EB3 India in Oct 2007

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rsrinivas27

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Gurus:

EB3 is struck in May 2001 and EB-2 in Jan 2003 and seem like there won't be any forward movement in this fiscal year without CIR/Skill which I feel has a very rare chance to pass (hope it makes it this time).

Based on the present conditions, what you guys think about the cut-off dates in the Oct 2007 Bulletin for EB3 India.

Will EB3 move forward to atleast middle of 2002? and Will EB2 stay at the same date or move forward once all the cases from BECs pour in?

I think we need to discuss so that many of us can plan ahead for the next 1-2 yrs.

rsrinivas27
EB3 India, PD April 2002
I-140 Approved
I-485 not filed.
 
According to Murthy.com's update with DOS it might further retrogress for EB3 after summer 2007 unless CIR is passed.
 
Dude, nobody knows how many BEC labors are going to come in the market, how many subs labors have been used at I-140 stage. Given the unknowns and the only known number of 2000 visas for this category, chances are pretty slim.
 
My PD is Sept 2004. If no CIR/SKILL bill it takes aroud 10 years. I am guessing that there are atleast 30,000 EB3 cases from India. Last year EB3 (India) got 3,000 Green Cards. 30,000/3000 = 10 years.
 
You should average it out with the next few years I guess. :)

baby_mde said:
My PD is Sept 2004. If no CIR/SKILL bill it takes aroud 10 years. I am guessing that there are atleast 30,000 EB3 cases from India. Last year EB3 (India) got 3,000 Green Cards. 30,000/3000 = 10 years.
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eb3 RoW current is the key

baby_mde said:
My PD is Sept 2004. If no CIR/SKILL bill it takes aroud 10 years. I am guessing that there are atleast 30,000 EB3 cases from India. Last year EB3 (India) got 3,000 Green Cards. 30,000/3000 = 10 years.
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Once eb3 RoW is current then eb3 India/China should be getting more than 3000 per year.
 
EB-3 RoW can never be current in the short term. Just as EB-3 India is slow that will also be slow. Considering the number of PERMS getting approved, that should be slow.
 
Ok. Since there is a consensus among gurus that EB-3 India would not advance for a few years.

Define how long is the word 'Few' ?

That will help others plan accordingly.

unitednations said:
If there is no quota increase; and ac21 provisions don't apply (ie, spillover every quarter rather then fourth quarter); then eb3 row will never get current

Look at DOL regular permanent labors historical processing times in california, texas, virigina, new jersey, new york. the dates didn't move past april 2001 for four years.

EB retrogression for India is probably going to be the same way. It might bounce around one month forward; two months back for the next few years.
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The banning of labor substitution should help things to get moving. I don't think there are that many real people with PDs of early 2001 and before. What is happening is that those old dates are being used by companies that are sitting on approved labors, waiting for somebody to buy them (or otherwise use them). Even the few approvals we read of on this board are mostly from people using subbed labors, not people who have been in the queue for 6+ years.
 
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Jackolantern said:
The banning of labor substitution should help things to get moving. I don't think there are that many real people with PDs of early 2001 and before. What is happening is that those old dates are being used by companies that are sitting on approved labors, waiting for somebody to buy them (or otherwise use them). Even the few approvals we read of on this board are mostly from people using subbed labors, not people who have been in the queue for 6+ years.
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That's a very interesting topic : I don't know how much impact will Sub Labor have, my guess is pretty significant on pre-2003 labors. But my guess is even this significant wouldn't be more than 50% since there are still people from 2002 and before waiting.Unfortunately for EB3 India even a 50% lift will not do much in the absence of a law change. Without a law change EB3 India is doomed! The stretch could easily be anywhere from 2-10 years!
 
I do not think even the 2-10 year projection is right. With more EB3 applications are getting filed everyday for India, this backlog will create the demand forever and without any legislative changes there is no sight of end of tunnel :(
 
Relief for 2001 PD Filers

Ok...

Can anybody specify any relief for EB-3 India 2001 PD filers?

How long would it take for some of us to even file I-485?

:rolleyes:
 
Those already in the process for a couple years or more might be looking at 2-10 years. But for anybody starting from scratch now in EB3, it would be faster to have kids born in the US and get them to file family-based for you once they grow up.
 
My 2 cents

If DOL keeps the promise, all labor certifications will be cleared from BEC by Sep 2007.If LC substitution is abolished and 45 day validity for LC comes into effect, by the end of Oct 2007 uncertainity in the guestimating of PD will be gone. Thereafter even though there could be retrogression for a few countries,
there will be a steady progression of PD for all counties.
On the other hand,if there is a surge of I 140 filings during sep 2007 - oct 2007,then your GC is not based on any rationale but on highest bid or your horoscope or bingo.
 
unitednations said:
No one wants to stick their neck out. I have said in the past it would take India 10+ years in the current environment.

Just in case people didn't believe; check out the visa dates for phillipine siblings of u.s. citizens.

There are a lot of people here; a lot of people who want to be here. In 2005 there was close to 50,000 greencards handed out to Indian born people. The majority of greencards approved in 2005 was in April 2005 when retrogression for india eb3 was back in 2002. Now; there will only be 10,000 greencards for india ever year. five years to get one year of approvals when eb3 was retrogressed to 2002.
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Resonable. An EB3-Indian with PD 2007 can not imagine to file a 485 in next 20 years. There should be a job offer to him/her by the sponsering employer to file a 485 in 2027 as per the terms and conditions of the LC and 140 that was filed in 2007. It is something impossible and a joke.Therfore, testing the labor market in 2007 for a job oppertunity that is going to exist in 2027 is a hight of stupidity. Then why should DOL allow the employers to test the labor market now? Why does the DOL and USCIS still allow to continue for something imaginary, by wasting federal and employers money, time and energy?

There is a vast difference between FB and EB catagories. Siblings of citizens of Philipines can still immigrate after 20 years of I-130 approval. Because, that relationship will still exists after 20 years. However, it will not practically possible to maintain employer-employee relationship for 20 years after I-140 approval.
 
to tell u the truth, i think the cir will not pass. it will fail like last year, theyre just wasting their time, and playing with other ppl's life. there are SOME ppl in congress who wanna help, but not tht many. ppl r saying oh they will do something, cause democrats are rulling, but they said they were gonna introduce the cir this week, well wednesdays gone, thurs n fri r left, now we just wait n watch on tht shit. its a very long n tiresome thing 2 b in, but u gotta look for the so called "pot of gold" ahead of u. ive just lost faith, tht the congress will actually do something and "PASS SOMETHING".
 
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