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unitednations, what percentage of the forum members, do you think belong to those corrupt 'consulting' firms you always quote? If you do not have a number stop being a fear mongrer, yes, stop it now. I had cautioned you earlier too.

You are good at interpreting USCIS laws, stick to it. Don't go overboard by giving unnecessary scary scenarios in the name of 'playing devil's advocate' or whatever you do, to advertise, as someone pointed out to run your CPA/immigration advisory shop. Do not use this forum as advertising ground. get it??

It's one thing to be realistic and yet another thing to be putting words/fears into majority of the forum members' minds, who are clean.

When someone (e.g hipka) points you to published articles on economic contributions immigrants make to the US you shamelessly said you did not have "patience" to read those articles, and yet you ask people to guide you to such studies. You might already know that AILA lobbied with the help of over hundred of big companies for H1b and EB visa increase. They are 'employers' and they are not dumb.

When someone tries to be smart, you try to over smart them by showing off and explaining how you rub your ass with big honchos of the corporate world. It's not gonna help. If some of us start quoting who we interact with, you may find your 'cohorts' less than adequate. so stop showing off in the name whatever...

one more thing, if one hires a discourse analyst to do a linguistic profiling of your words used in this portal, someone may get the impression that you should rather belong to numbersusa or other anti-immigrants groups, which may not be true, as you yourself are an immigrant. I think if you qualify your idiosyncratic positions with "IMHO" you may get away.

Again, you are good at interpreting USCIS laws and numbers, stick to it.



unitednations said:
Maybe I am not articulating or people are misunderstanding on purpose because it doesn't fit their needs.

Employment base greencard is simple. Company needs a worker in a specific job, specific location and can't find ready, willing, able American worker. Nothing more, nothing less. How much you time you spend here, how much you contribute to social security, whether your wife can/will work, whether a company will outsource because of the skills you are taking back with you are all immaterial arguments that have nothing to do with this concept.

My postings are based on; refuting the reasons of why people think the economy, america is being harmed. No one has come up with any good reason. Most reasons everyone has come up with are "humanitarian" which has nothing to do with employment base greencard.

People need to understand the concept of it before they continue to complain about it. I am showing how people are gaming/cheating the system whether on purpose or inadvertently and isn't within the spirit of the law. Just about every reason people are using has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HARM/BENEFIT to the economy, rather it is to harm to individual people.

I say increase the quota; take spouses away from quota; let everyone in if there is an employer who needs their services. I honest to goodness feel this way. However, it is not a workable solution for many, many reasons.

I never said most people won't get greencards. Many people do. However, it is lurking in the background that it is going to get extremely tougher.

In the last year this is what I know either directly or indirectly:

USCIS denying 140's due to no permanent job
USCIS revoking approved 140's due to company filing too many cases
People being arrested for selling labors, creating labors
Companies shutting down due to h-1b violations non payment of h-1b wages
Consulates sending referrals to Fraud detection units to verify legitimacy of job offers
Consulates sending referrals to department of labor for h-1b violations of non payment of wages
USCIS warning people from switching too early on h-1b when they come into the country
DOL becoming more strict in their enforcement of h-1b violations
backlog labor processing centers requesting considerable amount of information for satellite offices and denying labors.

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All of the above is/will be leading for it to get tougher and tougher. In the background many things are going on. People will continue to get greencards but I also think people should be prudent when they are discussing increasing quota. Behind the scenes there is a lot of sentiment that employment base greencard is being abused.
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One thing I could understand is - be it UN, Saras or even techy.... I have never seen them personally insulting anyone, they are just giving opinions.... Then why some people insult them. If you don't like the idea.... then either shut-up or give your opinion.
 
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GaramChai2go said:
One thing I could understand is - be it UN, Saras or even techy.... I have never seen them personally insulting anyone, they are just giving opinions.... Then why some people insult them. If you don't like the idea.... then either shut-up or give your opinion.
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Exactly :rolleyes: To the thread stater- Why not challenge what UN writes instead of attacking him personally? :confused:
 
At the end of the day, we need some bodies to run this forum. UN does provide that with some good insight into rules etc. 50% good and 50% his senile agenda and position.
Saras and Techy provide insight i.e. their own which is 90% garbage.





GaramChai2go said:
One thing I could understand is - be it UN, Saras or even techy.... I have never seen them personally insulting anyone, they are just giving opinions.... Then why some people insult them. If you don't like the idea.... then either shut-up or give your opinion.
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GaramChai2go said:
One thing I could understand is - be it UN, Saras or even techy.... I have never seen them personally insulting anyone, they are just giving opinions.... Then why some people insult them. If you don't like the idea.... then either shut-up or give your opinion.
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I used to frequent this forum and get a lot of advices and also used to help others. I did not have any personal or business agenda. I have read posts from saras and techy - they are all good, saras is very respectful person. Techy is also fun, all his posts are fun to read, But UN - I somehow did not find certain things right. He talks as if he knows everything, as if he is the secretary of state and personally knows everything and has some connections with USCIS. He seems to have a agenda in what he says or talks. I personally feel that is not right. I personally think he must live in India for few years and then come on a h1b through a job and get his stampng in Chennai and then come here, maybe then his perspectives will change. I am not sure, if he predicts what he says or actually is a USCIS spy or having top connections. He talks as if he knows what happens in Chennai consulate. Has he personally been there? Does he know what happens in India? Does he know how software and outsourcing works??? He has always been pointing to negatives. Yes, people abuse visas, companies abuse policies, countries bomb each other, systems are never perfect, so why does he prey on Indians? I have been told not to take him seriously and ignore him because he talks "is his nack of attracting the forum people to his business". This is wrong. If he is a good person he won't do what he is doing. I apologise for being very abrupt on what I feel. But forum folks, please get a life, and beware of people with agendas.
 
Chandu, I do not know what UN's agenda is. And I really do not care, as long as it is helping people on the forums. Isn't this a capitalist society?

I have taken help from UN on these forums and I have not paid him a single dime for his advice. His inputs are valuable. If he has certain opinion on a certain topic, as long as he is not offending a certain individual, I am ok with it. It just gives me a different perspective to analyze. If I agree to that perspective or not, it is a different story. I think, we have to leave it to individuals to interpret, analyze and do what is best for themselves.



chanduv23 said:
I used to frequent this forum and get a lot of advices and also used to help others. I did not have any personal or business agenda. I have read posts from saras and techy - they are all good, saras is very respectful person. Techy is also fun, all his posts are fun to read, But UN - I somehow did not find certain things right. He talks as if he knows everything, as if he is the secretary of state and personally knows everything and has some connections with USCIS. He seems to have a agenda in what he says or talks. I personally feel that is not right. I personally think he must live in India for few years and then come on a h1b through a job and get his stampng in Chennai and then come here, maybe then his perspectives will change. I am not sure, if he predicts what he says or actually is a USCIS spy or having top connections. He talks as if he knows what happens in Chennai consulate. Has he personally been there? Does he know what happens in India? Does he know how software and outsourcing works??? He has always been pointing to negatives. Yes, people abuse visas, companies abuse policies, countries bomb each other, systems are never perfect, so why does he prey on Indians? I have been told not to take him seriously and ignore him because he talks "is his nack of attracting the forum people to his business". This is wrong. If he is a good person he won't do what he is doing. I apologise for being very abrupt on what I feel. But forum folks, please get a life, and beware of people with agendas.
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WellWisher007 said:
Chandu, I do not know what UN's agenda is. And I really do not care, as long as it is helping people on the forums. Isn't this a capitalist society?

I have taken help from UN on these forums and I have not paid him a single dime for his advice. If he has certain opinion, as long as he is not offending a certain individual, I am ok with it. It just give me a different perspective to analyze. If I agree to that perspective or not, it is a different story. I think, we have to leave it to individuals to interpret, analyze and do what is best for themselves.
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What u say is right. Actually, we must not care to what he says or does. He has his own perspectives, and says he got it by virtue of experience as he sits on this site for years together and spends couple of hours everyday. Maybe like the hindi movie "Lageraho Munnabhai" where the hero sees halucinations of Mahatma Gandhi after he gets worked up reading about Gandhi for long hours, same with UN I guess, he sees halucinations of USCIS folks answering all immigrants questions and bad mouthing people from India and looking down upon folks. His Hallucinations reflect his attitude and he thinks, it is what USCIS thinks or govt thinks.
I do agree with a lot of things he says, but he tries to rub it in the bad way.
 
I did not say, we must not care. I said, everybody should and will interpret UN's comments based on their own situation and take what is good for himself/herself. Personally, I have seen that he has helped a lot of individuals on this forum.

chanduv23 said:
What u say is right. Actually, we must not care to what he says or does. He has his own perspectives, and says he got it by virtue of experience as he sits on this site for years together and spends couple of hours everyday. Maybe like the hindi movie "Lageraho Munnabhai" where the hero sees halucinations of Mahatma Gandhi after he gets worked up reading about Gandhi for long hours, same with UN I guess, he sees halucinations of USCIS folks answering all immigrants questions and bad mouthing people from India and looking down upon folks. His Hallucinations reflect his attitude and he thinks, it is what USCIS thinks or govt thinks.
I do agree with a lot of things he says, but he tries to rub it in the bad way.
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One thing I do agree though, is that if folks from the anti-immigrant groups go through these forums and if they find negative comments from anybody on this forum, which could help their case, they will use it against us.

I think I had seen a report last year, prepared by anti-immigrant community, which had used comments from one of the online forums to present their case. Not sure, what audience the report was intended for?

My only concern is with regards to comments on this forum being interpreted and used by anti-immigrant community to their advantage.

WellWisher007 said:
I did not say, we must not care. I said, everybody should and will interpret UN's comments based on their own situation and take what is good for himself/herself. Personally, I have seen that he has helped a lot of individuals on this forum.
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WellWisher007 said:
One thing I do agree though, is that if folks from the anti-immigrant groups go through these forums and if they find negative comments from anybody on this forum, which could help their case, they will use it against us.

I think I had seen a report last year, prepared by anti-immigrant community, which had used comments from one of the online forums to present their case. Not sure, what audience the report was intended for?

My only concern is with regards to comments on this forum being interpreted and used by anti-immigrant community to their advantage.
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I don't contribute too much but have been silent reader all along. I think I would agree with tallisagoo's and WellWisher's this assessment, although I have read all of UN's posts and learnt a great deal from them. But lately, I think he's gone more narcissistic and highly condescending. UN, with all due respect, you have to understand that nobody is indispensable...
 
Un

U seem to be a wise person, and know a lot of things. You seem to have a deep knowledge of whats going on as you see things from your perspective. You seem to have formed your opinions and you do not like what is going on. On one side you see companies/immigrants with issues/abusing the system and on the other side you see people seeking basic rights and looking for relief. So you form your own negative opinion.
I wont blame you for being open and being clear on what you feel. I guess, maybe you are so addicted to this immigration stuff that you are always thinking about it. You claim that you are having a lot of money and a great job, and I guess you have a lot of time to deal with this stuff. You also claim that your intention is to help people (which you have done a lot with valube advises). Only thing I do not understand is, if you have good job, great life and good contacts, why do you have to write lengthy messages on this forum? If your expertise is so good, why do you hang out here and keep rubbing your views to everyone. If you have a lot of monehy to blow, why don't you chill, take your family and kids out, why sit on these forums for hours and hours together and rub your negative views?
So, you say body shops are garbage, then why does H1b quota get depleted with so many filings from staffing firms? Why does USCIS not come with rule that staffing companies must not file for h1b? Why does USCIS not come with a rule that companies must not hire H1b visa holders as contractors from staffing companies? Why does USCIS allow staffing companies to file for Green Cards???? Remember, all this is your opinion. Like I said before, people are immigrating, goingh through a process, getting green cards and having a life, whereas you, sitting on immigration forums and spending all your time expressing all your opinions.
Once again, I am against people who abuse the system, but I do not agree with you that, everyone does that and if someone is honest and making sincere efforts to do something, they must not be discouraged or undermined. Just because of few bad apples, you cannot form your opinion that the whole basket is bad. And again, as you have your own views and you are adament that you wont change, I actually don't care. In fact I will never come back here again.
Good luck with your personalised views and your big postings.
 
unitednations said:
Thanks. There was another member Joef who essentially posted a lot in life after and citizenship forums. He actually went strictly by the purety of things. Everyone would just fight with him until he got sick of it and deleted all of his postings (approximately 10,000 of them).
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First thing, I think you are wasting time by explaining to people cursing you. I think you should avoid that and work on the positive side. 2nd don't compare yourself with Joef, he was one adamant guy whose some of the advices were wrong. So don't even think of deleting your postings or something like that .....
:D :D :D :D :D :D We will make best use of your postings.

And for others, once again don't curse anyone personally, mind your own business :( :( :(
 
I don't usually post much, but I am disheartened to read some of the comments written here. UN not only seems to be knowledgable, but also helpful. I have read in these forums about how he has helped people at various stages of immigration. He has helped immigration lawyers with 140 RFEs. He is sharing his knowledge on this forum. If someone doesn't like his postings, why do they even care to read? Last I heard, this is a free discussion board. Atleast, he is not insulting anyone.
UN, on behalf of all who you have helped, I say THANK YOU!!
 
Ok, so you are all like a family here. You all have fallen in love with each other. Yes, when you all spend hours and hours cribbing and suggesting changes to the system (among yourselves) and talking about how the system should be and writing long long messages, I guess all these things make you all fall in love with each other.
As the world moves on, you all spend most of your lives in these discussion forums and fall in love with each other.
For most of you here, writing big messages in this forum is a part of your lives. Well, people have wierd hobbies and addictions, and there is nothing wrong in spending valuble time on these forums.

Good luck to you all.
 
chanduv23 said:
Ok, so you are all like a family here. You all have fallen in love with each other. Yes, when you all spend hours and hours cribbing and suggesting changes to the system (among yourselves) and talking about how the system should be and writing long long messages, I guess all these things make you all fall in love with each other.
As the world moves on, you all spend most of your lives in these discussion forums and fall in love with each other.
For most of you here, writing big messages in this forum is a part of your lives. Well, people have wierd hobbies and addictions, and there is nothing wrong in spending valuble time on these forums.

Good luck to you all.
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Oh so sorry nobody loves you, we love each other...
 
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UN-we need you

Dear UN,

I read a lot of posts and seldom post anything. I have read through a lot of your posts and I think you are a very valuable member. You have been of great help to a lot of members in the past and Iam sure it will be that way in future.

Please ignore those who only know pointing fingers and engage in pointless discussion.
 
chanduv23 said:
Ok, so you are all like a family here. You all have fallen in love with each other. Yes, when you all spend hours and hours cribbing and suggesting changes to the system (among yourselves) and talking about how the system should be and writing long long messages, I guess all these things make you all fall in love with each other.
As the world moves on, you all spend most of your lives in these discussion forums and fall in love with each other.
For most of you here, writing big messages in this forum is a part of your lives. Well, people have wierd hobbies and addictions, and there is nothing wrong in spending valuble time on these forums.

Good luck to you all.
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chandu......why are you hell bent on picking a fight??

* obviously we all have a lot of free time......hence we post a lot.
* we do enjoy this forums.....being in the same boat.
* we do get to share knowledge which makes us feel better...

nothing wrong with all this...
 
Be a sport, debate, live and let live. Take it easy folks, it is getting too hot. UN, Saras, techy help others, they are also human so give them a flak.

Dil pe mat lena yaar.
 
This comment coming from you, of all the people, does mean something. "Did the sun rise from the west today morning?"; just pulling your chain, techy:)

Cheers and have a great weekend!!!

techy2468 said:
why are you hell bent on picking a fight??
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