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DV winners of former years already living in the USA. Tell your experiences

Lluna

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Hi,

we just received our passports with the visas. Now I have plenty of questions regarding entering the US, housing, employment....

Could those of you who already went through the entery process and are already living in the US and working, explain how things worked out for you?

*Did you enter the US during the first 6 months, activated the visa and went back to your home country before the other 6 months, and entered back the US to stay permanently after that? If so, did the border office cause you any trouble for that?
*What about employment? did you find it from you home country or you could just get one once in the USA?
*Did you have any trouble finding housing giving the lack of US history credit???

Please tell your experiences and shed some light on those, who like my husband and I, are to leave in the upcoming months for the US.

Thanks!!!
 
Hi guys..
I Have the same thing in point 1 :Did you enter the US during the first 6 months, activated the visa and went back to your home country before the other 6 months, and entered back the US to stay permanently after that? If so, did the border office cause you any trouble for that?

I have business that I must to giveover to my brother before I go for long time....So I am going to go activate my GC back to my country & back again after all done

Does anyone in the forum can sugest us ?
 
Lluna,

First of all congratulations on going through the process & getting your visas. I'll try to be as brief as I possibly can, but i know I can detail a lot of things in our experience.

We were 2007 winners. We did our interview in London, UK & received our visas in early 2007. We did enter the US within 6 months; we didnt want to risk the expiry date on the visas passing us by. That said though, we entered 2 weeks before their expiry, which was cutting it close. On landing at LAX (terminal 2) we were pulled aside soon as we handed over our sealed package (I believe you have something similar in your possession now) - anyway we were taken into a side room and filled out some forms that asked only basic information, we were welcomed into the country & we were on our way after about 30mins.

Because of my job, I had to return to London after a 2 week period. The day I arrived in London is the day our green cards arrived in the post. My wife had my green card securely mailed to me.

During the 2 week period I was in the US, we visited the social security office to sort out our social security. Those also arrived soon after the Green Cards. Also, because she was pregnant & didnt have any medical insurance, we were able to apply & receive Medi-Cal, which covered the cost of giving birth. The application was a day-long process, but we walked away having received our Medi-Cal insurance.

I would return to the US a few weeks before she was due. With passport & Green card in hand, it was an undeniably great feeling bypassing the long Non-US Citizens/Residents queue at LAX and getting through customs and immigration in a flash, especially after always having to wait in the endless Non-UK Citizens queues at Heathrow for an hour or so, then being scrutinized no-end by UK Customs and Immigration. I cant deny how I so totally loved the reverse when entering the US.

My stay was short again & I would leave again soon after our child's birth. My family would leave the US a few months later to join me in the UK when our child was in a position to travel.

In the early part of 2008 I returned to the US by myself to look for work. I had tried applying online and was shown interest, did a few interviews on phone, but companies were more interested in follow-up face-to-face interviews, so I made a trip specifically to find work. I was in the US again for about 2 weeks & spent almost every day interviewing and left when I had a couple of good responses but I didnt get a confirmed job offer till I returned to London.

Soon as I had a confirmed job offer and expected start date, we wrapped up our lives in London and moved permanently to the US. We've been settled here now for 2 years. In all it was a crazy experience moving up and down in bits and pieces over a period of time.

Once when re-entering the US alone, I was pulled aside by customs and immigration and taken to the same room at LAX. Admittedly, I wondered if something was wrong and I asked, but the lady was very pleasant and told me not to worry, that there was nothing wrong - they just had to record my entry again and how long I had been out of the US since my last stay, and that as a new green card permanent resident we were given upto 12 months to completely settle from one country to the US coz they understood that not everyone can just up and leave (Coom, I hope that sheds some light on your question). At least thats what they told me. It only happened once, but I made 2 trips back-and-forth between our initial entry and when we last entered to settle for good.

Concerning housing, we didnt have trouble with that. We initially lived with someone we knew, since we knew that we'd all leave the US after that initial entry. They were kind enough to let us stay with them for a few months - we split bills, etc. But before returning as we wrapped up our stay in London, I used the internet to find an apartment within walking distance from my job, since we didnt have a car. There is plenty of sites that lease apartments. Because we didnt have credit though we had to make a full month's deposit on the rent, unlike say a $400 deposit if you have credit history or at least an existing presence in the US. They management company was considerate of our situation and helped make things as easy as possible for us.
 
Wendogg, thank you for your reply and thank you for share your story.... As you said are all green card valid only for 12 months & need to be renew after 12 months ?
 
Lluna,

First of all congratulations on going through the process & getting your visas. I'll try to be as brief as I possibly can, but i know I can detail a lot of things in our experience.

We were 2007 winners. We did our interview in London, UK & received our visas in early 2007. We did enter the US within 6 months; we didnt want to risk the expiry date on the visas passing us by. That said though, we entered 2 weeks before their expiry, which was cutting it close. On landing at LAX (terminal 2) we were pulled aside soon as we handed over our sealed package (I believe you have something similar in your possession now) - anyway we were taken into a side room and filled out some forms that asked only basic information, we were welcomed into the country & we were on our way after about 30mins.

Because of my job, I had to return to London after a 2 week period. The day I arrived in London is the day our green cards arrived in the post. My wife had my green card securely mailed to me.

During the 2 week period I was in the US, we visited the social security office to sort out our social security. Those also arrived soon after the Green Cards. Also, because she was pregnant & didnt have any medical insurance, we were able to apply & receive Medi-Cal, which covered the cost of giving birth. The application was a day-long process, but we walked away having received our Medi-Cal insurance.

I would return to the US a few weeks before she was due. With passport & Green card in hand, it was an undeniably great feeling bypassing the long Non-US Citizens/Residents queue at LAX and getting through customs and immigration in a flash, especially after always having to wait in the endless Non-UK Citizens queues at Heathrow for an hour or so, then being scrutinized no-end by UK Customs and Immigration. I cant deny how I so totally loved the reverse when entering the US.

My stay was short again & I would leave again soon after our child's birth. My family would leave the US a few months later to join me in the UK when our child was in a position to travel.

In the early part of 2008 I returned to the US by myself to look for work. I had tried applying online and was shown interest, did a few interviews on phone, but companies were more interested in follow-up face-to-face interviews, so I made a trip specifically to find work. I was in the US again for about 2 weeks & spent almost every day interviewing and left when I had a couple of good responses but I didnt get a confirmed job offer till I returned to London.

Soon as I had a confirmed job offer and expected start date, we wrapped up our lives in London and moved permanently to the US. We've been settled here now for 2 years. In all it was a crazy experience moving up and down in bits and pieces over a period of time.

Once when re-entering the US alone, I was pulled aside by customs and immigration and taken to the same room at LAX. Admittedly, I wondered if something was wrong and I asked, but the lady was very pleasant and told me not to worry, that there was nothing wrong - they just had to record my entry again and how long I had been out of the US since my last stay, and that as a new green card permanent resident we were given upto 12 months to completely settle from one country to the US coz they understood that not everyone can just up and leave (Coom, I hope that sheds some light on your question). At least thats what they told me. It only happened once, but I made 2 trips back-and-forth between our initial entry and when we last entered to settle for good.

Concerning housing, we didnt have trouble with that. We initially lived with someone we knew, since we knew that we'd all leave the US after that initial entry. They were kind enough to let us stay with them for a few months - we split bills, etc. But before returning as we wrapped up our stay in London, I used the internet to find an apartment within walking distance from my job, since we didnt have a car. There is plenty of sites that lease apartments. Because we didnt have credit though we had to make a full month's deposit on the rent, unlike say a $400 deposit if you have credit history or at least an existing presence in the US. They management company was considerate of our situation and helped make things as easy as possible for us.

Hi wendogg,

Thank you for sharing this with us, especially your wife pregnacy and the insurance. I'm face with the same issue and i will be glad if you can throw more light on that. Eg how much did you pay for the insurance and how it works. I'll move to the states soon and want to know how to handle my wife preganacy when i get there.
 
Wendogg, thank you for your reply and thank you for share your story.... As you said are all green card valid only for 12 months & need to be renew after 12 months ?

It is valid for life and you renew every 10 years.
 
Thanks so much for the info, it was really helpfull!!! as for the employment part, you are so right, as you mentioned, companies right now are interestedf in me but they rather have face to face interviews... so I guess I'll end up havig to do the same as you did...

Again, thant for the info!!!
 
You're welcome Lluna. All the best.

Alexee357 - We didnt pay anything for my wife's medical expenses during her pregnancy - not for pre-natal or post-natal, not for her hospital stay, not for a single thing. Reason why, is because Medi-Cal (California's medicaid program - every state has their own) took care of every single expense. We qualified since we were fresh legal immigrants, who didnt have work, or had any medical insurance with any American provider. Getting on medical insurance with any provider that late in her pregnancy would have been extremely hard. So essentially, the country took us in and the state took care of our medical expenses.

For a few months after that, we qualified for the state's WICs program, which is a federal-funded health and nutrition program for Women, Infants & Children. They see to it that every couple of weeks you are provided with coupons that enable you to buy diapers, juice, milk, and that sort of thing. They look at your income level, but like I've said, if you are new legal immigrant in the country, you may not necessarily have a job already, so no income, nor might you have left behind a great job in the country you have left, or you might have, but they primarily look at your US income.

All that helped. After a year though, we no longer qualified for renewal into Medi-Cal or the WICs program, as we had jobs, and records would show that we are above a certain income level.

Coom - heyMike answered your question. But be cautious with the visa that you receive in your passport after a successful interview. Its only valid for 6 months. Your Green card & residency is not activated till you use that visa within its valid period and travel to America to activate your residency.
 
You're welcome Lluna. All the best.

Alexee357 - We didnt pay anything for my wife's medical expenses during her pregnancy - not for pre-natal or post-natal, not for her hospital stay, not for a single thing. Reason why, is because Medi-Cal (California's medicaid program - every state has their own) took care of every single expense. We qualified since we were fresh legal immigrants, who didnt have work, or had any medical insurance with any American provider. Getting on medical insurance with any provider that late in her pregnancy would have been extremely hard. So essentially, the country took us in and the state took care of our medical expenses.

For a few months after that, we qualified for the state's WICs program, which is a federal-funded health and nutrition program for Women, Infants & Children. They see to it that every couple of weeks you are provided with coupons that enable you to buy diapers, juice, milk, and that sort of thing. They look at your income level, but like I've said, if you are new legal immigrant in the country, you may not necessarily have a job already, so no income, nor might you have left behind a great job in the country you have left, or you might have, but they primarily look at your US income.

All that helped. After a year though, we no longer qualified for renewal into Medi-Cal or the WICs program, as we had jobs, and records would show that we are above a certain income level.

Coom - heyMike answered your question. But be cautious with the visa that you receive in your passport after a successful interview. Its only valid for 6 months. Your Green card & residency is not activated till you use that visa within its valid period and travel to America to activate your residency.

Hi Man,

Thank you very much for this information. I really appreciate it, I'm now certain that my wife will have access to good medical care. Thank you.
 
Good luck with that - now is gonna be very difficult to obtain anything let alone med cal insurance ....i know lost of people who tried recently to get free medical - all of them got rejected - some with pregnant spouse like the guy from uk - state of california is close to be declared bankrupt ...there is no money for free med programs anymore except for existing clients or people with disabilities .
 
Good luck with that - now is gonna be very difficult to obtain anything let alone med cal insurance ....i know lost of people who tried recently to get free medical - all of them got rejected - some with pregnant spouse like the guy from uk - state of california is close to be declared bankrupt ...there is no money for free med programs anymore except for existing clients or people with disabilities .

PRAHA, are you talking from personal experience ? Please share your experience with the forum.

If not, then I'm not sure if you are working on assumptions. The State of California still has an existing medic-aid program and it still continues to support people that need the support. The state may be broke but its still finding ways to raise money to take care of those it can - why else would our taxes have increased over the past couple of years the way they have.

Personally, I know a couple that flew in the country last year in August, and they gave birth in November, at the state's expense. They were not even eligible to receive state support but they still managed to. If you ever want a reason why alot of people are up in arms about immigration reform, then there's one for you !!!!

I believe that if you have a genuine case, like alexee357, and you are a legal immigrant, then you have a very good chance of having your application approved. So I still insist that the moment you arrive in the US, make that a priority. You dont have anything to lose anyway, and everything to gain.
 
Lluna,

First of all congratulations on going through the process & getting your visas. I'll try to be as brief as I possibly can, but i know I can detail a lot of things in our experience.

We were 2007 winners. We did our interview in London, UK & received our visas in early 2007. We did enter the US within 6 months; we didnt want to risk the expiry date on the visas passing us by. That said though, we entered 2 weeks before their expiry, which was cutting it close. On landing at LAX (terminal 2) we were pulled aside soon as we handed over our sealed package (I believe you have something similar in your possession now) - anyway we were taken into a side room and filled out some forms that asked only basic information, we were welcomed into the country & we were on our way after about 30mins.

Because of my job, I had to return to London after a 2 week period. The day I arrived in London is the day our green cards arrived in the post. My wife had my green card securely mailed to me.

During the 2 week period I was in the US, we visited the social security office to sort out our social security. Those also arrived soon after the Green Cards. Also, because she was pregnant & didnt have any medical insurance, we were able to apply & receive Medi-Cal, which covered the cost of giving birth. The application was a day-long process, but we walked away having received our Medi-Cal insurance.

I would return to the US a few weeks before she was due. With passport & Green card in hand, it was an undeniably great feeling bypassing the long Non-US Citizens/Residents queue at LAX and getting through customs and immigration in a flash, especially after always having to wait in the endless Non-UK Citizens queues at Heathrow for an hour or so, then being scrutinized no-end by UK Customs and Immigration. I cant deny how I so totally loved the reverse when entering the US.

My stay was short again & I would leave again soon after our child's birth. My family would leave the US a few months later to join me in the UK when our child was in a position to travel.

In the early part of 2008 I returned to the US by myself to look for work. I had tried applying online and was shown interest, did a few interviews on phone, but companies were more interested in follow-up face-to-face interviews, so I made a trip specifically to find work. I was in the US again for about 2 weeks & spent almost every day interviewing and left when I had a couple of good responses but I didnt get a confirmed job offer till I returned to London.

Soon as I had a confirmed job offer and expected start date, we wrapped up our lives in London and moved permanently to the US. We've been settled here now for 2 years. In all it was a crazy experience moving up and down in bits and pieces over a period of time.

Once when re-entering the US alone, I was pulled aside by customs and immigration and taken to the same room at LAX. Admittedly, I wondered if something was wrong and I asked, but the lady was very pleasant and told me not to worry, that there was nothing wrong - they just had to record my entry again and how long I had been out of the US since my last stay, and that as a new green card permanent resident we were given upto 12 months to completely settle from one country to the US coz they understood that not everyone can just up and leave (Coom, I hope that sheds some light on your question). At least thats what they told me. It only happened once, but I made 2 trips back-and-forth between our initial entry and when we last entered to settle for good.

Concerning housing, we didnt have trouble with that. We initially lived with someone we knew, since we knew that we'd all leave the US after that initial entry. They were kind enough to let us stay with them for a few months - we split bills, etc. But before returning as we wrapped up our stay in London, I used the internet to find an apartment within walking distance from my job, since we didnt have a car. There is plenty of sites that lease apartments. Because we didnt have credit though we had to make a full month's deposit on the rent, unlike say a $400 deposit if you have credit history or at least an existing presence in the US. They management company was considerate of our situation and helped make things as easy as possible for us.

Thank you for sharing your experience.....What kind of jobs can we get there? if we are selected in Green card lottery?
 
Good luck with that - now is gonna be very difficult to obtain anything let alone med cal insurance ....i know lost of people who tried recently to get free medical - all of them got rejected - some with pregnant spouse like the guy from uk - state of california is close to be declared bankrupt ...there is no money for free med programs anymore except for existing clients or people with disabilities .

My brother-in-law, a dv-2009 winner moved to the US (Maryland) in August last year with his wife. The wife gave birth in February 2010 and they applied for the medic-aid which was approved. They are still enjoying this service as I type this post.
 
Hello Wendogg,

Your experience is very enriching especially to those on their way to the Land of no Masters or better the Dream Land.
I know,you are ready to share more ideas to those waiting as well. I am waiting too.My question goes back to police certificate.You stayed in the UK for some time and hadt to collect a police certificate from there,what are the issues on it?and if non,is it possible that anyone refused entry at the UK port of entry would have stated on his/her police certificate?My concern is that I was refused entry into UK two years back because my wife wasnt travelling me but I had stayed in the UK for more than 6months.I dont know if that would appear on the police certificate.Can you help?Cheers
 
I was talking about CALIFORNIA medical not any other state - TWO OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS who lost their jobs recently got rejected by MED CALI service for any kind of medical treatment - one had a wife (7 th month pregnant ) the other one had problem with his foot ( pre existing condition could not get private insurance )
both went through 4-5 weeks phone interview and then personal claims for free medical but nothing came out of it - wife got rejected on grounds that he received severance from his job pay so he can afford private insurance (Kaiser) Now his pay off from the old job was only 6000 dollars from which he already had to pay back some loans (about 3000 dollars)
the other friend went bankrupt but he too was refused free medical treatment - at the end he got to free hospital for check up and got funds from some charity for the surgery - took him about 2 months for that by that time his condition was so bad he could not walk without help ... he was rejected on grounds that his current insurance was still running (but not covering this pre existing condition which he had since childhood ) .... so my guess is everything depend on the rule of the thumb .;with California ... its gonna be difficult to get anything trust me on that
 
I was talking about CALIFORNIA medical not any other state - TWO OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS who lost their jobs recently got rejected by MED CALI service for any kind of medical treatment - one had a wife (7 th month pregnant ) the other one had problem with his foot ( pre existing condition could not get private insurance )
both went through 4-5 weeks phone interview and then personal claims for free medical but nothing came out of it - wife got rejected on grounds that he received severance from his job pay so he can afford private insurance (Kaiser) Now his pay off from the old job was only 6000 dollars from which he already had to pay back some loans (about 3000 dollars)
the other friend went bankrupt but he too was refused free medical treatment - at the end he got to free hospital for check up and got funds from some charity for the surgery - took him about 2 months for that by that time his condition was so bad he could not walk without help ... he was rejected on grounds that his current insurance was still running (but not covering this pre existing condition which he had since childhood ) .... so my guess is everything depend on the rule of the thumb .;with California ... its gonna be difficult to get anything trust me on that

I understand where you are coming from and I totally agree with your viewpoint but here we are talking about new immigrant who have not had any kind of job or insurance in the US.
 
Hello Wendogg,

Your experience is very enriching especially to those on their way to the Land of no Masters or better the Dream Land.
I know,you are ready to share more ideas to those waiting as well. I am waiting too.My question goes back to police certificate.You stayed in the UK for some time and hadt to collect a police certificate from there,what are the issues on it?and if non,is it possible that anyone refused entry at the UK port of entry would have stated on his/her police certificate?My concern is that I was refused entry into UK two years back because my wife wasnt travelling me but I had stayed in the UK for more than 6months.I dont know if that would appear on the police certificate.Can you help?Cheers

Hi I don't think every immigration issue will appear on police certificate. In the UK, the following will show up on your police certificate: all Convictions, Warnings, Reprimands and Cautions that are recorded on the Police National Computer (PNC).

The ACPO which prepares the police certificates applies the principles of the ‘Retention Guidelines for Nominal Records on the Police National Computer‘, which incorporates the Step Down Model, when preparing the Police Certificate.

According to the Step Down Model, where a recordable offence is dealt with by way of Penalty Notice for Disorder (PND), that event can be recorded in the PNC but will not be regarded as a criminal conviction and therefore will not appear on police certificates.

Once you were not subject to any custodial sentence but merely denied entry to the UK, your police certificate may not contain any recordable offence.

I was once arrested, fingerprinted and my DNA taken and stored on the Police National Computer, but no further action was taken against me in respect of the case - my Police Certificate shows 'No Record'.

You can get the UK police certificate application form and guidance notes at http://www.acpo.police.uk/Certificates/Application Form Version 11 - English.pdf

Check here also http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/iv/ukpc.html
 
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I was talking about CALIFORNIA medical not any other state - TWO OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS who lost their jobs recently got rejected by MED CALI service for any kind of medical treatment - one had a wife (7 th month pregnant ) the other one had problem with his foot ( pre existing condition could not get private insurance )
both went through 4-5 weeks phone interview and then personal claims for free medical but nothing came out of it - wife got rejected on grounds that he received severance from his job pay so he can afford private insurance (Kaiser) Now his pay off from the old job was only 6000 dollars from which he already had to pay back some loans (about 3000 dollars)
the other friend went bankrupt but he too was refused free medical treatment - at the end he got to free hospital for check up and got funds from some charity for the surgery - took him about 2 months for that by that time his condition was so bad he could not walk without help ... he was rejected on grounds that his current insurance was still running (but not covering this pre existing condition which he had since childhood ) .... so my guess is everything depend on the rule of the thumb .;with California ... its gonna be difficult to get anything trust me on that

PRAHA, thank you for sharing your friends' experience. Its a sad situation that they were in and I do empathize with them. I dont think the rule of thumb with California is that its going to be difficult to get anything, but that said though, I agree that we are living in different economic times and the State is cash strapped, so every case I expect will be handled on a case by case basis.

With your friends, their application processing took into account the fact that they had some sort of existing insurance from their job, that was still current (sometimes thats upto about 3 months after you've been laid off), and so that probably went against them, despite the fact that after that they would soon be without insurance.

In comparison though, a fresh immigrant does not have any kind of record in the American system of medical insurance either private or through work, nor any record proving income-level and the like that all count towards a decision on whether you are approved or not.

Now I'm not saying the system is completely fair - evidence of that is everywhere and hopefully health reform will bring about correction - but I was talking from personal experience and options that new permanent legal immigrants should look at, because chances are good that they would qualify and they have nothing to lose by submitting and application.
 
Hi I don't think every immigration issue will appear on police certificate. In the UK, the following will show up on your police certificate: all Convictions, Warnings, Reprimands and Cautions that are recorded on the Police National Computer (PNC).

The ACPO which prepares the police certificates applies the principles of the ‘Retention Guidelines for Nominal Records on the Police National Computer‘, which incorporates the Step Down Model, when preparing the Police Certificate.

According to the Step Down Model, where a recordable offence is dealt with by way of Penalty Notice for Disorder (PND), that event can be recorded in the PNC but will not be regarded as a criminal conviction and therefore will not appear on police certificates.

Once you were not subject to any custodial sentence but merely denied entry to the UK, your police certificate may not contain any recordable offence.

I was once arrested, fingerprinted and my DNA taken and stored on the Police National Computer, but no further action was taken against me in respect of the case - my Police Certificate shows 'No Record'.

You can get the UK police certificate application form and guidance notes at http://www.acpo.police.uk/Certificates/Application Form Version 11 - English.pdf

Check here also http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/iv/ukpc.html


Hello Njangah, ammeck09 has provided some great information on this.

From what I understand, the police certificate is just to show record of any criminal activity that might be a red flag to US immigration and not necessarily your a record of your immigration history in the country that you are requesting a police certificate from.
 
PRAHA, thank you for sharing your friends' experience. Its a sad situation that they were in and I do empathize with them. I dont think the rule of thumb with California is that its going to be difficult to get anything, but that said though, I agree that we are living in different economic times and the State is cash strapped, so every case I expect will be handled on a case by case basis.

With your friends, their application processing took into account the fact that they had some sort of existing insurance from their job, that was still current (sometimes thats upto about 3 months after you've been laid off), and so that probably went against them, despite the fact that after that they would soon be without insurance.

In comparison though, a fresh immigrant does not have any kind of record in the American system of medical insurance either private or through work, nor any record proving income-level and the like that all count towards a decision on whether you are approved or not.

Now I'm not saying the system is completely fair - evidence of that is everywhere and hopefully health reform will bring about correction - but I was talking from personal experience and options that new permanent legal immigrants should look at, because chances are good that they would qualify and they have nothing to lose by submitting and application.

system is pretty much strapped for cash as you noticed - I too got rejected by CAL social service for emergency medical - lucky thing is I was planing on going back home so I had it after all in my country
California introduced obligatory "residency standard" of 3 MONTHS for everyone asking for free medical so you HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA of 3 months in order to obtain free medical ;;; THIS GOES TO FOR NEW - FRESH IMMIGRANTS TOO
WHEN i WAS CHASING MY FREE DENTAL I NOTICED SOME NEW IMMIGRANTS AND THEY ALSO GOT REJECTED RIGHT THERE AND THEN ,so its pretty tough I think - also it might get worse considering that CALIFORNIA state legislators are pushing the rule of 6 months for residency ...in order to stop "wave of out of state residents" coming over to California to"sponge " free medical
 
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