Deportation to El Salvador

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Hello everyone... I have a quick question. My fiancee (not married).... got picked up 7 weeks ago and taken it, he has a "Final Deportation Order". He entered in 2005 and overstayed a 90 day visa. They are not pressing charges or anything but they are deporting him. I am moving to his country, we are at peace with this. However, we are not sure how long this may be. His brother from ES also got deported, and it took 6 weeks and 4 days.

My fiancee has been in for 7 weeks now, currently in Pennsylvania at York County. We were both told several weeks ago it would be soon, last week I called and was told a week, then I called friday and was told they are still waiting on travel documents and then he'd be on a flight. And that's all he is waiting for.

Does anybody have any experience with a time-frame for El Salvador, could it be this week or next? This is really making life hard, our family is just torn apart. We were expecting him to be fast like his brother and we just don't see why not, I don't get why they are still waiting on travel documents. He has no problems in his country, etc. I don't have his docs to supply them or anything so obviously we'd have to wait, but any idea on a time-frame?

Thanks
 
I do believe there are only two non-criminal JPATS (charters) flights a month to El Salvador. One leaves out of Oakdale, LA and the other out of El Paso, Texas. Providing a valid passport would have spend things up. Otherwise you have to wait for the El Salvadoran government to issue a travel document. Once ICE receives that they will send him home.

Now, if he is a criminal, the El Salvadoran goverment demands that the person be interviewed in the United States, so they can get his fingerprints and other information before allowing him back into El Salvador. He will also need T/B clearance to get on the plane, sometimes it take a jail a long time to get the results back to ICE. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't gone by next week. There are only so many flight taking people back, it could be that they have arrested more than they can get rid of quickly.

I've deported hundreds of El Salvadorans :) I know one thing, he will be gone before he hits the 90-days in custody mark.
 
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Thanks for the info! I understand your an Ex Immigration Officer. That sounds promising. Finally some info that's realiable.

Since the first day they had him 2 months ago when i called they told me he had a "Final Deportation Order" and he would be deported soon. They also said there were no charges or anything and he was just being deported and that was that.

They didn't request his travel documents until June 4, 2009. So from which of those two does the 90 days start? I know it starts in either of those, but he's had a deport order since day 1. They also asked him to sign some type of paper around June 10, which he signed because he was told it would help make stuff faster (No idea what it was since I thought you didn't have to in Forced Order Cases/Final Deports).

Anyway we know he did something wrong in terms of immigration and just want him to go home now, so we can all move on from this. It's been hard. And since day one everyone has said ... "It'll be a few days". Which never helped, it was a lie and made crap worse. If someone would of just told me the truth it'd of been easier to accept. Two-months later, I see the truth that it takes some time!

Anyway like I said, he is just waiting on travel documents they say.

What is an average time frame you've seen for deportation on individuals awaiting travel documents from ES (they were requested June 4). Could it be anyday or are we looking at a bigger quantity of time?

Thanks so much for the help... I appreciate it.

Sure hope they send him next week.
 
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Since he was a final order, his 90-days would have started once he was taken into custody.
Sometimes it isn't ICE that is delaying things, sometimes it is the El Salvadoran government. Sometimes they insist on taking to a person in person, and they don't feel like paying a visit to just one person. I'm assuming the document he signed on the 10th. was a travel document request, it would have been in Spanish not English. If he signed on the 10th., they should have had the TD back by the 20th. The file would be over to the JPATS officer that same week, he would have put into the system after that. I think it will be less than 10 days, I'm guessing he will fly out on the 13/14th.
 
Wow, thank you so much for your reply.

It means alot just to know something, and thank you for not just telling me oh anyday or tomorrow, I appreciate something close to a truth.

Thank you very much.

By the way all the told me was "They requested his documents June 4th", but he didn't sign anything until the 10th, which was in spanish so I assume that's what your talking about. When I called them 3 days ago they told me "It's still pending in the system and says he is waiting on travel documents".

So maybe they have them back and maybe he will be out on the 13th/14th. I really appreciate the reply. Are they just not going to tell me they have his documents or do they maybe really not yet, it's def. been 10 days...

When they do send him, the 13th or 14th (hopefully! man i sure hope so!).... how long before will they move him to texas or will they not do it until the day his flight is, or do you have any idea?
 
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You have to rememember that the government is not a airline. Lets assume that he will leave on a flight out of Texas. That means they need to get him to Texas. If they fly him down on Wednesday for a Friday flight then everything goes quickly, but if that El Salvador flight leaves on Wednesday then he has to wait till the next week. They don't fly into a terminal where they just walk to another gate. He is costing the government $80-100 a day, they want him gone as soon as possible.


luis84 said:
Wow, thank you so much for your reply.

It means alot just to know something, and thank you for not just telling me oh anyday or tomorrow, I appreciate something close to a truth.

Thank you very much.

By the way all the told me was "They requested his documents June 4th", but he didn't sign anything until the 10th, which was in spanish so I assume that's what your talking about. When I called them 3 days ago they told me "It's still pending in the system and says he is waiting on travel documents".

So maybe they have them back and maybe he will be out on the 13th/14th. I really appreciate the reply. Are they just not going to tell me they have his documents or do they maybe really not yet, it's def. been 10 days...

When they do send him, the 13th or 14th (hopefully! man i sure hope so!).... how long before will they move him to texas or will they not do it until the day his flight is, or do you have any idea?
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Well, today was eventful.

My fiancee... he called me at 4 to tell me they examined him medically which was strange, since they havent been doing that.

So then at ... 9 he calls me to tell me they took him and 5 other people into a room as explained to them "They MIGHT be getting moved in the NEXT 3 days". he said thats all they said and then they put a wristband thing on them. It was 6 of them he says they told this to.

Does this mean he is going for sure or no? He says he was thrown off by the maybe, any idea what this means though?
 
It sounds like someone forgot to get him TB tested, so he can get on a flight with other people. A TB test takes 3 days to read, if he has a positive test, they will need to do a chest xray. Lots of hispanics have "false-positive" reactions to the skin test.


luis84 said:
Well, today was eventful.

My fiancee... he called me at 4 to tell me they examined him medically which was strange, since they havent been doing that.

So then at ... 9 he calls me to tell me they took him and 5 other people into a room as explained to them "They MIGHT be getting moved in the NEXT 3 days". he said thats all they said and then they put a wristband thing on them. It was 6 of them he says they told this to.

Does this mean he is going for sure or no? He says he was thrown off by the maybe, any idea what this means though?
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Alright, he didn't call me all day today, until 10:45. At this time he called me but i was unable to accept however I did hear from the prompt that he is at an ice facility in "Elizebeth" which i assume is elizebeth, NJ.

Is this a good sign or a bad sign, he was in York, PA for a month, many people there were spending months waiting on cases. So is it a good sign he got moved and isn't there or is this a bad sign? Is the a stop on the way to his flight?

I'd appreciate any information...
 
It is hard to say if that is a good sign or not, if ICE moved him, they might be staging him for a flight.
 
Again, thanks for the reply. Your pretty much the only one keeping me sane.

He called me finally, he says the new place is better food wise and treatment wise. He says they didn't tell him anything but they moved 4 other people from ES aswell, he said... the people there say that people go fast (usually). Also he says they have been saying something about flights directly to ES from there. I am not sure if that's true, but the detention center is 5 miles from Newark INT'L Airport. So it seems like maybe there is plane access closer.

What in your honest opinion is happening? Is it likely he'll still be deported in that 10 day time-frame you said (IE By next week around the 13th or 14th)? Or does the fact that he got moved change everything?

The new facility he is in is only 3 hours from where he was, it's closer to an airport (very close) and they still had bed space at york, pa (where he was for a month). So it seems like if they moved him, they have something planned, if they didn't why not just leave him at york? Just what I was thinking. Maybe I am off here.

Anyway, whats your opinion of this? You still think he's going soon?
 
I too drew that conclusion based on the events that have taken place. It seems most logical that moving him was in order for removal and as such he is being staged for removal.

However, I have no idea how that process goes. So does it mean he can go any day now? I'm still hoping for the 14th?

My question is: When someone is being staged for removal is there any particular time-frame IE a week, two weeks or could it simply be any time?

Also: I'll keep it posted if I find out anything else. Thanks so much for your time.
 
At this point, I would suggest that you call the El Salvadoran Consuls office on behalf of your boyfriend, and demand that they contact ICE, and have them demand that ICE provide their office with a departure date.

Any chance you have some Attorney trying to re-open the case, so he could make a few more hundred dollars? Or he did appealed his deportation order, forcing ICE has to wait for 30-days to pass before they move him?
 
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No, no attorney. I am sure, I've only ever used one and he's actually a really good friend so he didn't charge me to start with. But it wasn't necessary since my boyfriend had a Forced Deportation Order/Final Order. There was no point in trying. So no Attorney involved.

When I last talked to ICE they did not mention anything about an attorney either. As formentioned, he is since in New Jersey at Elizabeth Detention Center. He said when he talked to the ICE person on site there yesterday all they said is that they are still waiting on his travel documents. I find this very hard to believe since it's been OVER a month since they requested them and there is no reason ES would not hand over his documents, he is a citizen in good standing in El Salvador.

My boyfriend said they also told him apparantly that the El Salvador counsulate would probably be at the ICE Facility next week or the week after and he could talk to him.

Is there anything I can do to speed up this process? If I call the El Salvador embassay will they even be willing to call ICE and help? I mean... or do I just have to wait for them to "Recieve his travel documents".

It's been 2 months and a week, his 90 day mark will be on August 10th. Is he going to still be here past then? This is so ridiculous, honestly.

I will appreciate your help so far, please get back to me in reply to this topic, this situation is becoming so long and drawn out and all ICE says is they are waiting on travel documents... SINCE JUNE 4th?
 
Ok I sent a fax to the consulate.

He called me immediatly the next morning, took down some info and said he'd be in touch and see what he can do. He said it sucks I didnt call him sooner because we could of avoided this much time but he said now he will see what he can do and be in touch.

That was friday at 2PM, havent heard anything back yet.

Now I guess, just wait...
 
Well.

This is over. Finally. Thank you, your advice helped more than you know.

Consulate called my fiancee yesterday, said that I called him about his case, etc and anyway... I called thanks to your advice and your advice helped.

Fiancee's going home The 27th, he'll be home by 3PM. He's going on a regular commerical flight leaving directly from Newark.

Thank you so much.

Deport to El Salvador (Start to Finish): 2 Months, 3 weeks. No passport supplied, no criminal charges, forced removal order, signed all papers voulentarily.
 
luis84 said:
Well.

This is over. Finally. Thank you, your advice helped more than you know.

Consulate called my fiancee yesterday, said that I called him about his case, etc and anyway... I called thanks to your advice and your advice helped.

Fiancee's going home The 27th, he'll be home by 3PM. He's going on a regular commerical flight leaving directly from Newark.

Thank you so much.

Deport to El Salvador (Start to Finish): 2 Months, 3 weeks. No passport supplied, no criminal charges, forced removal order, signed all papers voulentarily.
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good to hear that your problem is over. hope ICE act on this cases as fast as possible.
 
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