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For those who are complaining about retrogression, please look at my case:

I came US in 95, got MS degree in 97, applied GC in 98 and still waiting. I got laid off once and I resigned twice. Right now I'm on 10th year H1B. (just got 3 year extension after I-140 approval).

I still feel life is treating me good. I'm earning $94,000 per year, have a house and two beautiful children. I have a gut feeling that a new law will come out within a few months to solve the retrogression problem - either SKIL or recapture 90,000 unused visas. Otherwise, who else has as much patience as me to continue to stay here? India and China are rising!! Lots of chinese and indians are going back. The US government know they need us!!! No worry!! No lobby!!!

I haven't seen my mother for 12 years just because I didn't want to risk leaving US without a GC. Now wife and I decided to go to US consulate in Mxico to get my H-1B stamped and then go back China to visit. It's obviously easier and more convenient that doing that in CHina. I need your kind advice. The following are my questions:

1. If I get approved, do I get the visa on the same day? Or you have to wait in mexico several days to get the visa? The answer will help me plan the trip.

2. My wife and I don’t have our original I-94s any more because we changed status from F-1 (F-2) to H1 (H4) from our original entry about 10 years ago. Is the new blank I-94 attached to our recent approval letters enough to leave and re-enter US?

3. My wife got denied H4 before because I didn’t apply for her timely. Then later we appealed and get re-approved. Could my wife get a 10-year bar because she overstayed more than 365 days? If yes, how does the officer at the port of entry know that she overstayed? Because she was never in any removal proceedings and no one asked her to leave US.

Thanks in advance and keep smiling!!! Remember, we have better life than many US citizens!!! Foe me, a H1B visa stamp is no different from a green card :)
 
Life is good when you haven't seen your mother in 12 years?? My friend, thats not a life.

gcchina said:
For those who are complaining about retrogression, please look at my case:

I came US in 95, got MS degree in 97, applied GC in 98 and still waiting. I got laid off once and I resigned twice. Right now I'm on 10th year H1B. (just got 3 year extension after I-140 approval).

I still feel life is treating me good. I'm earning $94,000 per year, have a house and two beautiful children. I have a gut feeling that a new law will come out within a few months to solve the retrogression problem - either SKIL or recapture 90,000 unused visas. Otherwise, who else has as much patience as me to continue to stay here? India and China are rising!! Lots of chinese and indians are going back. The US government know they need us!!! No worry!! No lobby!!!

I haven't seen my mother for 12 years just because I didn't want to risk leaving US without a GC. Now wife and I decided to go to US consulate in Mxico to get my H-1B stamped and then go back China to visit. It's obviously easier and more convenient that doing that in CHina. I need your kind advice. The following are my questions:

1. If I get approved, do I get the visa on the same day? Or you have to wait in mexico several days to get the visa? The answer will help me plan the trip.

2. My wife and I don’t have our original I-94s any more because we changed status from F-1 (F-2) to H1 (H4) from our original entry about 10 years ago. Is the new blank I-94 attached to our recent approval letters enough to leave and re-enter US?

3. My wife got denied H4 before because I didn’t apply for her timely. Then later we appealed and get re-approved. Could my wife get a 10-year bar because she overstayed more than 365 days? If yes, how does the officer at the port of entry know that she overstayed? Because she was never in any removal proceedings and no one asked her to leave US.

Thanks in advance and keep smiling!!! Remember, we have better life than many US citizens!!! Foe me, a H1B visa stamp is no different from a green card :)
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Absolutely right!!

I would rather go back home if given a condition that I can't visit my parents!!

It's almost impossible for me living without seeing parents for 12 years!!

I wouldn't count it bravery!!

When I read couple of lines of your message it was giving me courage but as soon as I was you didn't visit to see your mother for 12 years, that really make me upset :mad:

I have been into this country since 1998 and I have visited 5 times to my parents in India.


puhrince said:
Life is good when you haven't seen your mother in 12 years?? My friend, thats not a life.
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Agreed. If you don't even visit yr home country for 12 loooong yrs where yr parents live,that to me is NOT good life... that is life wasted and can't be got back !!

"The US government know they need us!!! No worry!! No lobby!!!" --- Common gime a break! The US goverment doesn't give a damn abt immigrants. If you understand how the political system works in this country,U wouldn't be saying this. if you don't voice yr opinion/concern you will get NOTHING here!! For you just sitting idle and doing nothing, but hoping something will eventually help you out might work,but for most people like me,that is NOT an option.

I don't understand yr decision of not going to china without a GC,but then you say you have decided to go to mexico to get the visa stamping,given the history of yr wife's case. If I were you I would decide against it,since mexican consulate is known to be notorious in denials.
 
gcchina........i give credit for your optimism..........

but thats not the way a immigrant is supposed to live his life........being pessimistic and proactive every step is the only way we can prevent the cracks in the system from swallowing us....

i agree with others that not visiting home country for 12 years.....is not bravery.........thats a desperation.......if you did not visit your home country just because you did not wanted to go for stamping with the fear of denial...........

but maybe we do not know your situation......i hope nobody has to do what you have done to stay in usa.....
 
The guy who started this thread, did you consider bringing your parents here on a visitor visa? I am not sure if you considered that option.
 
Can you imagine your two beautiful children leaving you and then you not being able to see them for 12 years (or more)?

Now think about how it is for your own parents.

I've lived here for more than 8 yrs and made 4 trips to India in the meantime and am thinking of going for Diwali this year (October). :)

I will most definitely give you credit for your optimism and cheerfulness. There are a lot of others who are in a better position than you and are complaining more. However that is not not because they're pessimistic. It's the frustration talking.

Anyway, it's your life and you've made your choices.

All said and done, the tone of your post was meant to encourage others who are feeling frustrated. And your tone is very positive. Cheers to that! :)
 
Your's and mine situation are quite similar..I am also planning to go to India in Diwali..

nj_skm said:
Can you imagine your two beautiful children leaving you and then you not being able to see them for 12 years (or more)?

Now think about how it is for your own parents.

I've lived here for more than 8 yrs and made 4 trips to India in the meantime and am thinking of going for Diwali this year (October). :)

I will most definitely give you credit for your optimism and cheerfulness. There are a lot of others who are in a better position than you and are complaining more. However that is not not because they're pessimistic. It's the frustration talking.

Anyway, it's your life and you've made your choices.

All said and done, the tone of your post was meant to encourage others who are feeling frustrated. And your tone is very positive. Cheers to that! :)
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You haven't seen your mother in 12 years just because of a damn visa and you feel alright about that?

gcchina said:
For those who are complaining about retrogression, please look at my case:

I came US in 95, got MS degree in 97, applied GC in 98 and still waiting. I got laid off once and I resigned twice. Right now I'm on 10th year H1B. (just got 3 year extension after I-140 approval).

I still feel life is treating me good. I'm earning $94,000 per year, have a house and two beautiful children. I have a gut feeling that a new law will come out within a few months to solve the retrogression problem - either SKIL or recapture 90,000 unused visas. Otherwise, who else has as much patience as me to continue to stay here? India and China are rising!! Lots of chinese and indians are going back. The US government know they need us!!! No worry!! No lobby!!!

I haven't seen my mother for 12 years just because I didn't want to risk leaving US without a GC. Now wife and I decided to go to US consulate in Mxico to get my H-1B stamped and then go back China to visit. It's obviously easier and more convenient that doing that in CHina. I need your kind advice. The following are my questions:

1. If I get approved, do I get the visa on the same day? Or you have to wait in mexico several days to get the visa? The answer will help me plan the trip.

2. My wife and I don’t have our original I-94s any more because we changed status from F-1 (F-2) to H1 (H4) from our original entry about 10 years ago. Is the new blank I-94 attached to our recent approval letters enough to leave and re-enter US?

3. My wife got denied H4 before because I didn’t apply for her timely. Then later we appealed and get re-approved. Could my wife get a 10-year bar because she overstayed more than 365 days? If yes, how does the officer at the port of entry know that she overstayed? Because she was never in any removal proceedings and no one asked her to leave US.

Thanks in advance and keep smiling!!! Remember, we have better life than many US citizens!!! Foe me, a H1B visa stamp is no different from a green card :)
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The Moral Police strikes again!!!

Once again, we see a barrage of rhetoric and criticism and judgement calls against those who have lived their lives differently, or not shared our "values" and "ideologies".

Are we ever going to grow out of it? I think not and have come to accept that fact. But when necessary, I will dare to point it out, albeit at the risk of becoming the target of their angst and tirades.

Just becuase gochina chose to (or was compelled to) not see his parents for 12 years, makes him "desperate" and not brave, and everything else in between?

It's easy to sit back, be an arm-chair critic and judge the world based on our narrow, tunnel-vision ideology (if I like apples, and you don't, may the scourge be upon you, mentality).

I have stated again and again that "in theory" we have one of the best educated foreigners on this forum, representing a wide section of professionals from various fields, yet pervasively, I see this slam-fest at the slightest deviation (from our holier-than-thou values).

If it was an exception I'd let it pass, but no sooner somebody posts opinion that's "alien" to us, out come the daggers and vile tongues. Here I would say, that being an indian, I'm ashamed to admit that it's usually the indians who
produce the most obnoxious and degrading responses.

I suspect the burden of ZERO (or marginal) visa bulletin movements is indeed weighing down very heavy on some of us and the line between civility and downright nasty is becoming blurred with each passing day.

I have been waiting for over six years for this god-forsaken GC, yet I see no need to turn vicious or take out my anger at another...though the temptation certainly offers itself to me.
 
Thank you all for your comments. I did try to bring my parents here to visit. But somehow my mother got denied B-1 visa three times and my fathewr got the visa on his first try and visited us.

I haven't filed I-485 yet. PD 10/07/2005, EB-2, China.
 
GC_TRAP,

I think if our Chinese fellow had said that he doesn't see his mother due to his personal preference, the reactions could be different. However, from his e-mail I perceived that seeing his mother is something he would like to do. That's why we got so many people surprised by position.

Regards,

Marlon

GC_TRAP said:
Once again, we see a barrage of rhetoric and criticism and judgement calls against those who have lived their lives differently, or not shared our "values" and "ideologies".

Are we ever going to grow out of it? I think not and have come to accept that fact. But when necessary, I will dare to point it out, albeit at the risk of becoming the target of their angst and tirades.

Just becuase gochina chose to (or was compelled to) not see his parents for 12 years, makes him "desperate" and not brave, and everything else in between?

It's easy to sit back, be an arm-chair critic and judge the world based on our narrow, tunnel-vision ideology (if I like apples, and you don't, may the scourge be upon you, mentality).

I have stated again and again that "in theory" we have one of the best educated foreigners on this forum, representing a wide section of professionals from various fields, yet pervasively, I see this slam-fest at the slightest deviation (from our holier-than-thou values).

If it was an exception I'd let it pass, but no sooner somebody posts opinion that's "alien" to us, out come the daggers and vile tongues. Here I would say, that being an indian, I'm ashamed to admit that it's usually the indians who
produce the most obnoxious and degrading responses.

I suspect the burden of ZERO (or marginal) visa bulletin movements is indeed weighing down very heavy on some of us and the line between civility and downright nasty is becoming blurred with each passing day.

I have been waiting for over six years for this god-forsaken GC, yet I see no need to turn vicious or take out my anger at another...though the temptation certainly offers itself to me.
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GC_TRAP said:
Once again, we see a barrage of rhetoric and criticism and judgement calls against those who have lived their lives differently, or not shared our "values" and "ideologies".

Are we ever going to grow out of it? I think not and have come to accept that fact. But when necessary, I will dare to point it out, albeit at the risk of becoming the target of their angst and tirades.

Just becuase gochina chose to (or was compelled to) not see his parents for 12 years, makes him "desperate" and not brave, and everything else in between?

It's easy to sit back, be an arm-chair critic and judge the world based on our narrow, tunnel-vision ideology (if I like apples, and you don't, may the scourge be upon you, mentality).

I have stated again and again that "in theory" we have one of the best educated foreigners on this forum, representing a wide section of professionals from various fields, yet pervasively, I see this slam-fest at the slightest deviation (from our holier-than-thou values).

If it was an exception I'd let it pass, but no sooner somebody posts opinion that's "alien" to us, out come the daggers and vile tongues. Here I would say, that being an indian, I'm ashamed to admit that it's usually the indians who
produce the most obnoxious and degrading responses.

I suspect the burden of ZERO (or marginal) visa bulletin movements is indeed weighing down very heavy on some of us and the line between civility and downright nasty is becoming blurred with each passing day.

I have been waiting for over six years for this god-forsaken GC, yet I see no need to turn vicious or take out my anger at another...though the temptation certainly offers itself to me.
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Thank you for your voice of reason :) I haven't been to my home country in 19 years, does that mean I am desperate? No, I am an adult who made a decision to lead my live the way I see it appropriate and I am quite sure my loved ones understand :rolleyes:
 
Hello everyone, please don't criticize those who criticize me for not seeing my mother for 12 year. I highly respect Indian values and idoelogies. I blame myself too for not trying to go back earlier.

Also, I highly respect your effort to try to lobby US congress to solve the retrogression problem. Indians are very united and active, even though I don't think lobbying is helpful.

GreenCard soon! US won't continue to discourage highly-educated professionals from staying here any longer!!
 
My Dear GC_TRAP,

We were not criticizing GCCHINA..Looks like you just spilled out some of your frustration..

By the way, this was a brave step from GCCHINA who came in front and confess about not tried to go back to his country!!

gcchina said:
Hello everyone, please don't criticize those who criticize me for not seeing my mother for 12 year. I highly respect Indian values and idoelogies. I blame myself too for not trying to go back earlier.

Also, I highly respect your effort to try to lobby US congress to solve the retrogression problem. Indians are very united and active, even though I don't think lobbying is helpful.

GreenCard soon! US won't continue to discourage highly-educated professionals from staying here any longer!!
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I think we all have different yardstick to measure life,

myself I measure with freedom that I had back in India and here and ofcourse it sucks here without greencard

but also there are many things which are good here and indeed life is treating me better, but thatz not enough I deserve truly what I traded for when I left my home country and I paid dues

so I expect my greencard now, and ofcouse I do crib, cuz itz easy ;)

dude if you are in H1 why don't you take a trip to home country and visit your mother
 
let me summarize:

* we cannot visit our parents just because we are scared of losing this life in usa
* we toil 60hrs/wk at work....because we are scared of losing the job
* we pay 70% of our income for the mortgage (and think that its allright)


let me summarize the meaning of the above three points......which leads to meaning of this life trying to settle down in usa:

so lets say we continue to work for 20 years like this, till the age of 45-50............can some one explain what did we gain in this life..........where is the happiness.............all we earned has gone for bills..........all our time spent earning so that we can pay our bills........ and we dont even spend time with our family..........i will be surprised if that does not lead to a heart disease....


I got angry at gcChina.....because he is trying to spread optimism.....when we are all at the point where we know that the door is almost closed for most.....

i feel that something is wrong with this way of life .......and if i dont feel disgusted i am also to blame for it.........because a change will never come.........if we all accept it and just go on living like a slave of this economy......
 
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GC_TRAP -U can be as much philosophical as you want,but the fact of the matter is "A mere GC or fear of visa denial(if that is the case) should not stop one from visiting his parents,especially his Mom.

If there is a situation,where I could not see my parents that long,then I would have said "Screw It!!" because it is simply not worth it. To me visiting my parents is paramount in life than a mere GC or a life here in the US......
 
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