How can my father be my sponsor ? strange GC case

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Danny10

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** Sorry for my english, I'm not fully bilingual **​

Hi all,

I need your help in this case of GC through my father.

He's U.S citizen by born abroad to U.S citizen but never lived in the U.S.A. He doesn't have a domicile in the U.S. My mother is Panamanian. My father holds panamanian nationality too. (He also holds both passports: american and panamanian)

I'm 18, single.

What my father needs for be my sponsor in this special case ?

He's working here in Panama. I know that He needs to establish a domicile in U.S. for be a petitioner but currently has no intention to live there.

For obtain a GC He needs to live with me there forcibly, right ?

If yes, then I have just 1 way for get it, convincing him for repatriate with me into the U.S. It seems like mission impossible because as I said He never lived there, He makes all his life here in Panama.


My intention of be a lawful permanent resident is principally make an University degree and maybe work in U.S, also I don't want to miss a right that belongs to me and might really help me in the future. I'm willing to leave my family as long as needed for don't lose my right.


For me is very important to say as supporting feature that I lost my opportunity of inmediately Naturalization under Section 322 somo months ago, N-600k form, because my father doesn't make for me that procedure some years before my 18th birthday. It was really hard to accept for me and my family... unfortunately the american law makes a cut-off at that age.

I'm visa holder, The consulate officer told us when I issued it last year that I should make the nationality process before 18th birthday but time passed and was not enough for finish the process.

THANKS ALL FOR TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ MY STRANGE AND SPECIAL CASE (at least for me), I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, THANKS A LOT PEOPLE!.

PS. I know that life is not based on a document, but It can help me a lot.

** Sorry for my english, I'm not fully bilingual **​
 
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I wish I knew more about family based immigration. If your father cannot sponsor you because he doesn't reside in the US it would seem you have to look into other avenues, i.e. apply for a regular student visa and eventually a work visa and hopefully and luckily a green card. I think you need to convince your father to take a sabbatical and move address to the US. I think he could still travel to Panama for business if he needs that. I don't think it would take that much to establish some sort of residency in the US.
 
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Danny10 said:
** Sorry for my english, I'm not fully bilingual **​

Hi all,

I need your help in this case of GC through my father.

He's U.S citizen by born abroad to U.S citizen but never lived in the U.S.A. He doesn't have a domicile in the U.S. My mother is Panamanian. My father holds panamanian nationality too. (He also holds both passports: american and panamanian)

I'm 18, single.

What my father needs for be my sponsor in this special case ?

He's working here in Panama. I know that He needs to establish a domicile in U.S. for be a petitioner but currently has no intention to live there.

For obtain a GC He needs to live with me there forcibly, right ?

If yes, then I have just 1 way for get it, convincing him for repatriate with me into the U.S. It seems like mission impossible because as I said He never lived there, He makes all his life here in Panama.


My intention of be a lawful permanent resident is principally make an University degree and maybe work in U.S, also I don't want to miss a right that belongs to me and might really help me in the future. I'm willing to leave my family as long as needed for don't lose my right.


For me is very important to say as supporting feature that I lost my opportunity of inmediately Naturalization under Section 322 somo months ago, N-600k form, because my father doesn't make for me that procedure some years before my 18th birthday. It was really hard to accept for me and my family... unfortunately the american law makes a cut-off at that age.

I'm visa holder, The consulate officer told us when I issued it last year that I should make the nationality process before 18th birthday but time passed and was not enough for finish the process.

THANKS ALL FOR TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ MY STRANGE AND SPECIAL CASE (at least for me), I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, THANKS A LOT PEOPLE!.

PS. I know that life is not based on a document, but It can help me a lot.

** Sorry for my english, I'm not fully bilingual **​
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It can be done but it is rather difficult especially if your father will not cooperate. Your best option may be to prove to the consular officer adjudicating the immigrant visa application that your father has the imminent intent to establish a domicile in the United States on or before the date the you admitted to the United States. The Foreign Affairs Manual allows a consular officer the right to accept an Affidavit of Support in a situation in which the consular officer finds that the US Citizen has made appropriate efforts in attempting to terminate his domicile abroad and has also made efforts to re-establish a domicile in the USA. This means your father would have to show that he intends to return to the US soon and is trying to establish domicile here, so for instance he can rent a place in the states, open a bank account, apply for jobs, look for schools for your younger siblings and the like. He also needs to show he intends to leave Panama like he can put his property up for sale , apply for immigrant visa for his wife and/or any children he will bring along and stuff like that. Now if you can show this and you are issued an immigrant visa your Father would need to come to the US even just for a short time until you receive your green card and then he can leave if he doe not wish to stay.
 
Thanks so much for response Huracan and AzBlk.

Maybe as Huracan said, I'll need to convice my dad to take a sabbatical before my 21th birthday. It seems like I'll need a lawyer advice for search ways to establish a domicile in the U.S. Maybe as AzBlk said my 56-year-old father needs to open a bank account or rent a place in the states.

I don't know if perhaps the U.S. embassy here can help him for look and search ways to re-establish a domicile in U.S.A...

Hey AzBlk just for clarification, I don't have little brothers heheh.

I'm facing an uphill battle again. It's so sad, some months ago I lost my opportunity for be naturalized immediatly and now GC obtainment seems hard too. :(

If I can't convince my dad to make efforts for re-establish his domicile in the U.S. then my unique way will be the student visa or the obtainment of a GC via lotto hahahahah.

For me, It seems really unfair and cruel that been an U.S descendent of many generations in the past I got excluded of an eventually repatriation by an easier way.

Sorry for my english guys, I hope that was understandable.
 
Hi again guys,

Please, Help me to understand the next stuff.

I have another question... If my father don't have resourses for fill an affidavit of support because He had never lived in the U.S.,
Can He just establishing a domicile in the U.S. be a petitioner of an immediate relative ?

It seems like He needs to convince the consular officer about He will make a repatriation and re-establish his life in the U.S.

I got some important info from travel.state.gov page.
When a sponsor has clearly not maintained a domicile in the United States, he/she will need to re-establish a U.S. domicile in order for him/her to be a sponsor. The sponsor may make a number of steps to show that he/she considers the United States his/her principal place of residence. Examples of things he/she can do are given below:

* Find a job in the United States
* Locate a place to live in the United States
* Register children in U.S. schools
* Make arrangements to give up (relinquish) residence abroad
* Other evidence of a U.S. residence

I understood that my dad obtains his right to be a sponsor just establishing his residence in the U.S. (like a repatriation), It's correct? or Needs He an affidavit of support or a joint sponsor for make a promotion ?
I really don't understand very well this because, as I said, my dad had never lived in the U.S. and It's very strange for me fill an Affidavit in that way.

Maybe in the U.S. Embassy here in Panama can help me with that.

What do you think about all this stuff ?

Thanks so much !


*** I hope that my post was understandable ***
 
Even if you can find a joint sponsor your father will still have to fill a affidavit of support and must meet all other domicile requirements before he can sponsor you. So like I said in the earlier post you father would have to do those things to convince the consulate that he is moving to the US for the foreseeable future and then you will need to find a co sponsor for the financial part.
 
It becomes harder if He needs to be established in the U.S. before I move there.

Take this example: If in some moment He decide to move with his family (his wife, my brother and I) to the U.S. then He has to be established in U.S.A. before make the sponsoring, right ?

He needs to have a job earning a household of 125% over the poverty line of U.S., house, bank account as mandatory before do a promotion of his immediate relative family.

If the U.S. Embassy confirm us that, It's a uphill battle.

Thanks for all AzBlk, It's a complicated case and I'll require professional help about all that involve it.
 
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Hey people !

In cases like mine (IR of a USC), when I become LPR How much time I have to wait until make the oath of allegiance for become USC ?.

3 yrs ? 10 yrs ?

Thnx in advance !
 
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