* * * How can an American work in India ?
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1amShantanuB
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- I don't wan to appear as defeater against an approved "friend"
- to use GC as "safety valve". To choose the better of both worlds
waitingforbreak
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Most Indians living here are here for their kids, and thats not such a bad thing. And most of them have plans to return to India when old age occurs. And if the dollars earned here are going to get a nice comfy life there, then why the heck not? All a man wants is a good life.
These were my original comments and I stand by them.
mango_pickle
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I agree with Shantanu. Enjoy the best of both worlds. This world has so many places to live, to travel, etc., etc.,
Can't a person like just 2 countries in this big/small world ? If I like my native country does not mean, I withdraw my 485 & go live there. The opposite is also true, just because someone becomes a PR and later a US Citizen does not mean, he has to hate his native country.
How many different cuisines does one like, definitely more than one. If you like one, does not mean, you don't eat the other. Where I live during my 30s and during my 60s is totally upto me.
Even in USA, people after retirement try settling in smaller or sparsely populated cost effective places for sake of peace. I love India and I like USA. Period.
Can't a person like just 2 countries in this big/small world ? If I like my native country does not mean, I withdraw my 485 & go live there. The opposite is also true, just because someone becomes a PR and later a US Citizen does not mean, he has to hate his native country.
How many different cuisines does one like, definitely more than one. If you like one, does not mean, you don't eat the other. Where I live during my 30s and during my 60s is totally upto me.
Even in USA, people after retirement try settling in smaller or sparsely populated cost effective places for sake of peace. I love India and I like USA. Period.
gcwaiting007
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Every country is great to her citizens. But putting up with the bueracratic(sic) hurdles of BCIS or a similar setup is mostly individual decision. It does not necessarily lower one's motherland's greatness. I am sure each person periodically evaluates the plusses and minusses of putting up with such hardships and decides whether to continue it or not. The moment the balance tilts against this hardship I am sure that individual will promptly decide to explore other avenues.
Lets say 5 years from now one becomes a US citizen and then decide for whatever personal or monetary reasons to move to some other country, does it anyway lower the greatness of America? There are others who might want to come and live here. Similarly, Indians going and living abroad should not in any way reduce the greatness of that country, because greatness is achieved by factors beyond what is being questioned here.
I think slowly we are moving towards a global village scenario, where the restrictions to come and work in a country will diminish greatly and be limited only by security concerns. Meanwhile short-sighted people make a brouhaha about visas and citizenships.
Why indians cannot take criticism?
It is kind of unfortunate that top schools didn't give you "maturity" to take in stride some criticism now and then. Isn't SM entitled to his opinion!!
There is saying in my native language which roughly translates to:
"If a dog barks, the heaven won't get spoiled".
(Nothing against you SM. Just trying to drive home a point...)
It is kind of unfortunate that top schools didn't give you "maturity" to take in stride some criticism now and then. Isn't SM entitled to his opinion!!
There is saying in my native language which roughly translates to:
"If a dog barks, the heaven won't get spoiled".
(Nothing against you SM. Just trying to drive home a point...)
the tide is slowly changing.....
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1amShantanuB got an overwhelming response (1948 posts so far) even though many on this forum don't like him
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in favour of 1amShantanuB......move across continent, to the VSC forum and see many of his postings today have many agreeing; heck, why others even I agree to many of his replies !!!
GC_Ki_Talashi
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Hi folks,
Here are my 2 cents on this issue. I totally agree with Sillyman's thoughts. Moving to another country doesn't mean you hate your motherland. If you don't like the system (or the lack of it, as someone pointed), you can hate it. But I don't understand why that makes anyone hate the country itself. I have seen enough number of people talk about how India is full of corruption and beaurocracry and these very same people go to India for a visit, and do everything they can to make the country more corrupt. For instance, bribe the TC to get a berth when they can't reserve one in advance. Can't they travel in a general compartment, however crowded it may be, just to discourage the TCs from taking bribe? I know if it is not you, someone else will bribe him and get that berth. But don't you think we should do our part to fight corruption, by doing little sacrifices of comfort like this and making it a point to make our motherland a better place. Being in the position that we are in today, there are lots of people in India who lookup to us and admire. May be little acts like this will inspire atleast one of them to stand up to fight the monster and be counted instead of just going with the flow.
Just my thought .....
Good luck,
GC_Ki_Talashi
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FP 02/21/2002
Here are my 2 cents on this issue. I totally agree with Sillyman's thoughts. Moving to another country doesn't mean you hate your motherland. If you don't like the system (or the lack of it, as someone pointed), you can hate it. But I don't understand why that makes anyone hate the country itself. I have seen enough number of people talk about how India is full of corruption and beaurocracry and these very same people go to India for a visit, and do everything they can to make the country more corrupt. For instance, bribe the TC to get a berth when they can't reserve one in advance. Can't they travel in a general compartment, however crowded it may be, just to discourage the TCs from taking bribe? I know if it is not you, someone else will bribe him and get that berth. But don't you think we should do our part to fight corruption, by doing little sacrifices of comfort like this and making it a point to make our motherland a better place. Being in the position that we are in today, there are lots of people in India who lookup to us and admire. May be little acts like this will inspire atleast one of them to stand up to fight the monster and be counted instead of just going with the flow.
Just my thought .....
Good luck,
GC_Ki_Talashi
ND 01/08/2002
FP 02/21/2002
waitingforbreak
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Well put, talashi.....have you tried travelling long distances by general? Have you seen the restroom in one??? Well I have and all I can say is NEVER AGAIN! And, one doesn't have to bribe a TC, he generally is authorised to charge us a little extra in order to get a reservation. I would rather travel RAC than go general. For the record, I have never bribed any body in India till date. And to all those who think america is bribe free, thats what you think!
gcwaiting007
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WaitingforBreak,
Corruption is there in every society and in every walk of life, the so-called bad apples. But in some countries it is a way of life. One can see it, experience it and most times somehow contribute to it in everyday routine life. Its as if the country will come to a standstill if you dont follow some corrupt practice or the other. Thats what hampers the overall development stature of that country. It does not matter how economically well-developed it gets, what really matters is the psyche or mindset of the people.
For example, yes there are bad apples in this country, but in your day to day life how many corrupt people do you come across? Does a grocery clerk usually short-change you? Does a clerk in a govt office (like DMV or SSN or Tax related offices) ask you for some cash under the table to do the job they are appointed to do? When you buy a can of homogenized (u know the high fat ones) milk do you normally find it is diluted? the list can go on but I think you get the point. Now you compare similar situations in other countries and then think why is it happening? Why do some people behave in a very matured and responsible when they are here and when they land in their country, they do things worse than the other natives?
I believe it is because there is lack of respect and lack of living- upto-certain-good-standards, and above all there is a mindset that such things are OK.
1amShantanuB
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I did not look into this part of thread
Feels good this Friday that at least some are dare and fair to accept truths
thanks guys