Help Need on Affidavit of Support

[c1984]

Correct. This sentence is printed on the DS-230:

"Warning: Any false statement or concealment of a material fact may result in your permanent exclusion from the United States. Even if you are issued an immigrant visa and are subsequently admitted to the United States, providing false information on this form could be grounds for your prosecution and/or deportation."

And there's not a similar warning with the online entry form...

 

[Hexa]

And there's not a similar warning with the online entry form...

That is true.

But when you entered the lottery as single yet fill out the forms as a family, you're telling the gov't that "I was lying to you, but now I'm telling the truth". Is this a strong position to argue against a permanent bar, should the CO choose to impose it? Is it an acceptable defense to say that the DV application doesn't warn you against lying?

Some officers are reasonable and lenient, others are tough and strict. The last time I was in an embassy the difference between the officer on the leftmost counter and the one on the rightmost was like night and day. The left guy was curt, unpleasant, and unbelievably paranoid. He had security bring back somebody that was leaving the compound for a baseless suspicion, arising from a simple hug between two ladies who got to know each other while waiting in line. The officer on the right was cheerful, pleasant, and even apologetic when denying a visa.

If a lying applicant gets the officer on the left, a permanent bar is likely. The guy on the right will just say sorry for disqualifying you, and politely explain why.

 

[c1984]

That is true.

But when you entered the lottery as single yet fill out the forms as a family, you're telling the gov't that "I was lying to you, but now I'm telling the truth". Is this a strong position to argue against a permanent bar, should the CO choose to impose it? Is it an acceptable defense to say that the DV application doesn't warn you against lying?

Some officers are reasonable and lenient, others are tough and strict. The last time I was in an embassy the difference between the officer on the leftmost counter and the one on the rightmost was like night and day. The left guy was curt, unpleasant, and unbelievably paranoid. He had security bring back somebody that was leaving the compound for a baseless suspicion, arising from a simple hug between two ladies who got to know each other while waiting in line. The officer on the right was cheerful, pleasant, and even apologetic when denying a visa.

If a lying applicant gets the officer on the left, a permanent bar is likely. The guy on the right will just say sorry for disqualifying you, and politely explain why.

How about "I made a mistake, but now I'm correcting it"?

What would the person gain by claiming to be single while being married. Why would the officer choose to think it was a LIIIIEEEEE over an innocent mistake that only should be dealt with by disqualification?

Maybe in Nazi Germany.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I agree with that, but that was not the point of the discussion.

The hypothetical situation was that a married person had mistakenly entered the lottery as single, then fills out DSP-122 and DS-230 truthfully as married and shows up at the interview as married.

Hexa was proposing that this could end up in a permanent ban.

I disagree with him there. I think as long as you are truthful in the official forms DSP-122 and DS-230 or when making sworn statements at the interview, there is no way you can be permanently banned jut based on the online entry form.

Similar situation with the other thread.

Ok, I may have confused this with the question about entering as single and then also applying as single hoping to bring the family to the US later (.I lose track sometimes....) So ok I don't think a permanent ban then, but the person will be disqualified and not get their visa.

 

[Hexa]

How about "I made a mistake, but now I'm correcting it"?

What would the person gain by claiming to be single while being married. Why would the officer choose to think it was a LIIIIEEEEE over an innocent mistake that only should be dealt with by disqualification?

Maybe in Nazi Germany.

We filled out the same DV form and read the same instruction, yes? If somebody doesn't include his step children from a previous marriage that won't immigrate with the applicant, then the CO can believe it's an honest mistake. If somebody doesn't include his wife...

I actually agree with you that disqualification is enough punishment for anybody stupid enough to enter DV as single while married. The thing is, I'm not a consular officer. By law a CO is justified in applying a permanent bar when he discovers that a visa applicant is "willfully misrepresenting a material fact" at any point during the process. The law doesn't say that the misrepresentation has to be made under oath.

 

[Sm1smom]

now, i got the idea why had you written the words"hijacking others threads".i am really sorry mr. Sm1smom to say that i am browsing through mobile and had tried a lot to do as you said.i would be cleared if you had clearified the way of using threads before.i wanted to do as you said but happened others which was not my intension to hijack other threads.i am really sorry as you were a right person.i equally give priority to your views as well.
i am cleared on my question as it is a immigration fraud.i will suggest him/her through post that never try to cheat the USA(or to leave the DV process right now) if you want to enter USA by others process in your life time.

Misunderstanding all cleared up! No worries oskarson, you and I are good