File TN under statistician with MBA degree, ok?

[youyou]

quick question for TN guru,

I probably will get an offer as statistical analyst from a US company, I have computer degree in China 10 yrs ago, also have MBA degree 2 yrs ago.

so, if I file my TN application under statistician with MBA degree, is that ok?

Or US still wants my computer degree, which one counts?

Thank you in advance.

 

[nelsona]

IMO, Neither your Computer degree nor your MBA is an easy sell for a Statistician TN. You will need to show the connection that your cousre load was HEAVILY mathematics. I presume you have a translation and equivalence done for your Chinese degree? You will need to show relevance.

 

[youyou]

I presume you have a translation and equivalence done for your Chinese degree? You will need to show relevance.

where do I get equivalance done and how should I show them the relevance?

Neither your Computer degree nor your MBA is an easy sell for a Statistician TN.

If relevance is low, because data mining is the kind of joint application of computer learning and advanced statistics.
Then what should I do? "Statistical Analyst" is best filed under what category then?

Thank you so much.

 

[simsd]

So the big burning question is "What constitutes a statistician?". Since there is no specific degree to my knowledge for a statistician other than math, I think you need to use your transcripts and show how the classes you took relate to the position. Then those classes plus your experience should be the key to the position.

With an MBA and a computer related degree (I believe you said something about computers) there should be enough classes in that to justify being a statistician.

For equivalence try The Foundation for International Services in Washington state - http://www.fis-web.com - you may want to talk to them and explain what you are trying to accomplish.

 

[nelsona]

One thing to note is that the TN category is "mathematician -- including statistician"

I interpret this to mean that a MATH major can get a stats job and Not that a stats person can qualify for a Math TN -- which is what this person is asking.

I agree that some expert help will be needed to fashion both the TN letter and to make the connection.

 

[youyou]

Thank you, simsd and nelsona. Which catgory to file in TN is the key, I think.

Basically, main job will be using data mining techniques (decision tree & regression etc) to help company develop models for direct marketing, database marketing and credit score, etc.

What other category can I file beside statistician for my "statistical analyst" then?

 

[youyou]

Check out the OOH description and requirements for statistician: http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos045.htm

Does your job offer fall under this description?

Do you meet the educational requirements provided? Can you make a reasonable argument that you do?

You may also want to look up Mathematicians: http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos043.htm

I am totally a newbie about TN application, so to clarify one question,

Only after I get job offer letter, then I map the job description to the TN category myself?

Or,

I ask the company to write the job description based on the TN category I like to file?

 

[pinoyInDC]

I am totally a newbie about TN application, so to clarify one question,

Only after I get job offer letter, then I map the job description to the TN category myself?

Or,

I ask the company to write the job description based on the TN category I like to file?

Offering company writes the job offer letter addressed to USCIS using company letterhead. Search around this forum for samples of TN letters, you should be able to find one.

Good luck!

 

[youyou]

I searched "Occupational Outlook Handbook: Professional and Technical Occupations" for TN, it looks I can only file mine under management consultant, which has better chance than statistician.

 

[nelsona]

Management consultant is on eof the hardest categories to get TN, as your example illustrates. So many try MC when they cannot fit in other categories. Border knows this and will amost always deny initially.

 

[youyou]

Management consultant is on eof the hardest categories to get TN, as your example illustrates. So many try MC when they cannot fit in other categories. Border knows this and will amost always deny initially.

I don't have other choices, but I have the degree and yrs experience, I will ask a lawyer to help me file this.