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Hello yah all,

I am a woman from an arab country, about 24 years old, inflicted with depression since i was 17 years old due to many reasons and causes. I need to leave my home country as soon as possible, preferably to america for i like the american way of life and wanna study there. I applied for the lottery last year and wasn't accepted and i took all the steps to travel for my M.A. degree there in NY where i was promised of a fellowship and had to cancel the visit at the last moment 4 financial reasons. I have an office in my home country but cannot work coz depression is almost killing me. You may wonder where the problem is and how u can help me. All what i want is advise about how to get to america as soon as possible whether 4 therapy (if there's an institution who take care of offering therapy 4 a lower cost there) or 4 work. I have someone over there who's ready to offer me a job but the problem is i know almost nothing about the measures that should be taken to get me there. I need to have a new life to recover away from the place that carries all my sorrows and pains. I have a bachelor's degree in english and many other skills and ready to have any job. I know i will be able to work over there coz i will get away from the source of pain that's making me ill.

Thank you and sorry 4 disturbing
 
wannatravel said:
Hello yah all,

I am a woman from an arab country, about 24 years old, inflicted with depression since i was 17 years old due to many reasons and causes. I need to leave my home country as soon as possible, preferably to america for i like the american way of life and wanna study there. I applied for the lottery last year and wasn't accepted and i took all the steps to travel for my M.A. degree there in NY where i was promised of a fellowship and had to cancel the visit at the last moment 4 financial reasons. I have an office in my home country but cannot work coz depression is almost killing me. You may wonder where the problem is and how u can help me. All what i want is advise about how to get to america as soon as possible whether 4 therapy (if there's an institution who take care of offering therapy 4 a lower cost there) or 4 work. I have someone over there who's ready to offer me a job but the problem is i know almost nothing about the measures that should be taken to get me there. I need to have a new life to recover away from the place that carries all my sorrows and pains. I have a bachelor's degree in english and many other skills and ready to have any job. I know i will be able to work over there coz i will get away from the source of pain that's making me ill.

Thank you and sorry 4 disturbing
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I dont know how you will get to USA as fast as you wish but my advise to you considering your condition, is to live with the HOPE of living and working in the USA one day. While you keep making plans to fulfill this dream. My GOD deliver you and give you your heart desire:)
 
thank u

thank u favour 1 for ur reply ... I have an offer to work for the police in one of the European countries to investigate refugees there ... I laugh a lot when I know I will have to listen to refugees' cases while I see a refugee 4 healthy causes when i look at the mirror... I know the job offer is seductive but I don't like living in Europe ... Thanks anyway
 
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thank u favour 1 for ur reply ... I have an offer to work for the police in one of the European countries to investigate refugees there ... I laugh a lot when I know I will have to listen to refugees' cases while I see a refugee 4 healthy causes when i look at the mirror... I know the job offer is seductive but I don't like living in Europe ... Thanks anyway
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If you really want to move out of your country due to your condition, l will advise you take this job and see it as a step to getting to USA. You never know where the next offer will take you to once you do well on this one. And the important thing is that it will take you out of your country and your problem:)
 
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Hi wannatravel, where are you from? and i think if you don't wannatravel to europe to live and work that means you are happy living in your arab country, millions try to go to europe and they can't make it! , so i think you should not waste this chance at least to make a change for your financial, depression situation at least temporarily till you can find a way to go to america, good luck.
 
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thanks sugar pie and favor 1, I will surely take the job if it's a true offer ... who knows? it's just one of my friends who live in Norway knew about it and talked to someone in the police about me and they didn't even send me the documents, yet ... it's a place veryyyyyyyyy close to the North Pole and too cold to live in but i will go anyway, if they chose me for the job ... I am just wondering if there's a way to go to the US if they didn't choose me ... that's all ...
 
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the matter that makes me don't take that job offer as being a serious one is that the guy says they will send me the plane ticket ... let's think of it, there are many people in Europe that speak english very well, so why bother to get someone from another country even without making sure she has the skills needed 4 the job? that's why i took it as a non-serious matter and searching 4 an alternative ... all what i hope is to get out of here soon coz i am not sure about what may happen to me with the stress i live under, 6 therapists tried to treat me but they failed coz i still live under the stress and i have some trials of suicide, that's why i am not optimistic, my illness background is not a good one at all ..
 
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If I ignore your problem, every thing in your life looks fine, as Arab Woman your problem for sure would be due to one of 3 reasons:

1- The man.
2- The family rules.
3- The surrounding community.

I believe the better decision you have to take, is to continue your life there and face the problem, you should be more strong, don't act like small candle flame in front of wind, How you leave to some place and you don't know what waiting you there? And for what purpose you will be taken? Yes think about it not once or twice.
 
thank you, favour1 , you are free to think whatever u want but it's not you or me who decide, it's a staff of 6 specialized doctors who checked me and decided ... As a canadian friend of mine always says, depression is not yet understood ... Everybody thinks it's just some sort of sadness and almost no one knows it's a chemical imbalance of the brain caused by a long history of torturing, stress and oppression ... however, i trust myself and know i will make it there soon ... It's true I'm very articulate coz depression doesn't inflict the stupid ones, they're mostly the more sensitive and the smarter ones who get it, that's what the doctors say. And, how come do you decide I do not have a problem? do u live where i live? do u know me or even anything about me? plz, save your time 4 other threads, there're other threads who need your great experience. As for Ahmed711, I would like to thank you really coz you advised me from the prespective of a brother and I do get your point and promise you i will work accoding to it , you are completely right in what you said, no one actually knows 4 what purpose i may be dragged to get to norway ... I will try to figure out if i can stay here ... I am waiting for a reply that gives me more insight about if i can get to the US soon, I know I will be ok there since I have many friends there and I do get along well with the Americans ... The point of getting to America is that being with my dearest friends and in a society whose culture i knew of will adjust my brain chemistry and make depression dormant for long years ... I can adjust it for hours with anti-depressants but the effect doesn't last for so long and the side effects are not tolerable ... thank you everybody and waiting for more replies.
 
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thank you, favour1 , you are free to think whatever u want but it's not you or me who decide, it's a staff of 6 specialized doctors who checked me and decided ... As a canadian friend of mine always says, depression is not yet understood ... Everybody thinks it's just some sort of sadness and almost no one knows it's a chemical imbalance of the brain caused by a long history of torturing, stress and oppression ... However, i trust myself and know i will make it there soon ... It's true i'm very articulate coz depression doesn't inflict the stupid ones, they're mostly the more sensitive and the smarter ones who get it, that's what the doctors say. And, how come do you decide i do not have a problem? Do u live where i live? Do u know me or even anything about me? Plz, save your time 4 other threads, there're other threads who need your great experience. As for ahmed711, i would like to thank you really coz you advised me from the prespective of a brother and i do get your point and promise you i will work accoding to it , you are completely right in what you said, no one actually knows 4 what purpose i may be dragged to get to norway ... I will try to figure out if i can stay here ... I am waiting for a reply that gives me more insight about if i can get to the us soon, i know i will be ok there since i have many friends there and i do get along well with the americans ... The point of getting to america is that being with my dearest friends and in a society whose culture i knew of will adjust my brain chemistry and make depression dormant for long years ... I can adjust it for hours with anti-depressants but the effect doesn't last for so long and the side effects are not tolerable ... Thank you everybody and waiting for more replies.
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so sorry for making you respond they way you did; it was not my intention to add to your problem. Please i am very sorry. I hope you understand. I wish you the best out of life.:)
 
wannatravel said:
thank you, favour1 , you are free to think whatever u want but it's not you or me who decide, it's a staff of 6 specialized doctors who checked me and decided ... As a canadian friend of mine always says, depression is not yet understood ... Everybody thinks it's just some sort of sadness and almost no one knows it's a chemical imbalance of the brain caused by a long history of torturing, stress and oppression ... however, i trust myself and know i will make it there soon ... It's true I'm very articulate coz depression doesn't inflict the stupid ones, they're mostly the more sensitive and the smarter ones who get it, that's what the doctors say. And, how come do you decide I do not have a problem? do u live where i live? do u know me or even anything about me? plz, save your time 4 other threads, there're other threads who need your great experience. As for Ahmed711, I would like to thank you really coz you advised me from the prespective of a brother and I do get your point and promise you i will work accoding to it , you are completely right in what you said, no one actually knows 4 what purpose i may be dragged to get to norway ... I will try to figure out if i can stay here ... I am waiting for a reply that gives me more insight about if i can get to the US soon, I know I will be ok there since I have many friends there and I do get along well with the Americans ... The point of getting to America is that being with my dearest friends and in a society whose culture i knew of will adjust my brain chemistry and make depression dormant for long years ... I can adjust it for hours with anti-depressants but the effect doesn't last for so long and the side effects are not tolerable ... thank you everybody and waiting for more replies.
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I never knew people suffering acute depression like yours could write comprehensive English sentences to the extent of making it categorically clear where they feel they can LIVE in order to cure the condition. Well ,i personally don't know how you can migrate to USA asap but i do share your plight and wish you all the best of luck in your quest to migrate to America.
 
It's ok

It's ok, Favour1, it's not your fault or mine, it's just as I've told you depression is not yet understood .. I could tolerate so easily before I get the depression ... But, I can still see you didn't mean to hurt me, thank you really ... As for the last reply, being well-educated has nothing to do with depression, that's why I can write comprehensive English sentences ... Read above to know my major was English ... And, by the way, I graduated and was one of the top students at the university though i had depression since my 2nd year at the university ... It affects the brain some other ways, like makes the memory worse and makes you sometimes forget many things and unable to concentrate ... It affects the appetite and makes sleeping disorders, so you become whether an obese person or a slim person ... sometimes I sleep for more than 16 constant hours for a period of 2 week all in a very dark room sometimes even at the basement to get away from people ... It made me hate telephones coz I do not wanna have any contact with any person here ... As for knowing where my condition could be cured, it's no wonder if one knows himself/herself and the other places, I studied the western culture in general and the american one in particular and I was chosen for the fellowship from among more than 40 students ... I know almost no one in the other countries to go to .. And, I am still a woman, an arab woman, who needs friends to support her psychologically, so if i go somewhere else in the world, I won't find someone to talk to ... most of the friends who know about my depression even since I got it are americans, so it's better being with someone who can understand me ... thanks 4 your reply though and no more discussing the problem coz it's a personal one and it does hurt me to elaborate more about it ... all what i want is IF someone can help me with a reply to as far as getting to america is concerned, he/she adds it .. I mean let's be practical coz it's not a problem discussing forum and my question was clear from the very beginning ... thanks anyway and waiting for a reply if ever there's one ...
 
same person

hey everybody,

It made it clear that Favour1 and Abeku66 are the same person .... The reply was the same telling about how I can write English well and in both cases he took the same quote before adding the reply and even the way of writing was the same, starting in each case with a capital letter. And, the most important thing is that the time between the 2 replies were just two minutes and 4 seconds, exactly the time of logging out of a user name and logging in with another user name ... I checked the profile of Favor1 and saw he added the reply (his last activity) at 07:58 A.M. and which was a sorry to make him look like an angel and me the devil and then he added the other reply under the name of Abeku66 at 8:04 A.M. to state the same reply he added b4 to make it seem to you all that more than one person shares the same opinion that I have no problem. And, I would like to tell him that my problem is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and do not bother to add anymore replies coz you are such a ....... and I am here to listen to effective replies only not to someone like you ...

waiting 4 more replies from helpful ones who do not have any sort of hatred in their hearts ..
 
wannatravel said:
Hello yah all,

All what i want is advise about how to get to america as soon as possible whether 4 therapy (if there's an institution who take care of offering therapy 4 a lower cost there) or 4 work. I have someone over there who's ready to offer me a job but the problem is i know almost nothing about the measures that should be taken to get me there.
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If you are thinking of permanently moving to the U.S. then I suggest you start by looking at the options available for attaining Lawful Permanent Residence ("Green Card")

If you are looking for a temporary stay in the U.S. then consider getting yourself a nonimmigrant visa under one of the various classes available.

Wish you the best and also a speedy recovery.
 
the first positive reply

Thank you dematra, at last i start getting effective positive replies. I do like your way in trying to help me. I can make thousands of dollars here through my own office and I live in a nice villa and have all the luxuries needed but i wanna get far away from my source of pain to a place where i have friends (the US), even if i will work in return 4 food and stay, the point is to recover.. i could bear the stress for 5 years but during the last year of the 6 years my mind surrendered, the doctors got amazed when they asked me for how long i had the symptoms, they could hardly believe i am still alive coz most of depression patients die withing a year if not months ...Thank you 4 helping me and thanks 4 understanding the main point ...
 
wannatravel said:
hey everybody,

It made it clear that Favour1 and Abeku66 are the same person .... The reply was the same telling about how I can write English well and in both cases he took the same quote before adding the reply and even the way of writing was the same, starting in each case with a capital letter. And, the most important thing is that the time between the 2 replies were just two minutes and 4 seconds, exactly the time of logging out of a user name and logging in with another user name ... I checked the profile of Favor1 and saw he added the reply (his last activity) at 07:58 A.M. and which was a sorry to make him look like an angel and me the devil and then he added the other reply under the name of Abeku66 at 8:04 A.M. to state the same reply he added b4 to make it seem to you all that more than one person shares the same opinion that I have no problem. And, I would like to tell him that my problem is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and do not bother to add anymore replies coz you are such a ....... and I am here to listen to effective replies only not to someone like you ...

waiting 4 more replies from helpful ones who do not have any sort of hatred in their hearts ..
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Please let an older member tell this my sister that Favour1 is not Abeku66. I am in Nigeria while l think Abeku66 is in London.Please let me say it again; l never intended to add to your problem and l wish you well. God bless you.
 
wannatravel said:
hey everybody,

It made it clear that Favour1 and Abeku66 are the same person .... The reply was the same telling about how I can write English well and in both cases he took the same quote before adding the reply and even the way of writing was the same, starting in each case with a capital letter. And, the most important thing is that the time between the 2 replies were just two minutes and 4 seconds, exactly the time of logging out of a user name and logging in with another user name ... I checked the profile of Favor1 and saw he added the reply (his last activity) at 07:58 A.M. and which was a sorry to make him look like an angel and me the devil and then he added the other reply under the name of Abeku66 at 8:04 A.M. to state the same reply he added b4 to make it seem to you all that more than one person shares the same opinion that I have no problem. And, I would like to tell him that my problem is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and do not bother to add anymore replies coz you are such a ....... and I am here to listen to effective replies only not to someone like you ...

waiting 4 more replies from helpful ones who do not have any sort of hatred in their hearts ..
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hey - i think you DO really have a problem.... so pessimistic
 
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