F-1 denial because of foreign sponsorship

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zhenja

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Hello everybody, please tell me what you think about my situation.
My GirlFriend came to USA on J-1 visa last summer, then she changed her status to B-1 until march the 30th of 2006. She left the country on March 29th having immigration approval notice onhand. Now she got accepted to one of the community colleges. She got her I-20 where I'm shown as a family friend and have available funds for her in amount of 47k. When she went to the embassy she was denied visa because she said that I'm her sponsor. We are currently in process of reissuing her new I-20 where all the funds are going to be shown on her father's account. Having all these in mind and recent visa refusal (all other documents are fine), does she have lots of chances being approved from 2nd attempt.

PS: All this pertains to Russian Embassy in Moscow

All your comments are greatly appreciated, did anybody have similar experience?
 
Having an US sponser is very bad practice, liable for denial. However, her F1 denial is already in her records, next time she goes the denial reason pops up. You are still in US . How you are going to cover up your previous sponsership.


zhenja said:
Hello everybody, please tell me what you think about my situation.
My GirlFriend came to USA on J-1 visa last summer, then she changed her status to B-1 until march the 30th of 2006. She left the country on March 29th having immigration approval notice onhand. Now she got accepted to one of the community colleges. She got her I-20 where I'm shown as a family friend and have available funds for her in amount of 47k. When she went to the embassy she was denied visa because she said that I'm her sponsor. We are currently in process of reissuing her new I-20 where all the funds are going to be shown on her father's account. Having all these in mind and recent visa refusal (all other documents are fine), does she have lots of chances being approved from 2nd attempt.

PS: All this pertains to Russian Embassy in Moscow

All your comments are greatly appreciated, did anybody have similar experience?
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It didn't say I was her boyfriend on the I-20.

It was just saying that I'm family friend. That's what college counsleor suggested to me. I didn't even suspect it will turn to such a big issue. Now her only sponsor is her father with all the money coming from his account. Do you thing the previous reason logged in the computer? And if yes will it really popup? I it will what should she say? Also, GURU, what do you think is the main obstacle J-1=>B1 extension or my sponsorship?
 
zhenja said:
My GirlFriend came to USA on J-1 visa last summer, then she changed her status to B-1 until march the 30th of 2006. She left the country on March 29th having immigration approval notice onhand.QUOTE]

OK lets start from the beginning. She came in J-1, switched to B-1 and now is trying to get F-1, correct? The reason she was told by the embassy she was denied F-1 is because her sponsor is you, correct?
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To go into more specifics...

Zdarovo! The consule was a guy around 40-45 years old. He aksed her who is her sponsor, she said it is her father (she had his account printout with 21k on it, and meaning that he will tranfer it to me, family friend in the application). Since I was the primary sponsor on I-20, he asked her: Your father? Then who is this american guy on the I-20? She explained, but I guess it was a bit complecated, because she mentioned to me she didn't expect this question right upfront. Now his face was distorted and he was looking at her like he doen't trust her. Then he opend her travel passport (zagran pasport) on the bookmark that was left there with her J-1 visa. He said: You just returned back from J-1. GF: Replied: Yes! Then he stamped her passport (attempted to apply for visa at US embassy) and said: Sorry, I can't issue you a visa.

PS: Now, looking back at it I feel that she wasn't really good prepeared to give short and consice answers as consules expect. Also, I talked to international students manager from the college, and she said that lots of F-1s are coming here with sponsor being foreign and all that depends on human factor and country.

Please evaluate her chances and are there any other suggestions on her replies, outlook and behavior (I know that in most part it depend on the consule's impression on the applying person). Does she really have chance applying for the 2nd time with a different sponsor (her father) with 33K stated on russian bank letterhead letter? Any advices and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 
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Yea everything is correct: Came here June 2005 on J-1, changed J1=>B1 on september 2005, got her approval on January 2006, went home on march 29th 2006 (before expiration of her extension). Now is attempting to get F-1 visa.
 
Privet, The situation is very unpleasunt. I have been denied a visitor's visa a couple of times, let me tell you - not a great feeling. I think the problem might be the following, first scenario - J-1 might have had some residency restrictions on it (is not there like a 2 year restriction??) if that is the problem than there is really not much you can do, but I would assume the counsulate officer would tell her about it(by the way you can always make an inquiry and see what were the reasons for your denial), the second scenario is that since she is a girl and you are a guy sponsoring her out of the blue ("family friend" who is a US citizen), so there is a possibility if she was not able to clearly explain her ties to the us sponsor, the counsular officer saw an immigrant intent, of course in this case things are much much tougher, third case scenario - there was simply something not straight with her papers (forms missing, things not signed, something not paid), but again I would assume, she would be told so...

That being said, I think there is still a chance, so here is what I would advise you to do. First contact the embassy in Moscow (from here from there) does not really matter and find out why her request was turned down. If it is some sort of administrative issue (something was missing, there is a restriction etc.) just take care of it and you should be good to go. If it is some version of the second scenario, the chances are not hight at least right now, but the DO exist. Here is what I would suggest to do, first get a letter of support from the college here (ask them to write how much they want her there and all that sort of crap), then get the cash to her dad, get all sorts of ties to homecountry (Russia), I think she should simply think through how she knows you and why you are sponsoring her. Transferring money to her dad would be a bad idea as a first reasonbale question that comes to my mind is "why did not he sponsor her in the first place?" so she should simply go with a good explanation and ready to prove that there is no immigrant intent...

Udachi!
 
V printsipe eto to shto ja i zdelal...

Vo pervih, ja ne citizen, ibo eslibi im bil to prosto bi zhenislja i zhdal K-3, nu na hudoi konets cherez K-1 ejo privez. A ja chas green card holder. Citizenship budet toka cherez 3 goda, sam ponimaesh dlja ljubvi srok boljshoi. Seichas ja perevel na chet ejo otsa 30K, i eche 4 tam bilo, itogo 34K, ona poluchaet spravku i poidet v posoljstvo uzhe s novoi I-20. Nachet 2 years requirement ja slishal no kak to vobche eto ne uchitival.

Kak nachet prichini? Kak ejo uznatj na 100%, prosto pozvonitj im i oni skazhut? Ili nado kakoi to zapros napravljatj? I esli eto iz za 2 years residence requirement, shto eto znachit po prostomu i kak s etim borotsja?

Nu a vobche kak dumaesh esli s etoi F-1 ne poluchitsja, imeja mnogo $$$ mozhno li ejo po kakim nitj drugim vizam pritachitj, chem skoree tem lutche koneshno?
 
Regarding your visa...

U tebja v timeline napisano shto ti priehal po R vuse. Slozhno ejo vobche poluchitj? Ti deistviteljno rabotnik religioznij ili s kem to dogovorilsja i kakie tam age requirement. Prosto interesno, ibo viza dostatochno redkaja.
 
Privet,

Davai vse po pryadku. Snachala na schet moei R vizi. da na samom dele viza dostatochno redkaya, no sut' vizi tochno takaya ze kak i H, edinstvenni plus v tom shto eta viza ne obyazatel'no trebuet stepeni bakalvara kak H. Priehal ya po etoi vize absolutno legal'no, po priglasheniu organizacii kotoraya zanimaetsya blagotvoritel'nost'u v pribaltike, na ukraine i v belarusi. Ya s nimi rabotal perevodchikom porydka 4 let do togo kak priehal v shtati i na samom dele rabotal u nih v offise porydka 2 let poka ne postupil v univer v shtatah....

na schet tvoei situacii, shto kasaetsya zaprosa, ya eto delal ran'she (tak kak ya uze govoril u menya v passporte 2 otkaza) i priglashuschaya storona svyazalas' s mestnim senatorom i zapros bil sdelan cherez nego. No ya dumau shto v tvoem sluchae est' smisl sdelat' zapros cherez community college kotori delal I-20, libo na hodoi konec tebe pozvonit' i poobschatsya s nimi kak sponsor. Ya dumau shto oni smogut tebe skazat' v chem delo...

Na schet dvuhletnei rezidencii na rodine, ya chesno govorya, konkrenot ne znau. Prosto bilo delo obschalsya s rebyatami, kotorie nahodilis' v shtatah dostatochno dolgo i oni govorili shto oni 2 goda ne viezdnie. prosto poischi v internete trebovamia i usloviya vizi J-1 (uveren est' kucha informacii); esli ona na samom dele ostavalas' v shtatah dostatochno dolgo i dolzna ostavatsya na rodine 2 goda, to vrode bi kak to mozno poluchit' tak nazivaemi "2 year J-1 residence waiver" opyat' ze detalei ne znau, no shto to takoe est'...

Kstati, ne znau rabotala li ona posel togo kak pomenyala status na B-1, ya tak ponimau shto da (prosto znakom so shemoi J-1 - na leto, B-1 - ostaok vremeni, glavnoe legal'no ostvatsya v strane i vse takoe...) Prosto status B-1 ne pozvolyaet rabotat', i sam ponimaesh v posol'stve toze ne duraki rabotaut, oni v principe etu sistemu ponimaut...tak shto vam nuzno v sled raz kogda ona poidet podavat' na F-1 obyazatel'no vse eti momenti obgovorit'. V proshlom kstati nebol'shoe "cover letter" pri podache dokumento, v kotorom i obgavarivautsya vse eti momenti mozet ochen' pomoch'... grubo govorya, u konsula est' voprosi kotorie on mozet prosto ne zadat' vo vremya interview i avtomaticheski dlya samogo sebya otvetit' na nih negativno...:( Tak shto v sled raz kogda ona budet podavat' na F-1 ubedites' shto vi v kurse VSEH detalei i vse momenti, kotorie mogut vizvat' voprosi tak ili inache osvescheni...

V celom na schet togo kak ona mozet priehat' v shtati, chesno govorya konechno H viza znachitel'no prosche poluchit', R viza toze variant, ya dumau pri nalichii deneg mozno kak to etot vopros reshit'. Hotya konechno moi sovet esli vi etim putem poidete - delat' vse legal'no i "po nastoyaschemu"... Konechno ze sami prostoi variant podozdat' 3 goda, poluchit' status grazdanina i reshit' vopros za mesyats s minimal'nimi usliliyami i deneznimi zatratami...

Udachi!
 
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