Don't sweat it!

rjgpl

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It feels like I'm one of the last from my cohort (arrivals in 1993) to get citizenship. My naturalization interview was today and went very smoothly.

My greencard took forever until I got it in June 2001. Anyways, I wanted to record my sincere appreciation for all the hard work put in by volunteers in this wonderful gift economy called internet in the form of these forums. Rajiv must be an enlightened soul to have embraced the online world and providing 'free' advice so willingly over the years.

For those still in line for various assorted approvals, notices of actions and general bureaucratic nods, I've some hindsight-based wisdom:

1. I have found that in dealing with US Government, it pays to be a bit more 'anal' about your preparations compared to the Indian 'chalta hai' attitude. Doesn't mean you run to Staples and get separators and files/folders and go to the n'th degree to get organized. But don't expect the US govt. to cut you slack if you misplace documents etc.
2. If you keep reading this forums too much you WILL develop a bit of paranoia. It helps to keep your sanity if you just follow common sense and not go overboard worrying about that interview or fingerprinting.
3. I read up on the list of documents to take to the interview but deliberately disregarded a lot of bull. I simply went with the list required by the appointment letter (and the photocopy generic list provided alongwith the letter). This was more than sufficient.
4. The problem was with the photographs...I had taken one with a slightly angled face as was the norm earlier. But apparently the rules have changed...they require the full frontal one and the officer told me not to bother removing my glasses. We went downstairs and got it done in 10 minutes and returned to resume the proceedings.
5. The officer simply asked almost all the questions from the N-400 verbally and of course, my case being simple, had all the "right" answers.
6. In NY, the procedures of making people wait for over 3 hours for essentially a 20 minute interview seems excessive. However, I'm sure they have played around with several options and have concluded this is the most optimal.

Humor:

There were a couple of oriental-looking girls in their 20's. One of them was repeatedly asking the other one, "Who wrote the star-spangled banner?" in a thick accent, which was funny when you heard it the fifth time :). Then the lawyer advising them arrived and took over the prep. So, he goes..."Do you believe in the Constitution?" And the girl responds, "No". He arches his eyebrows and says..."No. You answer NO when the question is 'Have you ever engaged in prostitution?' For consitution, you answer, YES". And on and on it goes, providing much needed humor. He gives a little cheatsheet - Always answer NO when the question begins 'Have you ever'. Always answer YES, if the question begins 'Are you willing'.
 
I'll second that suggestion to take it easy and not sweat the combinations of ways things might go wrong. I also believe the document checklist is rather bloated, and most people with straight forward cases hav no need of anything beyond the officially requested docs. If you fall outside the norm for whatever reason, spend the time and research what else you'll likely be asked to provide. Mostly its common sense stuff... e.g. tax returns, court records etc.
 
Real funny!!
thanks for the humour.
Congratulations.
rjgpl said:
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Humor:

There were a couple of oriental-looking girls in their 20's. One of them was repeatedly asking the other one, "Who wrote the star-spangled banner?" in a thick accent, which was funny when you heard it the fifth time :). Then the lawyer advising them arrived and took over the prep. So, he goes..."Do you believe in the Constitution?" And the girl responds, "No". He arches his eyebrows and says..."No. You answer NO when the question is 'Have you ever engaged in prostitution?' For consitution, you answer, YES". And on and on it goes, providing much needed humor. He gives a little cheatsheet - Always answer NO when the question begins 'Have you ever'. Always answer YES, if the question begins 'Are you willing'.
 
Just to give an idea of how little by way of docs I took...here is my list:

1. Appointment Letter
2. Passport
3. Green Card
4. Driving License
5. Social Security Card (which was never asked for)

and just remember the requirements for the photograph - frontal regular passport style.
 
Good point. I always wonder about why some people in this forum are getting paranoid and asking questions as if the world is going to end. I can understand the eagerness and worry in non-immigrant visa or GC cases, but if you have a clean record after GC, just take it easy.
The most unbelievable one was someone asking if they can file that day or next day to fall within 90 days prior to 5 years!
 
premo said:
Good point. I always wonder about why some people in this forum are getting paranoid and asking questions as if the world is going to end. I can understand the eagerness and worry in non-immigrant visa or GC cases, but if you have a clean record after GC, just take it easy.
The most unbelievable one was someone asking if they can file that day or next day to fall within 90 days prior to 5 years!

I think you hit the nail right on the head. The process is notr rocket science. Here are the steps:
1. Find out what is required, application, fees, photos, other docs( divorce decree or marriage cert etc). there is a checklist on the USCIS website.
2. Put the documents together and mail them.
3. Follow instructions as you receive them.

Why do some people like to make simple things seem very complicated. I mean if you have 1 month to meet the five year GC requirement, what is the incentive to file before then. I mean, golly, you don't become a citizen in a few days.
Plus if you have a GC you have do almost anything except vote.

When I filed my N-400, I did not throw in anything not asked of me. All court cases had their dispositions etc etc.
Actually I became a PR in 2000 so technically I could have filed in 2005. I chose to wait an extra year . Worked like a charm, I am not suggesting 6 years is the lucky number, just don't seem to eager to get there, you will if you play it well.

To be honest, being a USC feels good. Travel is a breeze, truly, went to France and England and Spain, hmm hmm hmm..that passport is powerful..Enjoy and good luck
 
I agree but I'll also recommend that anyone filing should submit all the necessary evidence along with the form and then go to the interview with what has been requested or the originals of the documents that you sent with the application.

When I went to interview last month, the officer only asked for my G card along with my Driver license and passport. I took originals of the my docs but none were requested.

I think it is always good to submit docs that show that you are living with your spouse if you are filing under the 3 year rule.
 
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