Dental License needs SSN - SSN needs H1 - H1 needs license

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cherry_dds

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Hello,

I am doing my DDS and will graduate this May.
I passed the NERB. I am on H4, and did not convert to F1 (had to travel out of country)

Now I need a H1 to work. I have some questions ...

1) Do I need a dental license to apply for H1 ?
Almost all states require a SSN to issue a dental license. Since I am on H4, I dont have a SSN. Problem: License needs SSN - SSN needs H1 - H1 needs license- basically a "Catch 22" position here :mad:

2) I did some googling and found that UCSIS issues H1 for 1 year for nurses who do not have license(because of no SSN). Would this apply to dentists as well ??
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3) Can I get a H1 for "Teachers—Postsecondary" position based on my DDS ?

Please help !

Thanks !!
 
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cherry_dds said:
Hello,

I am doing my DDS and will graduate this May.
I passed the NERB. I am on H4, and did not convert to F1 (had to travel out of country)

Now I need a H1 to work. I have some questions ...

1) Do I need a dental license to apply for H1 ?
Almost all states require a SSN to issue a dental license. Since I am on H4, I dont have a SSN. Problem: License needs SSN - SSN needs H1 - H1 needs license- basically a "Catch 22" position here :mad: Who is mad????
To practice dentistry in US, you must have your unconditional dental license for the particular state. (Minimum requirements for getting North Eastern Board license you know).
Unless you qualify for practising your dentistry, you are not eligible for an H1. If you would have been changed your status from H4 to F1, you should have got your OPT work authorization now and eligible for SSN, also you can work for anybody for 14 months, before you decide your employer for H1. Who misguided you?

2) I did some googling and found that UCSIS issues H1 for 1 year for nurses who do not have license(because of no SSN). Would this apply to dentists as well ?? USCIS doen not need any SSN to issue H1, USCIS need only unconditional license to practise before issuing H1
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3) Can I get a H1 for "Teachers—Postsecondary" position based on my DDS ? YES as a teaching staff, if school is willing to sponser.

Please help !

Thanks !!
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Thanks Great Guru for your reply.

I know that converting to F1 would have solved all issues - but I had to travel out of country for family reasons, and didnt want to risk the interview at consulate for F1 with a high tuition I-20.

>>Unless you qualify for practising your dentistry, you are not eligible for an H1.
>>USCIS need only unconditional license to practise before issuing H1
So, Do I need the actual dentistry license.Or Is it ok if I 'qualify' for a license (i.e, meet all requirements for license except the SSN). There is difference here because actual dentistry License application needs SSN and I cant get a SSN unless I get a H1.

USCIS does not need SSN, but dental license does need SSN. USCIS provides a way out for the nurses with NO license by giving a 1 year H1 visa - I didnt see any such allowance for dentists.

So is there is no way a H4 can convert to H1 for Dentist ?

>>YES as a teaching staff, if school is willing to sponser.
Can a consultancy sponsor a H1 for such "Teachers—Postsecondary" positions ? Or does it have to be school/university ?

Appreciate your patience !
 
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cherry_dds said:
Thanks Great Guru for your reply.

I know that converting to F1 would have solved all issues - but I had to travel out of country for family reasons, and didnt want to risk the interview at consulate for F1 with a high tuition I-20.

I know many guys got thier F1 stamped at Tijuana without any problem.

>>Unless you qualify for practising your dentistry, you are not eligible for an H1.
>>USCIS need only unconditional license to practise before issuing H1
So, Do I need the actual dentistry license.Or Is it ok if I 'qualify' for a license (i.e, meet all requirements for license except the SSN). There is difference here because actual dentistry License application needs SSN and I cant get a SSN unless I get a H1.
You need unconditional license in papers from the state where you are going to practise

USCIS does not need SSN, but dental license does need SSN. USCIS provides a way out for the nurses with NO license by giving a 1 year H1 visa - I didnt see any such allowance for dentists.
Which state are you trying to get the license?
So is there is no way a H4 can convert to H1 for Dentist ? Yes , if you have license in hand.
>>YES as a teaching staff, if school is willing to sponser.
Can a consultancy sponsor a H1 for such "Teachers—Postsecondary" positions ? Or does it have to be school/university ?

Teaching position for DDS must come through school not through body shoppers

Othe altenate is go for speciality or AEGD/GPR plenty of hospital in NY willing to sponser you under F1 or H1 (Different H1 from hospital to practise only in thier hospital under supervision) after that you can get your SSN.

Appreciate your patience !
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>> Which state are you trying to get the license?
I am trying for NJ or CA. Unfortunately, both states need SSN for license, so I cant get licensed.

I will start looking for the AEGD/GPR programs. Please let me know if you happen to know any openings in NJ/CA.

Thanks Again !!
 
this might work

Hi,
go to dean's office , ask them to provide letter about ssn reqd for dental license.
then go to international office with all ur visa papers and dean letter. give them both ask them to write a letter to social security office to issue you a ssn - not valid for work. explain why you need it.

go to ssn office try ur luck.... once u get ur ssn apply for license.

then after u get ur H-1 - go back to ssn with all h1 approval papers and ask SSA to change card from not valid for work to work with uscis authorisation.
it may take some time and some running around,,, but i think this will work
welcome new doc.
 
Social Security Administration is only looking for I 94 with caveat H1 or work authorization. No other papers satisfy them due to misuse of SSN.

Untill 1999, SSA used to give SSN - not valid for work for driving licenses but not now.



dent_75 said:
Hi,
go to dean's office , ask them to provide letter about ssn reqd for dental license.
then go to international office with all ur visa papers and dean letter. give them both ask them to write a letter to social security office to issue you a ssn - not valid for work. explain why you need it.

go to ssn office try ur luck.... once u get ur ssn apply for license.

then after u get ur H-1 - go back to ssn with all h1 approval papers and ask SSA to change card from not valid for work to work with uscis authorisation.
it may take some time and some running around,,, but i think this will work
welcome new doc.
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You must apply through matching center in Canada for all the dental schools programs in US.


cherry_dds said:
>> Which state are you trying to get the license?
I am trying for NJ or CA. Unfortunately, both states need SSN for license, so I cant get licensed.

I will start looking for the AEGD/GPR programs. Please let me know if you happen to know any openings in NJ/CA.

Thanks Again !!
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