to file the I-130 as soon as she will receive her Green Card & SSN, even without having either one month job experience, right?


I-130 would be unnecessary if the OP can still qualify as a derivative.
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What is OP and what is derivative? And why I-130 then is not necessary, if not I-130 what we should do then?



I found out that according to our household (4 person) my mom's income should be around $3,000 per month.
Can my 18 years old sister be as a co-sponsor? And how much Mom and sister should earn to qualify? Is $1,500 per month for Mom + $1,500 per month for sister as a co-sponsor is enough to grant me affidavit of support?
 
A sponsor on an I-864 may have a co-sponsor (another person in the household) OR a joint sponsor (outside the household) pledge financial help by filing additional affidavits of support. READ the Form Instructions!

It will take YEARS for a visa to become available for you. DO NOT WAIT.



P.S. CSPA is basically useless for a DV immigrant.
 
earlfox said:
No, I am above 21 (21 plus 10 months) and I am not comply with CSPA
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You are 21 + 10 months right now? Then you probably qualify under the CSPA. The consulate may have said you don't, but they are often very wrong when it comes to the CSPA.

How old were you when your mother originally filed the DV application? When did your mother get her immigrant visa, was it after October 1, 2010?

What is OP and what is derivative? And why I-130 then is not necessary, if not I-130 what we should do then?
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OP = original poster (the person who started the thread). Derivative is a spouse or child who joins the primary immigrant, like when your sisters were able to get green cards along with your mother. You might qualify as a derivative, depending on your answers to the questions I just asked. If you qualify you have to ACT VERY FAST, because September 30 is the deadline to complete the process including interview.


I found out that according to our household (4 person) my mom's income should be around $3,000 per month.
Can my 18 years old sister be as a co-sponsor? And how much Mom and sister should earn to qualify? Is $1,500 per month for Mom + $1,500 per month for sister as a co-sponsor is enough to grant me affidavit of support?
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If your mother files I-130 for you, she would have to provide proof of finances only at the last stage of the process, which would be 7 or more years from now. Your sister can be a joint sponsor if your mother's income is not enough.
 
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BigJoe5 said:
P.S. CSPA is basically useless for a DV immigrant.
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But it might be useful in this case. They effectively freeze the age of under-21 children as of the date the primary submits the DV entry, which would have been the end of November 2009 if his mother and sisters got visas under DV 2011. The OP was under 21 in 2009.
 
How old were you when your mother originally filed the DV application? When did your mother get her immigrant visa, was it after October 1, 2010?
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My birthdate is October 3, 1989

We filled our request to participate in DV lottery at November 2009
We received our first letter about winning in July 2010 (which was originally sent by consulate in April 2010)
Our first package - DS-230&DSP-120 forms was delivered at Septmeber 24, 2010
~At June 4, 2011 I received email from consulate about missing interview (because second letter lost in mail)
At July 8, 2011 my mom had her interview with my sisters (I was not allowed to enter building, because I was not included in the lists, at the Interview my mom and sister tried to explain to consul that I may be eligible under CSPA, but consul said to Mom that she can't do anything about it)
Our number was 235xx. On other immigration forum in Russian one experienced forum member suggested that concluding all these dates I am not comply with CSPA.

But even if that forum member who suggested that I am not comply with CSPA is wrong, then will I be able to something about it now or after my Mom's departure to U.S.?
 
Consulates are often wrongly tell people that they don't qualify under the CSPA. You were under 21 when the DV application was submitted, and you were still under 21 at the start of the fiscal year (Oct. 1, 2010). Did you fill out a DS-230 and pay the visa fee?

It's not too late to do something about it, but you have to act fast because Sept. 30 is the deadline to get everything done for DV 2011. You might need to contact a US immigration lawyer to help you convince the consulate to give you an interview.

Your mother can go ahead and travel to the US without waiting for the resolution of your case; she needs to enter the US anyway before you or at the same time as you.
 
Did you fill out a DS-230 and pay the visa fee?
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No, my mom paid ~$2500 overall


Somebody calculated on the forum my CSPA age for me, but I suppose that perhaps I should do these important calculations myself
 
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