My wife got EAD with me. She applied Social Security Number to SSN office, Raleigh, NC on 3/27. Then the office told us it would be take at least 2 month to get a SSN because they need the EAD checking to INS. I can not understand their processing because she already got EAD from INS. My wife wants to get a job ASAP but she can not apply any job without SSN number. Is their processing normal? Any person with similiar case? Just waiting? Please advice.
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Got EAD but not SSN over 1 month.
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NJ485FILER
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Do we need to get the SSN?
My wife received EAD and wants to work. What should we do? Should be apply for SSN? Is it mandatory in order to work or she can just work on EAD? Any inputs are highly appreciated?
My wife received EAD and wants to work. What should we do? Should be apply for SSN? Is it mandatory in order to work or she can just work on EAD? Any inputs are highly appreciated?
You may call ssa
They may be able to give you the number over the phone, if it is already assigned, but pending some validation. I have not tried this, but when I got my number I was able to call them just a few days after applying and get the number over the phone. However, my case was not exactly the same as yours.
My 2 cents.
They may be able to give you the number over the phone, if it is already assigned, but pending some validation. I have not tried this, but when I got my number I was able to call them just a few days after applying and get the number over the phone. However, my case was not exactly the same as yours.
My 2 cents.
armourofgod
Registered Users (C)
Apply for SSN and ur wife can start working .....
I guess Employers will not willing to hire my wife without SSN.
Thank you guys for advising.
Without SSN, they can not report TAX so they will not want the case.It\'s my assumption. Is it mandantory to fill employee\'s SSN out on hiring time? Or I have no idea whether we can use alien number of I-140 or not.
Thank you guys for advising.
Without SSN, they can not report TAX so they will not want the case.It\'s my assumption. Is it mandantory to fill employee\'s SSN out on hiring time? Or I have no idea whether we can use alien number of I-140 or not.
Ken Hamilton
Member
I\'m waiting too.
I have a teaching job lined up to start in July so I can wait for the SSN. I applied in early April. They told me at least a month before they hear back from INS.
However, it is ridiculous that I wait all this time to get my EAD and then they find another way to make you wait.
I have a teaching job lined up to start in July so I can wait for the SSN. I applied in early April. They told me at least a month before they hear back from INS.
However, it is ridiculous that I wait all this time to get my EAD and then they find another way to make you wait.
TensedAlways
Registered Users (C)
Wanted to know
whether once we apply for ssn and suppose we do not work .does it mean that we have to use AP while coming back.
as i was thinking to apply for my wifes ssn as we have just got our interim EAD.we dont have an ap.of course if one she starts working i will apply for her ap.
whether once we apply for ssn and suppose we do not work .does it mean that we have to use AP while coming back.
as i was thinking to apply for my wifes ssn as we have just got our interim EAD.we dont have an ap.of course if one she starts working i will apply for her ap.
TensedAlways
Registered Users (C)
Can start working without ssn no as on ssa website
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin...nl_JnBfc29ydF9ieT1kZmx0JnBfcGFnZT02&p_li=
Do legal aliens need a Social Security number to work?
Question We are a company who is hiring legal aliens without Social Security numbers. Do they need a number to work, or just a work permit? Answer You are required to get each employee\'s name and Social Security number and to enter them on Form W-2. (This requirement also applies to resident and nonresident alien employees.)
You should ask your employee to show you his or her social security card. The employee is required to show the card, if available. You may, but are not required to, photocopy the social security card if the employee provides it. If you do not provide the correct employee name and SSN on Form W-2, you may owe a penalty to the IRS.
Any employee without a social security card can get one by completing Form SS-5, Application for a Social Security Card. You can get this form at Social Security Administration (SSA) offices or by calling 1-800-772-1213. The employee must complete and sign Form SS-5; it cannot be filed by the employer. If your employee applied for an SSN but does not have it when you must file Form W-2, enter "Applied for" on the form. When the employee receives the SSN, file Form W-2c, Corrected Wage and Tax Statement, to show the employee\'s SSN.
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin...nl_JnBfc29ydF9ieT1kZmx0JnBfcGFnZT02&p_li=
Do legal aliens need a Social Security number to work?
Question We are a company who is hiring legal aliens without Social Security numbers. Do they need a number to work, or just a work permit? Answer You are required to get each employee\'s name and Social Security number and to enter them on Form W-2. (This requirement also applies to resident and nonresident alien employees.)
You should ask your employee to show you his or her social security card. The employee is required to show the card, if available. You may, but are not required to, photocopy the social security card if the employee provides it. If you do not provide the correct employee name and SSN on Form W-2, you may owe a penalty to the IRS.
Any employee without a social security card can get one by completing Form SS-5, Application for a Social Security Card. You can get this form at Social Security Administration (SSA) offices or by calling 1-800-772-1213. The employee must complete and sign Form SS-5; it cannot be filed by the employer. If your employee applied for an SSN but does not have it when you must file Form W-2, enter "Applied for" on the form. When the employee receives the SSN, file Form W-2c, Corrected Wage and Tax Statement, to show the employee\'s SSN.
SSN normally takes anything between 2 weeks to 2 months
So just relax. Spouse here got it after 62 days whereas a friend\'s wife got it in about 15 days.
Most employers require an SSN before they take in some one.
In case U find somebody willing to take her in without it, consider yourself lucky.
Good Luck
So just relax. Spouse here got it after 62 days whereas a friend\'s wife got it in about 15 days.
Most employers require an SSN before they take in some one.
In case U find somebody willing to take her in without it, consider yourself lucky.
Good Luck
Ken Hamilton
Member
Update - SSN received
Don\'t have the card yet; but I called 1-800-772-1213 and they gave me the number over the phone. Said I should have the card in a few days.
I applied on April 16th in North Carolina. 10 days ago they told me they were still awaiting clearance from INS.
Don\'t have the card yet; but I called 1-800-772-1213 and they gave me the number over the phone. Said I should have the card in a few days.
I applied on April 16th in North Carolina. 10 days ago they told me they were still awaiting clearance from INS.
tobeornottobe
Registered Users (C)
more than three months for SSN
Its three months and my wife is still waiting for SSN
We keep calling and stay on top of it - But no use.
Its three months and my wife is still waiting for SSN
We keep calling and stay on top of it - But no use.
tobeornottobe
Registered Users (C)
FYI - FGot the SSN number over the phone
Applied on Feb 15th and after repeated attempts and calls to local SSA office finally got it today over the phone.
This is just an FYI to estimate the amount ot wait time.
Guys, as soon as you get ur EAD apply for SSN for your spouse.
Applied on Feb 15th and after repeated attempts and calls to local SSA office finally got it today over the phone.
This is just an FYI to estimate the amount ot wait time.
Guys, as soon as you get ur EAD apply for SSN for your spouse.
TensedAlways
Registered Users (C)
here is where the timeframe varies for different people
Social Security Number Processing Procedures & Times
* At the recent AILA Liaison Meeting, Social Security Administration disclosed why the issuance of Social Security Numbers takes a short time for some people, while it takes a long time for others. This discussion is limited to those aliens who are eligible for a social security number.
* Basically, it is affected by the two factors: One is when he/she was admitted to the U.S., and the other is whether or not the INS opened a file and created "A" number for the alien. Let\'s find out how these two factors affect the processing procedures and processing times.
* Impact of "A" number: The INS Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program has injformation for over 25 million aliens with "A" numbers and their information can be verified on-line fairly quickly without direct involvement of the INS verification.
* Impact of "When Admitted to the U.S.": The longer the alien was admitted to the U.S., the government has sufficient time to enter their data into the INS system and the INS verification is available electronically or manually (written communication). Combination of these two factors produces the following different procedures and processing times:
* (1) There is "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. 30 days or longer: The SSA queries the SAVE online database at the time the application is received. (a) If the status is verified online, the SSN is processed immediately. In this case, the card is issued in about 2 weeks. (b) If the status fails to verify online, SSA manually request the INS to verify status. Because of the period of time the alien has been in the U.S., however, the alien\'s information is developed in the INS System and the INS can verify the status in this case. However, since it is handled manually (written communication), it takes longer. Until responses are received from the INS, the SSN application remains on hold. Thus in this case, processing times take longer, approximately 6 weeks.
* (2) There is no "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. 30 days or longer: In this case, the INS SAVE online verification system is not available and the SSA has to request manually the INS to verify the status just like the foregoing explanation in (b). It usually takes approximately 6 weeks.
* (3) There is no "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. less than 30 days: In this case, the INS did not have sufficient time to develop the data in its system and SSA has to rely on its own visual examination of the documents. (a) If the INS documents which the alien submitted appears valid on visual examination, SSA processes the SSN application immediately. It thus usually takes about 2 weeks just as the situation in foregoing discussion in (1)(a) above. (b) If the document does not appear valid based on the visual examination, the SSA requests manually INS to verify the documents. Since it is handled in written communication between the two agencies, it takes time just as (1)(b) above.
* It is hoped that this information helps the work authorized aliens to understand better the processing procedure and processing times for his/her case and prepare him/herself to deal with the delays in obtaining the SSN in certain circumstances.
* One good news: The SSA states that the Social Security Act does not require a work-authorized person to have an SSN before commencing employment, and if the employer is satisfied that the individual has permission to work, then the alien can be placed on the payroll even if he/she does not have a SSN. In this case, the employer must have the SSN at least by the time the Form W-2 is prepared annually. It is not made clear, though, how the employer should handle tax withholding pending the issuance of SSN. Employers should contact and seek guidance from the SSA on this issue, probably through their accountants.
* Caveat: People should always confirm the SSA rules before they act on the internet information. This reporter or the Oh Law Firm will not be responsible for consequences of relying on this information.
Source of Info
http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html
Date May 31/2002
Social Security Number Processing Procedures & Times
* At the recent AILA Liaison Meeting, Social Security Administration disclosed why the issuance of Social Security Numbers takes a short time for some people, while it takes a long time for others. This discussion is limited to those aliens who are eligible for a social security number.
* Basically, it is affected by the two factors: One is when he/she was admitted to the U.S., and the other is whether or not the INS opened a file and created "A" number for the alien. Let\'s find out how these two factors affect the processing procedures and processing times.
* Impact of "A" number: The INS Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program has injformation for over 25 million aliens with "A" numbers and their information can be verified on-line fairly quickly without direct involvement of the INS verification.
* Impact of "When Admitted to the U.S.": The longer the alien was admitted to the U.S., the government has sufficient time to enter their data into the INS system and the INS verification is available electronically or manually (written communication). Combination of these two factors produces the following different procedures and processing times:
* (1) There is "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. 30 days or longer: The SSA queries the SAVE online database at the time the application is received. (a) If the status is verified online, the SSN is processed immediately. In this case, the card is issued in about 2 weeks. (b) If the status fails to verify online, SSA manually request the INS to verify status. Because of the period of time the alien has been in the U.S., however, the alien\'s information is developed in the INS System and the INS can verify the status in this case. However, since it is handled manually (written communication), it takes longer. Until responses are received from the INS, the SSN application remains on hold. Thus in this case, processing times take longer, approximately 6 weeks.
* (2) There is no "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. 30 days or longer: In this case, the INS SAVE online verification system is not available and the SSA has to request manually the INS to verify the status just like the foregoing explanation in (b). It usually takes approximately 6 weeks.
* (3) There is no "A" Number and the alien has been in the U.S. less than 30 days: In this case, the INS did not have sufficient time to develop the data in its system and SSA has to rely on its own visual examination of the documents. (a) If the INS documents which the alien submitted appears valid on visual examination, SSA processes the SSN application immediately. It thus usually takes about 2 weeks just as the situation in foregoing discussion in (1)(a) above. (b) If the document does not appear valid based on the visual examination, the SSA requests manually INS to verify the documents. Since it is handled in written communication between the two agencies, it takes time just as (1)(b) above.
* It is hoped that this information helps the work authorized aliens to understand better the processing procedure and processing times for his/her case and prepare him/herself to deal with the delays in obtaining the SSN in certain circumstances.
* One good news: The SSA states that the Social Security Act does not require a work-authorized person to have an SSN before commencing employment, and if the employer is satisfied that the individual has permission to work, then the alien can be placed on the payroll even if he/she does not have a SSN. In this case, the employer must have the SSN at least by the time the Form W-2 is prepared annually. It is not made clear, though, how the employer should handle tax withholding pending the issuance of SSN. Employers should contact and seek guidance from the SSA on this issue, probably through their accountants.
* Caveat: People should always confirm the SSA rules before they act on the internet information. This reporter or the Oh Law Firm will not be responsible for consequences of relying on this information.
Source of Info
http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html
Date May 31/2002
Americans do not travel to india...what is going on
India - Travel Warning
May 31, 2002
This Travel Warning is being issued to alert Americans to the fact that the Department has authorized the voluntary departure of non-emergency personnel and all dependents from our Embassy and Consulates in India. This Travel Warning supersedes the Warning issued May 24, 2002.
The Department of State warns American citizens to defer travel to India. Conditions along India\'s border with Pakistan and in the state of Jammu & Kashmir have deteriorated. Tensions have risen to serious levels and the risk of intensified military hostilities between India and Pakistan cannot be ruled out.
As a result of these concerns, the Department has authorized the departure of all U.S. Government personnel in non-emergency positions and family members in India.
Americans who, despite this warning to defer travel to India, remain in India should avoid travel to all border areas between India and Pakistan including the Indian states of Gujarat, Rajasthan, and Punjab, and to the state of Jammu & Kashmir. The Indian Government has closed virtually all land and air links with Pakistan, ending travel between the two countries. Military movements continue along both the Line of Control in Kashmir and the border between India and Pakistan. Artillery firing along the Line of Control has caused death and injury in that area. Terrorist groups, some of which are linked to al-Qaida and have previously been implicated in attacks on Americans, are active there as well, and have attacked and killed civilians.
The Department of State urges American citizens currently in India to depart the country. Those who decide to remain there should carefully monitor media reports for current information on developing situations and stay in touch with the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi or the nearest U.S. Consulate General in India. U.S. citizens in India are strongly urged to register and obtain updated security information at the Embassy or the nearest Consulate. Americans may register via the Internet, in person, or by mail or fax. The location and phone numbers of the U.S. Embassy and the Consulates General in India are as follows:
--NEW DELHI: The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi is located at Shantipath, Chanakyapuri, New Delhi 110021; Tel 91-11-419-8000; fax 91-11-419-0017 (See also website address http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/in1/wwwhmain.html).
--MUMBAI: The U.S. Consulate General in Mumbai is located at Lincoln House, 78 Bhulabhai Desai Rd., Mumbai 400026; Tel 91-22-363-3611; fax 91-22-363-0350 (See also website address http://usembassy.state.gov/mumbai).
--CHENNAI: The U.S. Consulate General in Chennai is located at 220 Anna Salai, Chennai 600006; Tel 91-44-811-2000; fax 91-44-811-2027 (See also web site address http://usembassy.state.gov/chennai).
--CALCUTTA: (also known as Kolkata): The U.S. Consulate General in Calcutta is located at 5/1 Ho Chi Minh Sarani, Calcutta 700071; Tel 91-33-282-3611; fax 91-33-282-2335 (See also website at http://usembassy.state.gov/calcutta).
Americans traveling and residing abroad should monitor closely the Department\'s Internet web site at http://travel.state.gov, where further general information regarding travel to India may also be found. Please see also the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement and the Public Announcement for India dated March 27.
Return to Consular Information Sheets and Travel Warnings Page
India - Travel Warning
May 31, 2002
This Travel Warning is being issued to alert Americans to the fact that the Department has authorized the voluntary departure of non-emergency personnel and all dependents from our Embassy and Consulates in India. This Travel Warning supersedes the Warning issued May 24, 2002.
The Department of State warns American citizens to defer travel to India. Conditions along India\'s border with Pakistan and in the state of Jammu & Kashmir have deteriorated. Tensions have risen to serious levels and the risk of intensified military hostilities between India and Pakistan cannot be ruled out.
As a result of these concerns, the Department has authorized the departure of all U.S. Government personnel in non-emergency positions and family members in India.
Americans who, despite this warning to defer travel to India, remain in India should avoid travel to all border areas between India and Pakistan including the Indian states of Gujarat, Rajasthan, and Punjab, and to the state of Jammu & Kashmir. The Indian Government has closed virtually all land and air links with Pakistan, ending travel between the two countries. Military movements continue along both the Line of Control in Kashmir and the border between India and Pakistan. Artillery firing along the Line of Control has caused death and injury in that area. Terrorist groups, some of which are linked to al-Qaida and have previously been implicated in attacks on Americans, are active there as well, and have attacked and killed civilians.
The Department of State urges American citizens currently in India to depart the country. Those who decide to remain there should carefully monitor media reports for current information on developing situations and stay in touch with the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi or the nearest U.S. Consulate General in India. U.S. citizens in India are strongly urged to register and obtain updated security information at the Embassy or the nearest Consulate. Americans may register via the Internet, in person, or by mail or fax. The location and phone numbers of the U.S. Embassy and the Consulates General in India are as follows:
--NEW DELHI: The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi is located at Shantipath, Chanakyapuri, New Delhi 110021; Tel 91-11-419-8000; fax 91-11-419-0017 (See also website address http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/in1/wwwhmain.html).
--MUMBAI: The U.S. Consulate General in Mumbai is located at Lincoln House, 78 Bhulabhai Desai Rd., Mumbai 400026; Tel 91-22-363-3611; fax 91-22-363-0350 (See also website address http://usembassy.state.gov/mumbai).
--CHENNAI: The U.S. Consulate General in Chennai is located at 220 Anna Salai, Chennai 600006; Tel 91-44-811-2000; fax 91-44-811-2027 (See also web site address http://usembassy.state.gov/chennai).
--CALCUTTA: (also known as Kolkata): The U.S. Consulate General in Calcutta is located at 5/1 Ho Chi Minh Sarani, Calcutta 700071; Tel 91-33-282-3611; fax 91-33-282-2335 (See also website at http://usembassy.state.gov/calcutta).
Americans traveling and residing abroad should monitor closely the Department\'s Internet web site at http://travel.state.gov, where further general information regarding travel to India may also be found. Please see also the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement and the Public Announcement for India dated March 27.
Return to Consular Information Sheets and Travel Warnings Page