EB3 - Little Optimistic

GC-4-All

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Some one high up in the Administration might have wooped the USICS's ass and said why show the PD as 2002 when there are 98 case still lying around.

Now an example:
USCIS might have looked back and noticed that there are still some couple of 100, 98 cases still around and pushed the PD to reflect the oldest application.

Now once they are done with these cases in a month or two may jump back to 2002.


P.D - Nov 2002
140/485 - RD Oct 2003
140 - AD Feb 2004
485 Inteview March 2005(Verbal Approval)
PP Not Stamped due to Visa Number Unavailable.
2 - FP's
2 - EAD's
 
Same thing I was thinking. Then when they approve or reject the GC for those 4 or 5 guys still waiting from 98 and 99, they'll move up the priority date to 2000, 2001, 2002 over the next few months.
 
Who setup the cut-off date?

Can someone explain the relationship between USCIS and DOS regarding Visa quota? Who setup the cut-off date? I am a little confused.
 
You are ignoring the folks in Backlog with 04/01 PD who wil jump in first

GC-4-All said:
Some one high up in the Administration might have wooped the USICS's ass and said why show the PD as 2002 when there are 98 case still lying around.

Now an example:
USCIS might have looked back and noticed that there are still some couple of 100, 98 cases still around and pushed the PD to reflect the oldest application.

Now once they are done with these cases in a month or two may jump back to 2002.


P.D - Nov 2002
140/485 - RD Oct 2003
140 - AD Feb 2004
485 Inteview March 2005(Verbal Approval)
PP Not Stamped due to Visa Number Unavailable.
2 - FP's
2 - EAD's
 
Its good to be Optimistic.

Hi Folks,

I read somewhere, India has 7% of total 140,000 visa/year for all EB categories, which makes the total green card number/year for Indians as 9800 with following distribution in various categories :-
EB1s Green Card Numbers/Year => 2800
EB2s Green Card Numbers/Year => 2800
EB3s Green Card Numbers/Year => 2800
All other Green Card => 1400
Total => 9800 (Aprx)

And, I am sure, between Jan 98 and Say Jun 2002, there would be much more than 9800, pending 485 cases , which means, it is going to take, per current rate, many years before people would start getting Green Card.

And, also, they won't let submit the new 485 cases as well.

So, indeed, its not going to be a good news.

Best of Luck to Me and to all.
 
My lawyer at Fragomen said

that it is possible that China and India had been borrowing visa numbers from other countries in the last few years (otherwise can't explain the high number of people getting GC) and now is payback time.. if that's true, the situation is even worse... that means for a few years maybe we have less than 9800 per country! Hope it is not true.
 
According to the explanation on Murthy.com, if I understand correctly this could be the rationale:
Imagine we have brand new PERM cases being approved by the thousands and eligible for I-485. Then we have the old cases like mine (April 2002).

If the date is set to "Current", for example, that means that a bunch of recent cases could get processed. If the cut-off dates are set all the way back, that means that the first cases in the queue will be processed, in a First-in-first-out approach.

The only problem is that they are claiming that the November 2005 Bulletin will remain the same. Murthy.com expects changes in such Bulletin only by the beginning of 2006. It is a tough road.
 
inevitable

I was expecting a heavy retrogression but not at this scale. My take on this is that with the backlog clearing efforts, particularly the speed at CSC and VSC large number of Visas were used up. Only alternative was to put heavy retrogression so that by the end of the first quarter visa numbers which probably will be overdrawn this last quarter will even out.

I don't expect any change in date until January. After that, if countries other than I, C, M and P don't use enough Visas to use up quarter quota then per country 7% limit will be artificially suspended to ensure DOS uses up next years visa.

How does it affect us? In a convuluted way it ensures that TSC and NSC clients who were severly disadvantaged due to backlogs at these centers will now have the same ADs as CSC and VSC, because for all purposes will have no one from the above retrogressed countries waiting in line.

Is there a silver lining? Yes, both bills in the house/senate have substantial increases in EbB3 numbers and so if these measures pass then again per country limit may be relaxed. Hopefully TSC and NSC will have had some breathing space and will complete the files in order of PD by then.

In the meantime? I have always believed one needs to get on with life. There are more important things in life. I got married, changed jobs (through AC21) and no doubt promptly filed these changes with TSC through my lawyer. We need to do things we have to do, including visiting relatives overseas etc. We just need to use the instruments such as AP and just lead normal lives just as we would do with a green card. It is a matter of time, in the meantime enjoy the fall and look forward to the winter and all the other joys of life! What about a cake from POJ to celebrate the freedom of having to check DOS bulletins for the remainder of the year?
 
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In my opinion, they are making really good money for each EAD and APs renewals.
That's for sure !!
 
Good response

In_durham said:
I was expecting a heavy retrogression but not at this scale. My take on this is that with the backlog clearing efforts, particularly the speed at CSC and VSC large number of Visas were used up. Only alternative was to put heavy retrogression so that by the end of the first quarter visa numbers which probably will be overdrawn this last quarter will even out.

I don't expect any change in date until January. After that, if countries other than I, C, M and P don't use enough Visas to use up quarter quota then per country 7% limit will be artificially suspended to ensure DOS uses up next years visa.

How does it affect us? In a convuluted way it ensures that TSC and NSC clients who were severly disadvantaged due to backlogs at these centers will now have the same ADs as CSC and VSC, because for all purposes will have no one from the above retrogressed countries waiting in line.

Is there a silver lining? Yes, both bills in the house/senate have substantial increases in EbB3 numbers and so if these measures pass then again per country limit may be relaxed. Hopefully TSC and NSC will have had some breathing space and will complete the files in order of PD by then.

In the meantime? I have always believed one needs to get on with life. There are more important things in life. I got married, changed jobs (through AC21) and no doubt promptly filed these changes with TSC through my lawyer. We need to do things we have to do, including visiting relatives overseas etc. We just need to use the instruments such as AP and just lead normal lives just as we would do with a green card. It is a matter of time, in the meantime enjoy the fall and look forward to the winter and all the other joys of life! What about a cake from POJ to celebrate the freedom of having to check DOS bulletins for the remainder of the year?


By far the best possible response so far to the Visa fiasco. We all need to move on and use all the mean (AC21) etc available to us. GC will come in time.
 
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