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I recently got my gc through asylum about a month ago. Now I am wondering which travel document to apply, RTD or Re-entry. My goal is to travel to France and England. However, the last time I checked with the French embassy, I was told that they do not accept RTD unless it is marked permanent resident inside. Does GC holders RTD contain the word permanent resident inside? or it is the Re-entry that has such memtion. Please help me or share your experience for those who have applied and traveled with a re-entry permit or RTD after GC approval(asylum based) for a short period of less than 4 months. Your help will be appreciated.

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You may apply for a reentry Permit(Good for 2 years) as a result of your PR status and this allows you to stay outside the US as long as your permit is good.But with this, you need a visa to go to Germany.You may also apply for a RTD which is gonna be Resident(No more Asylee).Whith this,you will continue to go to Germany with out visa.This is good for 1 year and allows you to stay outside the country as long as is still good.But You're gonna pay the same money( Reentry Permit or RTD).Now the choice is yours.Good luck.
 
gc_chitown said:
I recently got my gc through asylum about a month ago. Now I am wondering which travel document to apply, RTD or Re-entry. My goal is to travel to France and England. However, the last time I checked with the French embassy, I was told that they do not accept RTD unless it is marked permanent resident inside. Does GC holders RTD contain the word permanent resident inside? or it is the Re-entry that has such memtion. Please help me or share your experience for those who have applied and traveled with a re-entry permit or RTD after GC approval(asylum based) for a short period of less than 4 months. Your help will be appreciated.

Sincerely
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Ok , ""they do not accept RTD unless it is marked permanent resident inside"".
You may ask at local IOffice to "stamp" GC on RTD i think.I know , that it is easy to get this GC stamp on even expired national passport . I mean it should be much easy to get same stamp on RTD.
Anyway Im just gessing.......double check with French embassy if that stamp will works on RTD , ask for some kind of paper proofment , so you can show
at franch board.
 
gc_chitown said:
I recently got my gc through asylum about a month ago. Now I am wondering which travel document to apply, RTD or Re-entry. My goal is to travel to France and England. However, the last time I checked with the French embassy, I was told that they do not accept RTD unless it is marked permanent resident inside. Does GC holders RTD contain the word permanent resident inside? or it is the Re-entry that has such memtion. Please help me or share your experience for those who have applied and traveled with a re-entry permit or RTD after GC approval(asylum based) for a short period of less than 4 months. Your help will be appreciated.

Sincerely
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The France consulate was bullsh**ting,what they are asking you is not even making any sence, because how can the INS put permanent resident code on your RTD, because once you become a permanent resident , you no longer even need the RTD. I myself is an asylum (from china) , 3 years ago I went to Paris with my refugee travel documents. I just simple went to the France consulate in Los Angeles and provided some other documents such as bank statements, etc, and 2 weeks later I got the Visa. If you already have your GC, and you won't be out of the country for long, you don't need any permit to come back in. It doesn't matter how long you've had your GC, doesn't matter you just got it a few months ago, it's all the same.
 
mzoo_127 said:
The France consulate was bullsh**ting,what they are asking you is not even making any sence, because how can the INS put permanent resident code on your RTD, because once you become a permanent resident , you no longer even need the RTD. I myself is an asylum (from china) , 3 years ago I went to Paris with my refugee travel documents. I just simple went to the France consulate in Los Angeles and provided some other documents such as bank statements, etc, and 2 weeks later I got the Visa. If you already have your GC, and you won't be out of the country for long, you don't need any permit to come back in. It doesn't matter how long you've had your GC, doesn't matter you just got it a few months ago, it's all the same.
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mzoo_127, what did you use as a travel doct? RTD, Re-entry permit or NP? your reply will be much appreciated.
 
newasylee said:
mzoo_127, what did you use as a travel doct? RTD, Re-entry permit or NP? your reply will be much appreciated.
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3 years ago I used Refugee Travel Document to get the visa from the France Consulate General. Since you already have a GC ( I assume your home Country is not France), you only need the GC to apply for the visa.
 
Schengen countries accept refugee travel documents even if you are still an asylee (and don't have green card).

The 15 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden.

For example, if for some reason France does not accept your travel document, go to the Italian, German or Spanish Embassy and get the visa.

Schengen visas are good for all the countries listed above. For more information, please see the following link:

http://www.eurovisa.info/SchengenCountries.htm
 
mzoo_127 said:
3 years ago I used Refugee Travel Document to get the visa from the France Consulate General. Since you already have a GC ( I assume your home Country is not France), you only need the GC to apply for the visa.
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I think france changed that requirement but i may be wrong. However during Early 2004, I could only only find a ticket to Germany through France and I was very nervous about it. I landed in France and the officer didn't ask for a visa when I told him Germany doesn't require a visa. They let me go without any problem and I did go visit the Eiffel tower before catching my plane to germany.

Once you get in europe, you will be amazed how much respect a United States of America issued document has. Once you are in U.S and go to these embassies, they treat Asylees like shit and ask for insurance, work papers, return ticket blah blah blah blah blah....and french embassy even insults you by saying they dont issue a visa on the RTD....

Point is, what is said here at embassies and what is said in the actual country is totally different...If you are from a muslim country, you all know that you need a Transit Visa no matter what..however when you get to the transit visa country airport, no one looks at to see if you have a Transit Visa...

If you are travelling to Europe, Get to germany and then buy a ticket to anywhere in europe...everything is domestic then on...And if a cop asks you about your passport, show it with pride. YOu have an entry stamp through Germany..so do not worry!!!
 
I didn't know that you don't need a visa when you go to Germany, isn't it suppose to be the same requirement as other Schenge countries, unless your nationality is already not required a visa?
 
Yep.This is my experience.Last year,I went to the Franch consulate with my RTD marked asylee.The french told me they can't issue the visa because since I don't have a GC,I'm not 100 percent legal.I went to the German consulate to buy a $10 visa waiver certificate.Since my RTD was going to expire in 3 months,the german told me that I couldn't travel to Germany since my document was not good for a least 4 months.Well,guys I was like a crazy stupid bullshit man here in New York city.And then,I went to the Britain consulate where I got a 6 months visa in 45 minutes.I flew with american airlines to London.They took my fingerprints and picture at London heathrow airport.As an asylee,men they treated me like fuckin' damn.Waist me about 45 minutes and then ask me to show them my money.Fortunaly,I displayed my $10,000 cash I had all around my pokets.Then,this bitch officer went crazy and let me go.I stayed in London for 5 days and from there,flew to Germany.No problem at Cologn/Bonn airport.I was treated like Bush's son.Stayed in germany for a week and traveled by train to Paris.No problem.On the train,4 french police officers got into my car and asked me where I was travelling from.I repplied in english'' Frankfurt'' and asked me if I was a US soldier based in Germany and willing to visit Paris.My answers: Yes sir.And then,they left.I spent 2 weeks in France.On my way back home,I took the Eurostar train from Paris Gare du Nord to London,for my airplane to New York.At Gare du Nord,there is checking since England is not member of shengen.The french officer asked me again If I was a us soldier.I said yes and they told me you need a visa next time to get out of France from Gare du nord or any French airport to go back to the US.Or you will have to get out from your main entrance which was Germany.But they let me go any way with lof of respect.Now,I'm a US Permanent resident and in 2009,a Us citizen.Once I get my citizenship,I will be an Hustler on those europeans.
 
haha, what a great experience, so basically you had no Schengen visa at all while u traveled to Germany and France? and they didn't even check anything?
 
mzoo_127 said:
haha, what a great experience, so basically you had no Schengen visa at all while u traveled to Germany and France? and they didn't even check anything?
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YOU dont need a visa to visit germany if you have a RTD...no matter if you are any citizen of any country.
 
To MZoo

I had no shengen visa.The only visa I had was a Britain visa.I got my RTD stamped in Germany since there is no visa for germany if travelling with the RTD,document mistreated by fuckin' french autorities in USA.How come the french can't accept this important document recognized worldwide.How come the french don't want to recognize this sweet document while a powerfull country like Germany treates us as US citizens with the same document.How come the french autorities in US believe that being asylee is being illegal in US.Guys, this is a crap.
 
wantmygcnow said:
YOU dont need a visa to visit germany if you have a RTD...no matter if you are any citizen of any country.
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wantmygcnow, what about if you have GC, do u need visa to go to Germany? I searched the German consulate website and couldn't find anywhere says u don't need a visa to go there if you have RTD, nor GC.
 
Just to add one thing (and the German Embassy in Washington D.C. confirmed this):

If you have a Refugee Travel Document, you do not need a visa for Germany for up to 60 days of stay.

If you have a Re-Entry Permit and Green Card, you DO need a visa (transit or not). I think the Germans got it wrong, but hey, it worked for me... :-)
 
mzoo_127 said:
wantmygcnow, what about if you have GC, do u need visa to go to Germany? I searched the German consulate website and couldn't find anywhere says u don't need a visa to go there if you have RTD, nor GC.
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Mzoo, Cadel confirmed it but here it goes again;

if you have RTD(refugee travel document) and no matter if you have GC or not, You DO NOT need a visa.

If you have a Rentry Permit, You need a Visa. By the way, Rentry Permit can only be obtained if you have a GC in hand or you are approved for I-485.

Refugee Travel Document & Rentry Permits are both same looking documents. Both are Green in color but RTD has 1 year validity date and it says (Refugee Travel Document) right above your picture, Rentry Permit is the same document with 2 year validity date and it says Rentry Permit right above the picture.

If you have a GC in hand, you can get a Rentry permit and travel but you would need a Visa to germany, but the plus point is, its valid for 2 years(the passport is) so you save your 170 bucks and don't have to wait forever to get something to travel.

Hope this clears it up.

And cadel, Germans did not get it wrong. Reason for this is because Rentry Permit is used for people who want to go out of the country for more than 6 months or upto 2 years due to some reasons. If Germans allowed Rentry Permit holders to enter without a Visa, they could stay for 2 years...

RTD holders are poor souls who don't have a country and are always temporary wherever they go so its german way of saying "Where will you go?, you are a refugee silly"...And also the fact that there are millions of Rentry permit holders and maybe 1 million of poor refugees/asylees....
 
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wantmygcnow said:
Mzoo, Cadel confirmed it but here it goes again;

if you have RTD(refugee travel document) and no matter if you have GC or not, You DO NOT need a visa.

If you have a Rentry Permit, You need a Visa. By the way, Rentry Permit can only be obtained if you have a GC in hand or you are approved for I-485.

Refugee Travel Document & Rentry Permits are both same looking documents. Both are Green in color but RTD has 1 year validity date and it says (Refugee Travel Document) right above your picture, Rentry Permit is the same document with 2 year validity date and it says Rentry Permit right above the picture.

If you have a GC in hand, you can get a Rentry permit and travel but you would need a Visa to germany, but the plus point is, its valid for 2 years(the passport is) so you save your 170 bucks and don't have to wait forever to get something to travel.

Hope this clears it up.

And cadel, Germans did not get it wrong. Reason for this is because Rentry Permit is used for people who want to go out of the country for more than 6 months or upto 2 years due to some reasons. If Germans allowed Rentry Permit holders to enter without a Visa, they could stay for 2 years...

RTD holders are poor souls who don't have a country and are always temporary wherever they go so its german way of saying "Where will you go?, you are a refugee silly"...And also the fact that there are millions of Rentry permit holders and maybe 1 million of poor refugees/asylees....
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wantmygcnow, just curious, how do you know so many things? INS should totally hire you when you become a citizen, and then you can kick some of their a** back!!!!!
 
If you have a GC,and want to go to Germany,this is what happens:

1- Use your National Passport with your GC,you need a visa to go to Germany.
2-Use a Reentry permit with your GC,you need a vis to go to Germany.
3-Use your RTD marked Permanent Resident with your GC,you don't need a visa to go to Germany.

Note:You are a permanent resident as a result of a refugee/asylee,you may apply for RTD.But your document will be marked Permanent Resident instead of asylee(See category).But above your Photo,you can read''Refugee Travel Document''.
As a Permanent resident,you may also apply for a reentry permit.The difference here,is you read above your photo,Reentry Permit and the document is valid for 2 years while RTD is good for 1 year.
As a permanent resident,you may also use your national passport.
 
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