Help! Is that an issue with my naturalization case?

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daradala

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So i had my naturalization interview today.

I got my green card through my parents' investment immigration, and I was applying through marriage to US citizen for 3 years. I brought a lot of document to support my marital union. The interviewer did not look at any of those documents.

Instead, the interviewer ask what my parents are doing and if they are living in US. The interviewer also asked why my parents are not applying for naturalization but only me...

I said they travel in between countries b/c their business is mainly in their original country, but they are thinking about investing in US. The interviewer was more interested in my parents then my husband which i don't understand, i thought this is my case but not my parents' case.

She also said I was caught bring agriculture goods into the U.S back in 2007.

I was still an student with my F-1 visa when such situation happened back in 2007, I did not have my green card at the time and it was more than 5 years ago. I only have my green card for a little bit over 3 years. I told the interviewer the truth that I brought ramen that says "chicken" on them, and I was under 21 years old, so they just fine me 200 dollars and let me leave at the time.

I didn't think this is a big issue but apparently it showed up on my files as trying to bring agriculture goods into the country...

At the end of interview, I signed all the document, and I received N-652 checked "You passsed the tests of English and U.S. history and government"

as well as "please follow the instruction on Form N-14".

On form n-14, it says no further action on my part is required at this time. Upon receipt of the below checked boxes, your application can be acted upon:
Checked, Other: file review.

I wasn't recommended for approval.

Is that any big issue on my case that I would be denied? I thought it would be ridiculous if i got denied...
 
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Updates: I just checked my case status, it changed to "Request for Evidence", but the officer told me no further action is needed, I just need to wait when she gave me N-14. I am confused...
 
That's because you were a beneficiary of your parent's petition on which they claimed to be investors. Now the officer wants to make sure that is indeed the case.

I do not believe for a second, having travelled abroad dosens of times with my GC, that they would fine you for somethign as simple as ramen. First, you'd be inspected by "bigle brigade". Than, they would look at customs declaration and send you for secondary inspection if there is something else. Customs know that people forget about things they have, or think it is not important, or do not understand customs declaration.

So the very fact that not only were you cought, but also fined, leads me to think that there is more than what you are telling here.

All in all, it may not be anything significant. Just sit tight and wait.
 
daradala said:
The interviewer was more interested in my parents then my husband which i don't understand, i thought this is my case but not my parents' case.
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Since you got your green card through your parent's immigration, if your parents improperly obtained their green cards then your naturalization would be in jeopardy (and possibly also your green card) because that would mean you shouldn't have been granted a green card in the first place. If they received EB5 investor green cards, they should have already invested the required amount in the US and satisfied the other relevant conditions; they shouldn't be merely "thinking about" investing in the US unless they already invested enough to satisfy the requirements of the green card.
 
AEZ said:
That's because you were a beneficiary of your parent's petition on which they claimed to be investors. Now the officer wants to make sure that is indeed the case.

I do not believe for a second, having travelled abroad dosens of times with my GC, that they would fine you for somethign as simple as ramen. First, you'd be inspected by "bigle brigade". Than, they would look at customs declaration and send you for secondary inspection if there is something else. Customs know that people forget about things they have, or think it is not important, or do not understand customs declaration.

So the very fact that not only were you cought, but also fined, leads me to think that there is more than what you are telling here.

All in all, it may not be anything significant. Just sit tight and wait.
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I think it is ridiculous that they fine me as well, I have travelled in and out of country so many times and this is the only time it causes issues. When interviewer brought it up, I had to recall my memory, I was like " what??!!"
Well honestly mostly I brought it is mainly ramen, it is in other language that they do not recognize, so they read the ingredient label which has English, use chicken and veggie as ingredients... Not the ramen sold in US, it is the fancy ramen that actually taste good from out of country, that is why I brought some! nothing really significant like raw meat or fresh veggie, I really think it is not a big deal at the time. They didn't arrest me or anything, just ask me to sign a paper and fine me and let me leave, I was too tired of arguing so I just gave them 200 dollars and left. Imaging traveling for over 20 hrs transferring in between airports.
 
Jackolantern said:
Since you got your green card through your parent's immigration, if your parents improperly obtained their green cards then your naturalization would be in jeopardy (and possibly also your green card) because that would mean you shouldn't have been granted a green card in the first place. If they received EB5 investor green cards, they should have already invested the required amount in the US and satisfied the other relevant conditions; they shouldn't be merely "thinking about" investing in the US unless they already invested enough to satisfy the requirements of the green card.
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Ok maybe I made a mistake here. EB-5 investment is really giving money to a company acquire for certain shares of the partnership and forget about it, the layer will deal with the rest, in my mind, it is more like "buying a green card", bc the family is not quite involved. The exact word I said to officer is "they are thinking about investing in the real estate market here".

First of all, regarding EB5, my parents has been invested for over 5 years, and by law, they should get the investment back. There are delays between communication in between layers in US, layer back in their country, so I don't really know what is going on. If the layer in US already acquire the money back, then there won't be any investment.

Second, the eb5 green card investment is real, the company they invested in to acquire green card is profiting, created enough employment, and we have removed our condition and got the actual permanent GC. If there is any issue, it should come up at that time couple years ago when we apply to remove GC conditions. If there weren't any issue couple years ago, why there will be today? I mean if me got 200 dollar fine 6 years ago wasn't an issue when we apply to remove condition couple years ago, why did it came up today? It is not a criminal charge against me nor an arrest.

Third I have been married to a US citizen for more than 3 years, and the marriage is real.

I don't have any other moral issues, I have been a good resident since I arrived in US. I just can't think of a reason they will deny me.
 
When you apply for naturalization, they spend a lot more time digging through your immigration history and criminal record than when you arrive at the airport or apply to extend your green card. That's why something from your past can suddenly come to haunt you for the first time when you apply for naturalization, even though it wasn't an issue when you were traveling back and forth for years and applying to remove conditions.

I have no idea of the facts behind your parents' green cards; I was only explaining that if the interviewer suspects something is wrong with how they obtained their cards, that affects your card because yours is derivative to theirs. If everything was totally legitimate with their green cards, the interviewer will realize that after examining their files and your naturalization will be approved.
 
daradala said:
I think it is ridiculous that they fine me as well, I have travelled in and out of country so many times and this is the only time it causes issues. When interviewer brought it up, I had to recall my memory, I was like " what??!!"
Well honestly mostly I brought it is mainly ramen, it is in other language that they do not recognize, so they read the ingredient label which has English, use chicken and veggie as ingredients... Not the ramen sold in US, it is the fancy ramen that actually taste good from out of country, that is why I brought some! nothing really significant like raw meat or fresh veggie, I really think it is not a big deal at the time. They didn't arrest me or anything, just ask me to sign a paper and fine me and let me leave, I was too tired of arguing so I just gave them 200 dollars and left. Imaging traveling for over 20 hrs transferring in between airports.
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Still, you are not telling the truth. If it was in sealed package, nobody would even ask you anything. I brought caviar, roe, honey all in sealed factory containers and noone ever questioned anything. Ramen? Pu-h-lease!
 
True. Packaged Ramen can't have been a problem. I mean, MAYBE it was a specific type with pieces of chicken, or something.
 
AEZ said:
Still, you are not telling the truth. If it was in sealed package, nobody would even ask you anything. I brought caviar, roe, honey all in sealed factory containers and noone ever questioned anything. Ramen? Pu-h-lease!
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Well believe it or not i am telling the truth. B/C it is in sealed package that they couldn't figure out what exactly it is in it, i guess they can feel something else rather than the noodle? There were multiple ingredient package in the ramen noodle b/c it is not the ORDINARY RAMEN THAT SOLD IN THE US! And there isn't any english on the package except for the ingredients, so they read the ingredients and decided to fine me. It was more than 6 years ago that my memory is fading, I didn't think it is a big deal, this is all i can remember. i have been bringing lots of sealed package into US and it was the ONLY time that causes me problem (It wasn't even a problem to me at the time, just like you throw trash on the road and got fine 50 dollars or something insignificant like that). Maybe I was just unlucky or different custom dealt with things differently, but I am NOT lying here, all i told is the TRUTH!!
 
PS. I was UNDER 21 years old came into US with my student F-1 visa at the time. It was not until 2 years later that I got my GC.
 
AEZ said:
Still, you are not telling the truth. If it was in sealed package, nobody would even ask you anything. I brought caviar, roe, honey all in sealed factory containers and noone ever questioned anything. Ramen? Pu-h-lease!
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Something is missing here. If me "bringing agriculture products into US" was a big issue, they would DENY my GC when I applied to remove my GC condition or NOT even grant me a GC at the first place. (I got my condition GC AFTER this was happened, as I said back in 2007 I was holding F-1 NON-IMMIGRANT STUDENT VISA) If they need to reverified, they would told me at the naturalization interview that I need to provide police document or whatever to show that there wasn't any charge against me or anything. However, nothing was really requested at the interview, and the result form the officer gave me did not require any action from my side and she specific told me that NO action is needed from me at this point and I should be expecting answer in 1 or 2 month.
 
I think they will approve you. They will request for an evidence. As long as you can provide them with what they request. You will be fine.
 
wife has 10 greencard, but has mislead me. sorry this is a question

I thought I inter into a good faith marriage, but feel now it's all been a fraud. the last 3 years has been tough, but all marriages has its ups and downs. We move back to China so we could get back on our feet. We packed everything and left the USA. This is well documented. Of course , she needed to go back every few months because of green card[she has a 10 yr.]. She pulled a stunt last year and went to Hawaii. She claimed medical problems. After much talking she came back home [here in China] . Then , of course she had to leave again, and things seemed to be fine and we made plans about what was going to happen over the next 2-3 months. I needed to leave China to do my visa again , we were together and things going well.I came back to China and she was to be back soon after. Everyday talking online...always I love you talk, etc. Then out of the blue she left were she was...and now talking divorce and such...What actions can I take ? our home is here for the past 3 yrs. which can be proven through photos and her family members who have helped us a lot here. If worst comes to worst, what can I do about revoking her green card and her have her deported ? thanks, mislead
 
mislead said:
If worst comes to worst, what can I do about revoking her green card and her have her deported ?
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Nothing. They will not revoke her card for a sham marriage. She has a 10-year card, and even moved out of the US with you. A failed or failing marriage doesn't mean the marriage was a sham just to get a green card.

If they take away her card, it would be for spending too much time outside the US, not the marriage.
 
I never got any letter for requesting evidence, 1 week after my interview, status change to they have received RFE response and my case was processing. A week after that, which is today, the online status changed again, I've been scheduled for oath :D
 
daradala said:
I never got any letter for requesting evidence, 1 week after my interview, status change to they have received RFE response and my case was processing. A week after that, which is today, the online status changed again, I've been scheduled for oath :D
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I am really glad for you. Congrats!
 
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