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Do I have to show my employer GC?
- Thread starter jb90304
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YES.
Your EAD had an expiration date and you would have to reverify anyway.
That EAD was canceled when you were approved for the LPR status.
IF this card is a 2 yr conditional card, you will have to reverify again later.
IF this card is a 10 year card, you are done with the I-9 process with this emplyer.
Your EAD had an expiration date and you would have to reverify anyway.
That EAD was canceled when you were approved for the LPR status.
IF this card is a 2 yr conditional card, you will have to reverify again later.
IF this card is a 10 year card, you are done with the I-9 process with this emplyer.
ok so my GC says 'resident since 05/10/11' but i actually received this card like july because of some problem i have had with uscis.
and even given the fact that i received it like 2 months later, i guess i still failed to present this card to my employer for about 2 months (because i didn't know until now). will this be an issue? i plan to show them when i go to work tomorrow now that i know.
also, what do i tell my employer when i give it to them? chances are they don't know what to do with them neither... (because my managers don't know much of anything)
and even given the fact that i received it like 2 months later, i guess i still failed to present this card to my employer for about 2 months (because i didn't know until now). will this be an issue? i plan to show them when i go to work tomorrow now that i know.
also, what do i tell my employer when i give it to them? chances are they don't know what to do with them neither... (because my managers don't know much of anything)
Jackolantern
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You don't have to show the GC. Now that you have a GC, you can get an unrestricted Social Security card, and show the SS card + your driver's license instead of the GC. If you have a 2-year GC, showing the SS + ID/DL prevents the problem of the employer wanting to see a GC when the 2-year one expires.
But strictly speaking, you don't need to show the employer your new GC, EAD, SS etc. before the expiration date of what you already showed them. You were work-authorized when you previously filled out the I-9, you continue to be work-authorized for the job (although the basis of the authorization has changed from EAD to GC), and you haven't changed jobs, so neither you nor the employer are obligated to fill out a new I-9 before the expiration of the current one.
But strictly speaking, you don't need to show the employer your new GC, EAD, SS etc. before the expiration date of what you already showed them. You were work-authorized when you previously filled out the I-9, you continue to be work-authorized for the job (although the basis of the authorization has changed from EAD to GC), and you haven't changed jobs, so neither you nor the employer are obligated to fill out a new I-9 before the expiration of the current one.
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You don't have to show the GC. Now that you have a GC, you can get an unrestricted Social Security card, and show the SS card + your driver's license instead of the GC
Still there is an A# item on I-9 form. I am not sure if it is a requirment to put down your A# number there
if you show SSN+DL wuthout GC.
You fill out the I-9 form based on what status you have in the USA. If you are a LPR, then you must indicate A# regardless of whether you show an actual Green Card or not - there is just no other way around it.Still there is an A# item on I-9 form. I am not sure if it is a requirment to put down your A# number there
if you show SSN+DL wuthout GC.
You fill out the I-9 form based on what status you have in the USA. If you are a LPR, then you must indicate A# regardless of whether you show an actual Green Card or not - there is just no other way around it.
Actually looking back, I am very confused about this alien number. Maybe I remember it wrong but
I somewhat remember this number was given when I appied for I485 rather than when I485 was
approved. In other words, the A# was there when the lawyer hand me I485 for my signature.
I even rememeber asking the lawyer where this A# came from and lawyer just gave me a "this is not yoru business" attitude so I di dnot bother to ask again"
Jackolantern
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Yes, the A-number is normally assigned when you apply for the I-485. For some people it is assigned at the I-140 stage.
Even if you show SS card + DL and don't show the GC, if you're an LPR you still have to write down the A# when filling out the I-9. If the employer uses eVerify they can check the A# in the system.
Even if you show SS card + DL and don't show the GC, if you're an LPR you still have to write down the A# when filling out the I-9. If the employer uses eVerify they can check the A# in the system.
when i was hired, i showed them my SS card w/ restriction + EAD.
now i have SS card w/o restriction and GC.
so.. what you're saying is that i don't need to show anything new until the expiration date, but i'm confused as to which expiration date i should be going with.
i'm not even sure what i should be presenting if any and what to say when i do present it. i'm almost 100% sure my employer won't know what to do with it so i will have to be knowledgeable before i talk to them.
now i have SS card w/o restriction and GC.
so.. what you're saying is that i don't need to show anything new until the expiration date, but i'm confused as to which expiration date i should be going with.
i'm not even sure what i should be presenting if any and what to say when i do present it. i'm almost 100% sure my employer won't know what to do with it so i will have to be knowledgeable before i talk to them.
what you're saying is that i don't need to show anything new until the expiration date, but i'm confused as to which expiration date i should be going with.
Basically as long as you are legal to work, which you are, you do not have to worry about this
any more. You can just wait and let yo HR come to yoru first when they see your old documnetation expire.
But if you care, you can just go to your HR and update it once and for all.
sanjoseaug20
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But if you care, you can just go to your HR and update it once and for all.
I agree. There are no issues with reporting this information late ... as others have clarified that it is not late. Take care of it at your convenience and since you have the documents, take care of it now.
thanks for all the replies.
what does HR stand for?
also, when i do go in to show these doc to my employer, what should i say and request with them?
HR=Human Resources Department. If your employer is a small company or a single person, HR may not exist. Just go to any person who does your I-9 verification and update yoru record
Let's put it this way - you do not do anything until your current or future employer asks you to fill out a new I-9 form. Then, you will put the most recent information on it. You are authorised to work in the USA, and that is all you need to be concerned with. It is the employer's responsibility to know when to file I-9.also, when i do go in to show these doc to my employer, what should i say and request with them?
Jackolantern
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when i was hired, i showed them my SS card w/ restriction + EAD.
now i have SS card w/o restriction and GC.
so.. what you're saying is that i don't need to show anything new until the expiration date, but i'm confused as to which expiration date i should be going with.
It's the expiration date you wrote on your latest I-9, which would be the EAD expiration date since that's what you showed for the I-9.
Next time you fill out the I-9, you have the choice of the GC alone, or unrestricted SS card + state ID/drivers license.
It's the expiration date you wrote on your latest I-9, which would be the EAD expiration date since that's what you showed for the I-9.
Next time you fill out the I-9, you have the choice of the GC alone, or unrestricted SS card + state ID/drivers license.
There is an issue with waiting until expiration date is: USCIS may do an audit by randommly choosing
some employers. If the person' employer is auditted before the expiration date, USCIS may find current document is already invalid
Jackolantern
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There is an issue with waiting until expiration date is: USCIS may do an audit by randommly choosing
some employers. If the person' employer is auditted before the expiration date, USCIS may find current document is already invalid
That will be of no consequence, because if USCIS/ICE know that the unexpired document shown for the I-9 is invalid due to GC approval, they'll also know that the OP continued to be work-authorized with the GC. The employer won't be in trouble for the employee's documents becoming invalid after the I-9 filing and before the expiration date*, and the employee won't be in trouble as long as work authorization is continuously maintained.
*unless they knew that the employee lost work authorization before the expiration date
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That will be of no consequence, because if USCIS/ICE know that the unexpired document shown for the I-9 is invalid due to GC approval, they'll also know that the OP continued to be work-authorized with the GC. The employer won't be in trouble for the employee's documents becoming invalid after the I-9 filing and before the expiration date*, and the employee won't be in trouble as long as work authorization is continuously maintained.
*unless they knew that the employee lost work authorization before the expiration date
The key is that we should find original statutes regardding this I-9. Without looking at th elaw, we are not even sure whether an emplyee is legally required to report change of status even status is upgraded rather than downgraded.
Remmeber, 10 years ago no one was even unaaware of this AR-11 requirement. In this forum, you
could be laughed at if you suggest others to report address of change to USCIS. The same thing for carryiong physical card
looklook199
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from my lawyer: YES, you have to!
but may i ask why you do not want to show it to your employer?
but may i ask why you do not want to show it to your employer?
CalGreenCard
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I got this job when I had my EAD but now I've had GC for couple months now... Do I have to show my employer my GC?
I would agree with those who say that you do not need to show them. The I-9 is an EMPLOYER's obligation, not an employee's obligation--and I think reading the actual law makes this clear. The employee's obligation is simply to remain authorized to work and to show I-9 documents when appropriately asked by the employer. But it's the employer who is supposed to initiate I-9 stuff--either at initial hiring or when the originally provided documents expire.
If there were a change in the nature of the work you are permitted to undertake, then you'd IMHO be required to show the new status. For example, if someone is on H-1B and gets an EAD or GC and wants to perform work for the employer that goes beyond the scope of the H-1B petition--then I think it would be required to update the I-9 even if the original expiration date on the H-1B hasn't expired. But if the nature of the job remains consistent with both the original work authorization and the current work authorization--I see no legal obligation to inform the employer of the change.
In terms of what I'd recommend, if you know for sure that you're going to be leaving the employer before the original EAD expires, I wouldn't recommend telling them. Just an unnecessary complication IMHO. But if you plan or hope to stay beyond the original EAD expiration date, why not let them know NOW? Eventually you'll have to make the update and why not reduce their stress level about your status by reassuring them of your new, more secure, US status? You aren't REQUIRED IMHO to update them sooner than necessary but nothing prevents you from doing so--and I think it's just good for your relationship with your employer to do so.
Finally, if your job requires you to travel internationally on business, it may be necessary or desirable to inform your travel department of the new status, esp if they need to arrange visas in third countries on your behalf. If the travel department communicates with the HR department--or if the travel dept and the HR dept are one and the same person in a small company--this may also trigger a need to update your I-9.
In summary--I don't think it's strictly necessary legally until the original I-9 date expires but it just seems wise unless you're leaving the company soon.
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