From IV: Oppose Bingaman amendments SA4131

[blondhenge]

Watch it dude

I think IV are con-men. They did not seem to know that this Biingham Amendment would be voted on.. and now passed. So now they are trying to claim victory and demand contributions on their site... using the red herring argumnet of "Managers' Amendment" which IV claims "sources" have told them includes Brownback amendments.... These guys should stop fooling the intelligent people on this forum and fire their lobbyist.

Reveal you "sources" in the Capitol who are feeding you garbage info and wise up

Congratulations on your first post--you're obviously an individual with a vested interest in this process. Perhaps you should now go back to your minuteman/numbersusa/etc. friends and report the 'good' work that you've done with your post.

If you want to know what IV is up to, why don't you ask them directly instead of criticizing in a public forum.

Oh yeah... get your facts straight too. Do you even know what's in the manager's amendment?

 

[saras76]

Yes ...

I suppose the 650k cap from Bingaman would be bad if future families are composed of 10 kids per family!!! But seriously... on average it's like 3 people per family so:
650000 / 3 = 216666 cap... assuming each applicant has a wife and one kid.

So it's a 50% increase on overall EB cap, I guess???

ufo2002,

An increase of 50% is better than the current situation. This increase should go a long way to ease the problem created by 245i.

regards,

saras

 

[MakeItStop]

Perhaps...

My point is that I hate to see good people, that play by the book, get run over by people who expect the silver platter treatment.

You make it sound like you are being heroic by paying taxes, when in fact it's the basic duty of every citizen. The rules of the game dictate that while working in this country, whether you have earned citizenship or not, you still pay taxes. Paying taxes does not justify immediate citizenship.

I am not saying that there arent people from other coutries that don't meet the mark, but your 51% figure is WAY off from what I have experienced-especially in the tech world.

You are correct-plenty of people from other lands that believed in the same vision we all do (i.e. the American dream) have contributed to every facet of society here, BUT there are many who have not that still expect to jump to the front of the line.

Did I say anything about this country using immigrants to fight it's wars instead of using it's legal citizens? NO. I suggested going back to the way it used to be where one could earn citizenship through service. Check recruitment stats-this country does fine with an all voluteer force, even in war time. However, you probably wouldn't understand the concept of service because you wouldn't take that option if it existed....just a place at the front of the line.

The folks that have toughed it out through the legal process and then been pushed back by other quota rules or mass protests, are the real ones getting it stuck to them, unfortunately. I don't need to explain it any further-it is these people (no matter who you are and where you are from) who deserve first right of citizenship.

PS There are much greater global market forces at work affecting the devaluation of the dollar, than the one you seem to cite as the main reason.

 

[nlssubbu]

Managers amendment in

Manager amendment which overlaps many of the Bingman's amendment is now in the bill. This will clear any issues with related to Hard Country quota and other issues discussed here.

Arlen Specter, the bill manager, will introduce few managers’ amendments. These are the amendments, we have been told, into which the Brownback amendments have been folded. 3 out of 4 provisions of Brownback’s amendments have made it into the Manager’s Amendment. The only provision that was not accepted was the provision whereby the 140,000 recaptured green cards were to stay only in EB1, EB2 and EB3 and not go to EB4 and EB5. However the other 3 provisions have been accepted and included into manager’s amendment. Those are:

Lets everyone file 485, if their labor is approved even if their priority date is not current.
Remove the hard limit on countries so that over-subscribed countries like India and China are allowed to use visa numbers that ARE NOT USED by other countries with low number of applicants. The hard limit was introduced by McCain Kennedy version of the bill. Today, the soft cap is in place and this provision continues the soft cap on countries in EB categories. This soft cap protects visa numbers from being wasted by their downward flow.
STEM applicants would be allowed to be exempt from cap even if they have not been working in exactly the same discipline as their STEM master’s degree. This will be a huge relief for many in EB3 and majority of EB2 applicants as they would become exempt from cap.

Kudos to IV.