Concurrent filers: Is this your fate?

I think they meant catching up with I-485s not I-140.

There must be very few (if any) I-140s pending before sept 15, 03. When FO memo came out on Mar 31, 04, current NSC processing date was Sept 03, so can't have been many I-140s pending before that. since then dates have not moved at all, so NSC
must be clearing 485 backlog upto sept 03...

of course, I have no idea how to explain the handful of concurrent approvals of feb 04 filers! maybe they have a couple officers working the concurrent line?
 
Don't excuse your language - we are all in the same situation, it hurts to wait and not to read your saying I am dreaming (who cares).
As for current I-140s - I meant stand alone current I-140s, and the current date is September 15th 2004.
Truly concurrent approvals (of both I 140 and I 485 filed and approved at the same time) relate to what is said in Rajiv Khanas newsletter on NSC, that is , they relate to those concurrently-filed I-140s that had not been sent for adjudication at the point that the Fujie Ohata’s memo dated March 31, 2004 went into effect
It follows that the fast (after a month or so) approvals of I-140s, that are otherwise part of the concurrent I-140/I-485 application, were sent for adjudication before March 31st, at least at NSC, and that the whole concurrent package was processed in the "old" way - first I-140 approval , them look into AOS.
What I have seen in our NSC RD 2004 tracker here, only non-concurrent filers have their I-140 approved.
I don't know about other service centers.
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inkink said:
Excuse my language but Stonewall you gotta be draming if you believe they are "processing stand-alone I-140s on or before September 15 2003". Stand-alone cases get done in about a month these days. Haven't you read about it? If you believe the paragraph you quoted, then maybe you can explain to me what does "It will start processing concurrent applications I- 140s TOGETHER with I-485, once the concurrent RD start aligning with current I-140s" mean. What is "current I-140"? When stand-alone cases from last month are getting approved, what on earth does that friggin' September 15 2003 date mean?

I know most of you guys here have at least a MS degree, or at least a BS in a technical ground. So maybe you could explain to me how you interpret the friggin' statements in a logical way.
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Bharad,
There are plentyof people I know who are waiting for approval of I-140 before the ohata memo. What that memo has done is to just create a backlog somewhere else in system. Remember that only people who have had their I140 approved had RFE . Ohata Memo was for Pilot program for cases filed after April 04.
If you think that they are approving the 485s ,take a look at forum adn you would find that rate is not great and people from 01 are still waiting.
Only reasoning is that whatever they do is random and chaotic and no other rational reasoning can apply.
 
bharad1 said:
I think they meant catching up with I-485s not I-140.

There must be very few (if any) I-140s pending before sept 15, 03. When FO memo came out on Mar 31, 04, current NSC processing date was Sept 03, so can't have been many I-140s pending before that. since then dates have not moved at all, so NSC
must be clearing 485 backlog upto sept 03...

of course, I have no idea how to explain the handful of concurrent approvals of feb 04 filers! maybe they have a couple officers working the concurrent line?
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Do not forget that they will now wait for our I-485 to be ready (see R. Khana's newsletter in my message below) and that is the waiting time that will be different for every person (FP district center availability, namecheck spoeed etc.) before we get BOTH approvals.
That is - even if I-140 is ready they will not gib=ve it tgo you before I-485 is ready. They should have explained it in a very detailed manner in order to avoid AC21 chaos now. Whovere had a plan to change the job should have gone for I-140 first, and then for AOS.
But, what is clear from NSC news at R. Khana, is that I-485/I-140 concurrent applications do not follow the processing date of stand alone I-485 applications and that could be the good news.
 
astreix said:
Bharad,
There are plentyof people I know who are waiting for approval of I-140 before the ohata memo. What that memo has done is to just create a backlog somewhere else in system. Remember that only people who have had their I140 approved had RFE . Ohata Memo was for Pilot program for cases filed after April 04.
If you think that they are approving the 485s ,take a look at forum adn you would find that rate is not great and people from 01 are still waiting.
Only reasoning is that whatever they do is random and chaotic and no other rational reasoning can apply.
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Ohata Memo was (still is) for all, Pilot program was for EB2 at California service center only.
 
Theory of Chaos

I think unless we see the directives (internal) provided to the officers aka (the operating bible) anything they release to outside world is PR and nothing else. So anything based on that is mere speculation.
 
How the H%!@ can NSC keep coming out with processing times reports for months where neither 140 or the 485 times move at all? I can understand 140 time not moving if the 485 time was moving forward like crazy...but this is total BS...

This is really depressing, so going to not even look at this anymore until Monday.. :mad:
 
astreix said:
I think unless we see the directives (internal) provided to the officers aka (the operating bible) anything they release to outside world is PR and nothing else. So anything based on that is mere speculation.
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It is a black box for us outsiders. It could be more than a speculation if we had all data - how many applicatons in (there are data on this at USCIS), how many out (there are data on this too but it is unclear from what RD years these approvals come from), how many IOs are working in each center (10, 100, 1000???, how many hours, days, weeks, months one application takes to be processed (we get 330-999 days), if there are RFEs, or no RFEs - Here in this forum, rupnet etc, we deal only with a fraction of the total number of filers, a very random sample + lots of missing links about the procedure.
So I shamelessly speculate that we all will be approved sooner than we think (and we are realistic most of the times - probably 2-3 years).
 
I bet concurrent filer will not take as long as I485 but it will take longer than I140 stand alone. I have been waiting almost 6 months and have not heard anything (no fp, nothing). It took 8 months (longest in our company history) for our cases to approve in the past (my company attorney told me). Can people talk to USCIS, they really have to look into this problem. Many people are waiting for the I140 to use AC21. It is a very serious issue. USCIS should just approve I140 first and work on I485 later even we filed concurrently so we can use AC21 or change AC21 asap (Use AC21 without i140 after 6 months)
 
ouch..

EB2 is not moving at all!!!

:(

What ever theories are.. what ever the guess works are.. what ever the rules are..

How much time you spend to create a plan to reduce backlog?

lol... and how much time you try to implement it? probably never..
 
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timeline for concurrent filers

another "clarification(?) directly from CIS":

"Unfortunately, we don't have a specific timeline as to when concurrently
filed applications will be adjudicated. Currently, we are working on
the existing I-140 petition backlog (that were individually filed - without
an I-485) as they have been pending significantly longer than concurrently filed cases. Once the processing times become current for both types of filings, we will begin to adjudicate the pending concurrently filed cases."
 
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