F-1 student visa and illegal employment

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sarahdiop

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I just got a part-time job (which will be full-time during breaks). I have been in the usa for 1 year and a half now. I am an international student on a F-1 visa. My social security card does not say that I am not eligible for employment. Actually it just shows my name and the social security number. Last summer I worked for 3 months and when filling out the paperwork I checked "us citizen" and just showed my ssn card and my sate id. I am about to do the same thing for this job. My sponsor is unable to support me anymore because of hardship and we have had some issues together so he doesn want to provide me with proofs of this hardship so I can apply for an EAD. I really need those jobs to survive, i have to pay for school, rent, bills, books, and all that stuff and Im left by myself. How much chance do I have to get caught (and deported) ?
Also for the job they need my fingerprints, I dont have any record, but will it show that I am actually not us citizen?
Is this illegal emplyment? I know i have not been authorized to work but the guys who did my ssn did a mistake? Or is it possible to be f-1 and still have a ssn card like this. Does this mean i am allowed to work? What about the fact that im lying on the paperwork?
My real question is how much chance do I have to get caught (or not caught) ?
Please respond quickly...
 
sarahdiop said:
I just got a part-time job (which will be full-time during breaks). I have been in the usa for 1 year and a half now. I am an international student on a F-1 visa. My social security card does not say that I am not eligible for employment. Actually it just shows my name and the social security number. Last summer I worked for 3 months and when filling out the paperwork I checked "us citizen" and just showed my ssn card and my sate id. I am about to do the same thing for this job. My sponsor is unable to support me anymore because of hardship and we have had some issues together so he doesn want to provide me with proofs of this hardship so I can apply for an EAD. I really need those jobs to survive, i have to pay for school, rent, bills, books, and all that stuff and Im left by myself. How much chance do I have to get caught (and deported) ?
Also for the job they need my fingerprints, I dont have any record, but will it show that I am actually not us citizen?
Is this illegal emplyment? I know i have not been authorized to work but the guys who did my ssn did a mistake? Or is it possible to be f-1 and still have a ssn card like this. Does this mean i am allowed to work? What about the fact that im lying on the paperwork?
My real question is how much chance do I have to get caught (or not caught) ?
Please respond quickly...
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At the end of year your employer will file tax return for his business and the IRS documents will show that you received payment from him/her. Most Social Security Cards for students does not have the "Not eligible for employment" written on it. The reason being that, as a F1 you are authorized to work part-time in your school. That, howver, does not mean that you will be able to work full time without proper authorization. You will face trouble when you will try to adjust your status later. You will need a good immigration attorney working for you. I think, under a new rule, if you are out of status for some time, you can pay a fine and adjust status. The bottom line is that down the road, you have to hire an immigration attorney and work your way up. There is a good chance that if you are caught you will face deportation. I wish you a lot of luck.
 
Does that mean that I have a chance of getting caught at the beginning of next year, in february when there is the income tax thing? Or just when I would want to adjust my status? What do u mean by "adjust my status?" Does my international student advisor has anyway of knowing about all that? I actually decided to let go the job even if i have to starve during winter and walk 15 minutes under south-pole like temperatures to get to school. I still have to fill the W-4 form right? What is more likely to happen in a next future? (Coz i dont really care about in 4 ou 5 years, but im most worried about my studies at least the next two or three years).
 
this is not easy to answer because you can be caught in a number of ways...like in Swift & Co raids that happened recently. My opinion is stay legally thus only work at shcool and during the summer.
 
you can apply for student loan

Sarahdiop,

YOu can apply for student loan.
There are three types you can pay the loan:

1. While studying
2. AFTER studies are completed. Until your education is over and you find an employment you do not have to pay a cent
3. You can pay interest part of it now and pay the remaining loan later

One good web site allowing international students to get loan is:

www.teri.org

PLEASE stay legal. Else you will loose future chance on getting green card.
I personally believe, short cuts in life never work, and they haunt us back exactly at the wrong time. When that happens we can't even correct past mistakes. So it's good not to make a mistake.


For getting your loan approved, all you will need is a co-borrower's signature who is a US citizen or permanent resident. If you have some close family relative or friends , I am sure they will not mind helping you get the loan.

Good Luck
 
f-1 visa is a hell when it come to your status

common guy's no way if you have f-1 visa you can get financial aid ? you have to have a green card or citizenship to get financial aide.
what a have to say is that if you have an f-1 visa it's very difficult to maintient your status as legal in the US, specialy if you are not supported financialy by an instutition.
i came to america 12 years ago with an f-1 visa in 1995 my immigration status is a hell since.
GOOD LUCK BRO.
 
I was is the same delima and it is very important that you know, as an F1 student you are not allowed to work what so ever with out INS permission. ICE - Immigration and Customs Enforcement came to pick me up at my Apt. I dont have any criminal history. The only reason they came is that i failed to maintain my F1 status. So if you are working you better make sure that you take the required classes and pass. I am now in the process of getting my GC cos im married to a US-citizen GOOD LUCK MAN do what you have to do.... By the way it is a FEDERAL FELONY to state that you are a citizen on your I-9 so keep that in mind
 
sarahdiop said:
I just got a part-time job (which will be full-time during breaks). I have been in the usa for 1 year and a half now. I am an international student on a F-1 visa. My social security card does not say that I am not eligible for employment. Actually it just shows my name and the social security number. Last summer I worked for 3 months and when filling out the paperwork I checked "us citizen" and just showed my ssn card and my sate id. I am about to do the same thing for this job. My sponsor is unable to support me anymore because of hardship and we have had some issues together so he doesn want to provide me with proofs of this hardship so I can apply for an EAD. I really need those jobs to survive, i have to pay for school, rent, bills, books, and all that stuff and Im left by myself. How much chance do I have to get caught (and deported) ?
Also for the job they need my fingerprints, I dont have any record, but will it show that I am actually not us citizen?
Is this illegal emplyment? I know i have not been authorized to work but the guys who did my ssn did a mistake? Or is it possible to be f-1 and still have a ssn card like this. Does this mean i am allowed to work? What about the fact that im lying on the paperwork?
My real question is how much chance do I have to get caught (or not caught) ?
Please respond quickly...
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This is a very bad idea. Never ever claim to be US Citizen because that will be one way ticket only. I hope you were not fingerprinted or filed a tax return with your paystub...contact a lawyer. Good luck.
 
This is my experience with working or not working at all, we all need to survive and put food on Your table, right?
I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE TO FOLLOW MY ADVICE WHATSOEVER but...
I got change of status back in 2000, from illegal to legal, I started working AND paying taxes and filing my taxes as well. My marrige was "supposely a sham" and the immigration started an investigation, my Conditional Residence Status was terminated in Jan 2004, I continued working AND paying taxes, of course under my own SS#, I was detained by the Immigration on Dec 26, 2006 and they booked me and gave me a copy of the papers and the "alleged charges" and the main thing they had on me was that I had done the marrige fraud, they KNEW that I had been working the whole time but there was never any charges against me because of that, although I right now I am in Removal Proceedings, I went to court last week and the judge read all of the "alleged charges" against me the The District Attorney from Immigration got her say and she or they (Immigration) had even decided that all charges against me should be STRICKEN! Except for the fact that I was suppose to leave by Jan 2004 because my Conditional Residence Status was terminated at that time.And the judge gave me a continuence until 9/11/07.
So now my thing is, wouldn't the INS charge me with working without permit as well if they really wanted to kick me out or cared?
Doesn't it make more sense to both INS and me that I work even if I am not suppose to AS LONG AS I PAY MY TAXES and file my taxes?
I mean, after the court hearing, it was time for the judge and go on a break and I asked the District Attorney from INS an "Hypothetical" question;
It's now January and MR Doe have to be here to atleast Sep 11, his next court date, how is Mr Doe suppose to survive and be able to eat etc etc if he can't work? Her answer was I would suggest that Mr Doe gets his resume together TODAY and find a job BUT he should pay taxes....
I mean did I happen to get an unusual nice District Attorney or what?
I mean how do You read that?
Isn't that interesting though?

Please tell me Your thought about it!

Michael
 
Let me tell you that the only thing worse than doing something illegal is to work and not pay your taxes. The IRS will hunt you down! If you don't want to attach your SS to your work just call the IRS and tell them you want a Tax ID# and you can give this to your next employer. You will get a special card in the mail and it is perfectly legal to have one. As long as you pay your taxes no questions will be asked. The IRS and ICE do not share information with each other but even if you work illegally, pay your taxes or it will come back to haunt you. The IRS is aware that people using Tax ID#s instead of SS are illegal but they collect Billions in taxes and they are not about to give up their gold mine to ICE anytime soon. Just don't expect to get a tax refund in the mail however there is a way to get that too later.
 
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this is the biggest mistake u can commit...by giving ur ssn...
i was in canada and i worked full time during school @10/hr for 8hrs everyday. tax free...so try to find out some cash jobs, thru desi agents, like those in factories etc. u can make 1500/month working night shifts,,,and sleep during daytime in school,,,i think indian students are bright enough to get a 3.0+ even if they study 1 week before exam...so the bottomline is never give ur ssn,...
i had some black friends,,,they worked on ssn of dead people, in their name, i dont know how
 
Sarah:

I understand your stringent need for survival and desire to remain in this country.

However, it is best to try to stay as legal as possible because it can haunt you later. You have already made some mistakes, however try to avoid them in the future.

A few things to keep in mind.

1. Never state you are a US citizen or legal resident on any official documents, as one poster here said, this is considered a felony

2. Try to find an on-campus job during the academic year and an internship for the summer

3. If 2 fails, the best way to work (albeit illegally) is for cash and with no personal info provided. It may also be possible that INS would not send your info to other institutions as long as you pay taxes.
 
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