Don't know where to look for - Immig. to Canada

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Bindaas

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Guys,
I know, this is not the perfect forum to ask, but I am also sure that you guys have tons of information on any topic in this world. I want to help a friend of mine to immig. to Canada(from India), please tell me where to look for, what web site, who is the right person, any reference for the attorney or any other information that you feel a person who does not know a bit about Canadian immig should know about.
Thanks
 
Bindaas said:
Guys,
I know, this is not the perfect forum to ask, but I am also sure that you guys have tons of information on any topic in this world. I want to help a friend of mine to immig. to Canada(from India), please tell me where to look for, what web site, who is the right person, any reference for the attorney or any other information that you feel a person who does not know a bit about Canadian immig should know about.
Thanks
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I personaly know several people including a family member and close friend who migrated to Canada and found it impossible to get any job related to their profession (both of them well qualified). Most of the new immigrants to Canada work on hourly minimum wages just to survive. Please advise your friend to do some research before considering to migrate to Canada.
 
armie said:
I personaly know several people including a family member and close friend who migrated to Canada and found it impossible to get any job related to their profession (both of them well qualified). Most of the new immigrants to Canada work on hourly minimum wages just to survive. Please advise your friend to do some research before considering to migrate to Canada.
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Do you think even Software professional will have problem ??
 
hi bindaas,
i went to canada as an immigrant in 98 and moved to usa in 99. as a medical professional i didnt have many opportunities to do there and lots of the others who were also qualified and experienced in other fields were struggling to find suitable jobs, but software people were doing ok at that time. if they have any experience then they used to find jobs. well at that time the trend was try and move to usa as quickly as possible. thats what i did inspite of finding a position there. if ur friend has a choice between us and canada, i will say go for usa rather than canada. but if u have a job, then toronto is a good place to live.gl.
 
I have been in Canada in year 2000, it is just sucks, no jobs and very expensive all the people and mostly hi tech living on the well fair.

For sure it is bad idea.

Your fried should think about it 100s of times before he do this move.
 
I485sept03 said:
I have been in Canada in year 2000, it is just sucks, no jobs and very expensive all the people and mostly hi tech living on the well fair.

For sure it is bad idea.

Your fried should think about it 100s of times before he do this move.
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Sir Canada is not as bad as you painted it Infact it is the best place to live. If you trying to compare Canada with countries other than US it is like comparing Heaven and Hell. For your information there is no one living with well fair with the education and expertise you mentioned except one choose to live with Government help. Do you know Canada is the only country that you can live with no discrimination no matter what your race, color and religion is. Do you know there is no segregation and second citizen in Canada from the minute you land in. Please do not advice anyone on the things you do not know much. If you left Canada because you couldn't find a job specially in a year 2000 that shows you are not the best or not capable to compete with the best educated and knowledgeable people that Canada produce. Do you try to find jobs other than Toronto say Alberta, Vancouver and in other provinces of Canada I guess you don't. Do not forget Canada gives you the opportunity and the path to your success. I do not know where your country of origin is but I can assure you Canada is much much better than the place where you come from. Canada supports its immigrants and citizen when one needs help and the system provides housing, food and FREE health care the three most important things for any human being to survive. Do you get this kind of support in USA I doubt it. My friend Please do not take this as if I am insulting you this is to clear out the reality and the truth about Canada.
 
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Let me answer you on item by item,

Job opportunities: just go to Monster.ca and search for Programmers and then do the same search in USA and let me know what you see.

Discriminations: I have 3 brothers all Canadian Citizens and they can tell how discriminations are working in Canada in a systematic way against all minorities inclauding natives.

Best Place Ever: that is really funny. It is not better than India in anyway.
 
Canada is nice place to live if you have good job.
But getting the first job is the toughest part because Canadian
employers discriminate severly against job seekers without prior
Canadian experience. I've have heard people who migrated to Canada
after few years of US work experience having much better luck.
Many people who move to Canada from Singapore/MiddleEast lament their decision. For people who think Canada is much better than India are not
aware of the current day Banglore/Hyderabad.
 
Thanks a lot guys for all your words. To be frank with you, I am so confused after reading this and other threads about Canada. I do not know what to suggest him.
First of all, my friend is not doing well in India, he is frustrated and wants change, He is good educated, but is not high skilled worker. Will he get good life in Canada, I am sure, he will have to struggle initially.
Does he have any other option other than Canada, which is better and easy to migrate to?
I want to give my friend a best suggestion and not something that turns out as disaster for his life. Please advice!
 
Bindass,

Advice your friend to apply for High Skilled Visa for UK, it is a work permit for 3 years, and if he find a company sponser hem for citizen ship he can get it in 3 years after filing.

Salaries in UK not like USA but I am very sure there is alot of jobs for IT people there.

I did a contract jop there and it is much better for future building than Canada.

This Visa can be approved in 30 days maximum. but he has to show a letter of income in India.
 
I485sept03 said:
Bindass,

Advice your friend to apply for High Skilled Visa for UK, it is a work permit for 3 years, and if he find a company sponser hem for citizen ship he can get it in 3 years after filing.

Salaries in UK not like USA but I am very sure there is alot of jobs for IT people there.

I did a contract jop there and it is much better for future building than Canada.

This Visa can be approved in 30 days maximum. but he has to show a letter of income in India.
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Can one apply for the visa on his own or needs some sponcering company of UK? How one should apply?
 
I485sept03 said:
Let me answer you on item by item,

Job opportunities: just go to Monster.ca and search for Programmers and then do the same search in USA and let me know what you see.

Discriminations: I have 3 brothers all Canadian Citizens and they can tell how discriminations are working in Canada in a systematic way against all minorities inclauding natives.

Best Place Ever: that is really funny. It is not better than India in anyway.
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It is not better than India in anyway.

I think you live in different planet. Are you comparing India with Canada? For your information out of 1 B + people living in India may be a fraction of 1% live a better life but the rest is still in day to day living situation. That is thinking what to eat for the rest of the day let alone for tomorrow. Please do not tell us India is better than Canada we all know what India is and offer to her people. I know we love our country no matter what but going beyond the reality is an obstacle to work hard and for those of us who are fortunate to find a way to improve the life of our people.

" Discriminations: I have 3 brothers all Canadian Citizens and they can tell how discriminations are working in Canada in a systematic way against all minorities including natives."

You know what when I first arrived in Canada in mid 80s the system was perfect and ready to help new immigrants to improve the way of living by giving almost free high level education, work replacement and any help that you might think off. Now most abuse the system people became greedy and the system couldn't afford to support those who choose to abuse it. Even People who are on high post applied the policy that failed their country of origin in the system that was open to all. For example people from Europe doesn't give a chance to people who came from other countries to join and work in their sectors: Indians do the same, Chinese do the same, Africans do the same, Arabs do the same. For those of us who has no connection the chance to work on professional job is very slime even coffee shops hire there own people. Some times they wait for their relatives or some one to arrive in Canada from their native country to offer him/her the job while some people waiting for years to get in. I am not saying or generalize all immigrants but that was what I felt and we immigrants are the one who breaks the system and the first to complain. Even here in US I am noticing the same trend that I have seen in Canada. Those highly educated and respected pass opening to their own ppl when there is one who is suitable for the Job.


Regards,
 
WWoosen,

Did you know despite all the goodness Canada has, it is the country with the highest depression rate in the world? I wonder how that happens on a so called "paradise"???

Unless Canadians change the way their economy and immigration is being handled, it could very soon be as bad as a third world country.
 
WaitinginQ said:
WWoosen,

Did you know despite all the goodness Canada has, it is the country with the highest depression rate in the world? I wonder how that happens on a so called "paradise"???

Unless Canadians change the way their economy and immigration is being handled, it could very soon be as bad as a third world country.
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And your source is???? What a stupid thing to say!!! You tell me that Canada's depression rate is higher than Sierra Leone, Sri Lanka, or even Iraq? Dude, your rear end doesn't count as a reliable source of information.

For those of you that dream up stuff on the fly, why don't you go look at the United Nation's rankings for the most desirable place to live for the last ten yearly reports? (IIRC, Canada was #1 for a long time, and just last year slipped to 2nd or 3rd or something like that.)

Wwossen, Canucks rule (grasmick rules too, I think I seen you there :), don't argue with these idiots, let them go back to Bangalore and earn their $750 a month.

(PS. don't forget, that a lot of the Indians in North America are from the top of their caste system, so yes they had priviledged life in India and of course they can say it was good. As it is said, "the one eyed man is King along the blind." BTW, "equality of all"--that you so eloquently talked about--is not particularly their cup of tea.)
 
Thanks a lot guys, no blame, but I am more confused, I will do one thing, I will ask my friend to look at this forum and decide on his own as I am unable to decide.

Thanks again
 
Bindaas,
If your friend is not doing well in India chances are he will struggle in Canada.
It is easier to find a job in H1 than to get one in Canada with PR.
 
SirZ said:
Wwossen, Canucks rule (grasmick rules too, I think I seen you there :), don't argue with these idiots, let them go back to Bangalore and earn their $750 a month.
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How do you know $750 is what software engineers are paid in Banglore?
Current rates are 12-15 lacks pa. roughly equal to $1500 -$1750 pm after taxes -easily provides better standard of living than with C$5k pm.
It is stupid to compare the standard of living of two countries in dollar numbers. For ex: A good house in Banglore costs ~$50k; a heart bypass surgeory costs <$5k ,my parents spend a whole of $1000 dollars for my world class bachelor's degree. Before you say India is crowed and polluted, I would
take it over frozen and dark six months a year.
SirZ said:
(PS. don't forget, that a lot of the Indians in North America are from the top of their caste system, so yes they had priviledged life in India and of course they can say it was good. )
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And your source is???? What a stupid thing to say!!! Dude, your rear end doesn't count as a reliable source of information :D


PS: I have two naturally born Caucasian Canadians working in my team on H1/TN visas. Judging by their eagerness to get GC, one would imagine Canada is worse than sub-Saharan Africa:)
 
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I lived in Canada for 3 years and did not find a job there and now I have a really good job in the USA. But I have to be honest with you; I would like to live in Canada. People are nice, system cares about everyone, and basic education is free. What else you expect? Money is not every thing. There are other good things in life too.
The very point that Canadian immigration has opened its door to 3rd world countries shows that they are more open to immigrants than US. Just go to the US-Canadian border and see the attitudes of Canadian immigration officer and then turn back and look how you get treated by INS inspector. You find more red necks here than in Canada and although Canada is not as rich as US but I am pretty sure people are more caring and are concerned about the rest of the world. In USA we have the attitude that we own the world and the rest of world is nothing but there to help us. Remember "either you are with us or against us". BTW discrimination is every where, especially in India where people in Mahraster hates Gujraties and people in Banglore despise people of North. I can count countless riots and bigotry events that happened in India and are still happening. It’s a shame that we try our tails off to get Canadian immigration and as we get to Canada then start dissing that beautiful country. Anybody who has an illusion of Indian being a better place to live go to Canadian High Commission and see the miles long lines of applicant in front of Visa section..
 
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