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[chanduv23]

If u all look at my old posts, u will see that I am not the kind of guy to pick fights or some thing... I just don't have so much time you all have in analysing strategies etc... and don't spend hours and hours.
I appreciate healthy discussions, not like what UN has been writing these days, he has a narrow view of things and he keeps on rubbing those views. He is not open to others views and wants to tell people that he conveys what USCIS think or feel. Maybe nothing wrong in what he feels, just because I do not agree to his views, he is not ready to have a healthy discussion with me. And everyone here seems to be like a family supporting him "Just because he gives valuble advises". I dont blame people for emotionally getting attached to each other because people seem to love what they are doing and love who they talk to. I disagreed with some of the views of the most loved one here and angered all his lovers. Love is strong and ultimately wins. So hats off to your "true love" dear forum folks. Keep loving each other.

 

[GaramChai2go]

Mr. Chandu, next time somebody needs some advice on this forum, help him out. Then you will be UN2.
Maybe people wil listen to you, you will be a leader. Is that what you want? If not then , what do you want?

 

[GCVARUMA]

I do not know what UN's agenda is. And I really do not care, as long as it is helping people on the forums. Isn't this a capitalist society?

I have taken help from UN on these forums and I have not paid him a single dime for his advice. His inputs are valuable. If he has certain opinion on a certain topic, as long as he is not offending a certain individual, I am ok with it. It just gives me a different perspective to analyze. If I agree to that perspective or not, it is a different story. I think, we have to leave it to individuals to interpret, analyze and do what is best for themselves.

Exactly To the thread stater- Why not challenge what UN writes instead of attacking him personally?

Well said WellWisher007 and envision.. This is exactly what I had in my mind.. If UN does not offend anyone then why should there be any problem?? Have a healthy argument instead of a personal/name calling one..

At the end of the day, we need some bodies to run this forum. UN does provide that with some good insight into rules etc. 50% good and 50% his senile agenda and position. Saras and Techy provide insight i.e. their own which is 90% garbage.

There you go again trying to provoke people.. You tried to do it to Saras before and now you are trying to do the same with UN... I hope no one falls for your statement..

One thing I could understand is - be it UN, Saras or even techy.... I have never seen them personally insulting anyone, they are just giving opinions.... Then why some people insult them. If you don't like the idea.... then either shut-up or give your opinion.

Totally agree with you here.. I respect the views of UN, Saras, Ginnu, etc. as they always contribute to the forum.. unlike others who attack people based upon their own views and judgments and not backing up with factual evidence. If you want to read their posts, then read it, otherwise move on..

If u all look at my old posts, u will see that I am not the kind of guy to pick fights or some thing... I just don't have so much time you all have in analysing strategies etc... and don't spend hours and hours.
I appreciate healthy discussions, not like what UN has been writing these days, he has a narrow view of things and he keeps on rubbing those views. He is not open to others views and wants to tell people that he conveys what USCIS think or feel. Maybe nothing wrong in what he feels, just because I do not agree to his views, he is not ready to have a healthy discussion with me. And everyone here seems to be like a family supporting him "Just because he gives valuble advises". I dont blame people for emotionally getting attached to each other because people seem to love what they are doing and love who they talk to. I disagreed with some of the views of the most loved one here and angered all his lovers. Love is strong and ultimately wins. So hats off to your "true love" dear forum folks. Keep loving each other.

And chanduv23.. you are still to point out where UN used bad language... You also say "I appreciate healthy discussions" - if this is what you mean by healthy discussion then there is something seriously wrong... Also it is not love that we have here.. it is the ability to see right from wrong.. Before you go too far what I meant here is the right way of arguing and getting personal..

Thanks.
GCVaruma.

 

[chanduv23]

Mr. Chandu, next time somebody needs some advice on this forum, help him out. Then you will be UN2.
Maybe people wil listen to you, you will be a leader. Is that what you want? If not then , what do you want?

U folks have made this forum a tiny world for yourselves. Anyway, no one likes what I say. I am not an expert like you all. U r all the gurus of immigration, probably every immigrants seeks blessing from UN and his lovers. Maybe I will also be the one who will seek his help too Seems like I have rubbed my shoulders in the wrong way with senior influential people on this forum.

As most people say I have personallly offended UN, I apologise for that. I have no clue what the reason for my personal offence. I was just pointing at his narrow minded views of things, nothing to do with his seniority or his skills in immigration.

UN - I have nothing against you personally. Any discussion must be healthy. You want to rub every Indian about staffing companies, benching, approved labor, per diem issues etc... Not all Indians do that my friend. To be very honest and open, I am also not happy with the fact that this is happening and disgraces the community as a whole. Coming to "good faith". It is a grey area. No one has force and control over businesses. Businesses are selfish and there to survive and make profit. Coming to Immigration, it is essential to comply with rules, there are so many grey areas and loopholes that gives way to exploitation. Due to few bad apples, the whole basket looks rot. Like say when we talk about Illegal immigration, first thing that comes to mind is Mexicans. Mexico is also a developing nation and has a progressing economy and lot of hispanics have made it big in the US, but most people don't look at that, the public looks only at the "illegal point oof it". Same goes with Indians. Indians have made it high in the tech sector. This is a fact. Indian community has made it big, and is applauded. But people like u only point to the law breakers and not the good aspects. You are not looking at the bigger picture my friend. America is a great country, the fact that 20 million illegals get free medical service and the fact that the country gives fair chance for people to immigrate through proper channels is itself something that makes us all come here and make this our homeland. The process of immigration is a long difficult journey, and in most cases, the first generation immigrants face all sorts of challenges, whereas their children reap the benefits. If you want to keep writing all those posts and be adament in your views and dont want a healthy discusssion, I will not comment on anything u write. Anyways congrats for being the Guru and the unanimous leader of this forum.
Thanks to you all for your support.

 

[GaramChai2go]

U folks have made this forum a tiny world for yourselves. Anyway, no one likes what I say. I am not an expert like you all. U r all the gurus of immigration, probably every immigrants seeks blessing from UN and his lovers. Maybe I will also be the one who will seek his help too Seems like I have rubbed my shoulders in the wrong way with senior influential people on this forum.

You want to rub every Indian about staffing companies, benching, approved labor, per diem issues etc... support.

Let me ask you a simple question......who are you , which of these - EB1/2/3, India/ROW, 245i, illegal immgrant, RIR / non-RIR?
R u employer i.e staffing company, or employee...? or lawyer....
Maybe if you tell us about yourself then we may understand you better......

I will request the same answers from tallisagoo.. who started this thread and went for a long drive.......

 

[chanduv23]

Let me ask you a simple question......who are you , which of these - EB1/2/3, India/ROW, 245i, illegal immgrant, RIR / non-RIR?
R u employer i.e staffing company, or employee...? or lawyer....
Maybe if you tell us about yourself then we may understand you better......

I will request the same answers from tallisagoo.. who started this thread and went for a long drive.......

I am a employee.
H1b 7th year extension
EB2 India - 140 approved,
PD March 02, 2006

Thanks.

 

[GaramChai2go]

I am a employee.
H1b 7th year extension
EB2 India - 140 approved,
PD March 02, 2006

Thanks.

You are not bound to reply...but still will you tell us why what took so long to file EB2 application....

 

[techy2468]

chandu.....maybe you are being emotional........and dont see the reason why we may not hate UN....

so far i have not found anything wrong with what UN says............there is no love.....just the facts to support his argument.......nobody gets spared on this forum.....

and i know you used to have a balanced discussion in the past....thats why i feel that you are just having a bad day.....

 

[chanduv23]

You are not bound to reply...but still will you tell us why what took so long to file EB2 application....

I used to work fulltime for a company an got layed off in my 6th year H1b. I immediately found a contract project in 2 weeks of layoff and looked for a good company who can sponser my h1b, found one, and figured out they have a clean chit, WRT GC and H1b and do not abuse laws. So I transferred to that company in my 6th year h1b and they filed for my 6th + 7th year based on my labor that was stuch in backlog from the company I was layed off, I got my 6th and 7th year h1b approval combined and also got stamping at Chennai. The company immediately filed for PERM and got 140 approved, Now I am ending my 7th year and company is applying for 3 year extension. From my permanant position where I was layed off, to the consulting company I joined, I have a sharp 60% increase in salary, and have always switched projects with ease and better billing. Now I figure that my old eb3 labor is certified and my previuos company is bought over by Oracle Corp and the labor is wasted and my friends advice me to request them to hire me back because I know all my managers and now Oracle does not have financial issues. But that is an old PD 2004 March EB3, and I personally feel I am better off with March 2006 EB2 and with $$ billing and salary and happy about contracting through staffing company, with no worries about layoff.
Exactly during the time I was layed off, my wife was preparing for her USMLE step3 and I did not want to shatter her residency dreams. So, the first thing on my mind was to maintain status, atleast till she safely transfers to h1b for her residency. I looked for jobs and projects on a "war footing" just to make sure, I don't lose status anytime. After that, things went well, she got into her residency on a h1b visa (non profit) and now that h4 time is decoupled,she is excited that she can concentrate on trying for fellowships too.

Hope my story did not bore ya guys here It is mixed, lot of hope, lot of changes ..... Guess everyone here go through crappy times ..... and learn to become wiser.

 

[hopeofgc]

Chandu,

There is no need give complete details. Such a big posting. Can't believe, the person who was complaining about big postings.......now come up with his/her own big postings? Can't you be simple in writting!

 

[hopeofgc]

U seem to be a wise person, and know a lot of things. You seem to have a deep knowledge of whats going on as you see things from your perspective. You seem to have formed your opinions and you do not like what is going on. On one side you see companies/immigrants with issues/abusing the system and on the other side you see people seeking basic rights and looking for relief. So you form your own negative opinion.
I wont blame you for being open and being clear on what you feel. I guess, maybe you are so addicted to this immigration stuff that you are always thinking about it. You claim that you are having a lot of money and a great job, and I guess you have a lot of time to deal with this stuff. You also claim that your intention is to help people (which you have done a lot with valube advises). Only thing I do not understand is, if you have good job, great life and good contacts, why do you have to write lengthy messages on this forum? If your expertise is so good, why do you hang out here and keep rubbing your views to everyone. If you have a lot of monehy to blow, why don't you chill, take your family and kids out, why sit on these forums for hours and hours together and rub your negative views?
So, you say body shops are garbage, then why does H1b quota get depleted with so many filings from staffing firms? Why does USCIS not come with rule that staffing companies must not file for h1b? Why does USCIS not come with a rule that companies must not hire H1b visa holders as contractors from staffing companies? Why does USCIS allow staffing companies to file for Green Cards???? Remember, all this is your opinion. Like I said before, people are immigrating, goingh through a process, getting green cards and having a life, whereas you, sitting on immigration forums and spending all your time expressing all your opinions.
Once again, I am against people who abuse the system, but I do not agree with you that, everyone does that and if someone is honest and making sincere efforts to do something, they must not be discouraged or undermined. Just because of few bad apples, you cannot form your opinion that the whole basket is bad. And again, as you have your own views and you are adament that you wont change, I actually don't care. In fact I will never come back here again.
Good luck with your personalised views and your big postings.

Most of the UN postings has good information and interpretation of USCIS rules and policies, which most of us are unaware of. So, don't go by the contents of the big postings by UN.....but one can get the valuable info. from UN's postings.

 

[chanduv23]

Most of the UN postings has good information and interpretation of USCIS rules and policies, which most of us are unaware of. So, don't go by the contents of the big postings by UN.....but one can get the valuable info. from UN's postings.

I do not disagree on his skills or his advices, as everyone knows, he has helped a lot of people. I used to frequent this forum in the past, sometime back, I had exchange of messages with UN with the same issue, he was constantly rubbing his views about bad practices by Indian companies etc.. and was never allowing me to have a decent conversation with him. I got disgusted and left the forums. Maybe, it is just his personality, and I must not take it seriously and look at the positive

 

[talli sagoo]

unitednations, i just read your comments. overall, looking at your responses to other posters and me i'm glad that you got the message, and that was the purpose. regarding your other questions and comments, i think my original post to you had everything in it for you. Still, allow me to clarify a little further for you.

And please don’t repeat yourself again and again. you’re good with words too - you cover your ass very well from all angles so that heads you win, tales you still win and I like it!

your words:
"(where is the advertisement, I tell most people I am too busy to deal with their individual cases; I will talk to them a couple of times but am not a help desk), ... You are contradicting yourself. You say I am criticizing the people who I want as clients?"

Advertisement 101: create a 'need' for your product and then have a 'mouse-trap' (in a positive way), and then 'advertise' your product and then 'sell'.

Not to put you in a defensive mode again; some people have forwarded me your emails where you have provided a resume of yours, asking a charge of $500 per hour for your service and a couple other details. There's nothing wrong in it. I repeat there's nothing wrong in it and you may have your long list of reasons… which you gonna respond with soon .. BUT people just need to know this while reading your suggestions.

your words:
" ... Everyone has a friend of a friend. Have you ever heard of six degrees of separation?"

"Jeez", i thought we were done with this kind of cheesy rhetoric a couple decades ago. nice try though.

Your words:
" ..If it is so obvious why hasn't quota been increased yesterday?"

That was not the point. Re-read my words. BTW, nice to know your position.

Your words:
" ..Uncalled for? When explaining things one needs to tell stories, experiences? Maybe I should write about the discussions I've had with my hairstylist?"

Yeah, that would be much more refreshing - discussions with your hairstylists.., no really i mean it. man, you still don't get it - stop showing off in the name of 'stating facts', 'telling stories', or whatever..


Your words:
"All the discussions go hand in hand with each other. Is it better to surround yourself with "yes" men or people with "differing opinions"."

I agree with this wholeheartedly. no qualms about it, but please don't go overboard.

Overall, I think I liked your response to 'proas999' who had summed it up really well for all of us. Take it easy and happy holidays.

 

[techy2468]

talli_sagoo..... so UN charges $500/hr for his time.........whats wrong with that??

are you saying the people on this forums are not smart enough.........they get scared because UN states negative facts about most EB applicants in desi companies.....

and once they get scared they will go to UN to seek his help.......

well if they are not so smart....they will lose their money some other way....isnt it......i would prefer that they pay it to UN.....atleast i trust him to deliver the goods.....even though he is expensive...

 

[talli sagoo]

talli_sagoo..... so UN charges $500/hr for his time.........whats wrong with that??

are you saying the people on this forums are not smart enough.........they get scared because UN states negative facts about most EB applicants in desi companies.....

and once they get scared they will go to UN to seek his help.......

well if they are not so smart....they will lose their money some other way....isnt it......i would prefer that they pay it to UN.....atleast i trust him to deliver the goods.....even though he is expensive...

techy, there's nothing wrong in it, I totally agree. Here's what I wrote in my earlier post:

"There's nothing wrong in it. I repeat there's nothing wrong in it and you may have your long list of reasons… which you gonna respond with soon .. BUT people just need to know this while reading your suggestions."

 

[chanduv23]

techy, there's nothing wrong in it, I totally agree. Here's what I wrote in my earlier post:

"There's nothing wrong in it. I repeat there's nothing wrong in it and you may have your long list of reasons… which you gonna respond with soon .. BUT people just need to know this while reading your suggestions."

techy - not to point at you or anyone - this forum has become a mere discussion forum. Some have the nack of exploiting it, a lot of people argue endlessesly, there is no positive outlook, a lot of people either kill time and have fun. When someone disgarees with someone views, they attack them. I just think it is an addiction.
A lot of people have told this before that UN has a nack of attracting people for his business in this forum. I don't mind, whatever he does, he has helped a lot fo people and thats the good side of it.

 

[mariner555]

> so UN charges $500/hr for his time.........whats wrong with that??
I dont believe that for a minute. unless it is canadian $$. (I dont know if UN claimed that himself or if it is something else ..but 500$ an hr ..too good to be true)

 

[talli sagoo]

First friends; thanks for the kind words.

Problems with the forums in my view is people who don't visit often; take a few postings/threads and take it out of context without considering all the postings.

Chandu;

I feel for your plight. Many people in similar situations. Consulting/staffing companies have good fixes for people with immigration issues but they also have inherent issues due to consultants demands.

You guys are giving me way too much credit; negative postings causing people to call me. Interesting business strategy if that is what it was.

talisagoo:

When I don't want to do something or someone is being a pain; I give a high enough dollar figure to make them go away. Ability to pay is not an individual thing; it is a company wide solution. It went from helping people to business when I solved an issue for a company from a desperate candidate to them later revoking the 140 and then selling it to someone else for $30,000.

I am a guy on the internet. If someone wants me to work on ability to pay case; then they may be comfortable with me; but there company doesn't know anything so I need to get them comfortable to share the financial info. The resume was a lawyer idea to attach it at the end of ability to pay cases.

If you are familiar with the resume then you know all about me.

There is only one company which I leaned on heavily. USCIS tried revoking close to 45 approved I-140's; gave rfe's on 20 pending cases and then brough over 200 h-1b filings into it. According to USCIS they were involved in fraud. Every lawyer they contacted was going to charge close to $100,000. Just think how many people were at stake of getting kicked out of the country. There existing lawyer didn't even know where to start and was looking for exit strategy himself.

I had to give audited financial statements and do this whole case myself. You know what I charged $20,000. Just to do the audits it would have cost them $30,000 on top of the $100,000 the lawyers were charging. These are the types of things I get involved with. I like the interesting/challenging stuff.


It is a very wide net I cast. People call me who are friends of friends that I can't even trace to the original person who I talked to. If it is a commodity service; I tell them to look elsewhere (too busy for it; would rather post then do work); Note: this will change pretty soon.

Frankly, I, along with others appreciate all your efforts to help others and I won't repeat myself again here by extending this sentence with a 'but' . I have already said enough. Best!