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pectoralis

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Hi,

question for people here.. I have been charged with solicitation of prostitution.. .. this is a misdemeanor, total possible sentence is 9 months.. am waiting to see how much actually is.

I wanted to get input from unfortunate people who may have had this happen to them in the past, what do u think as far as inadmissibility, GC, citizenship is consirned? any one had any personal experiences?

Help! :(
 
It's bad enough people get on here admitting they have drinking problems. Now this.... not painting a good picture of people trying to immigrate here. :rolleyes:
 
puritans still rule here...silly drug laws also....9 month sentence?should be a slap on the wrist or fine at most...ridiculous...anyway they still hate hooker stuff here...
 
Dear average american,

The reason for my post was to get information and help. Pls donot thread crap if you have no useful input in the post. I am not trying to help your image but asking for your help in the post, if need be, start a new thread about how immigrant follies destroy your image.

On the other hand, jnj appreciate your input.. My personal experience after d/w immigration attorney.. anything under a year ( total and actual imprisonment) should come under the petty offence exception and technically should not affect admisibility. Also INS takes prostitution to be 'repititive behaviour' not a one time offence. However if that immigration officer on the airport refuses any one's admission to the country,no one will bring up the 'repititive behaviour' with him.

This matter is still pending and will try to post the final resolution... fingers crossed.
 
I have done my own bit of research on lot of other misdemeanor charges. And hence I would ask you if you had a chance to discuss with your immigration lawyer about what actually a sentence is and whether probation or other alternatives to actual sentence qualify as the sentence duration which immigration officers consider for a CIMT/Aggrevated felony. The thumb rule as suggested by most people is that if you don't fall in to either one of those you might probably be safe. But I do undertand that immigration laws are very stringent on prostitution to my knowledge.

I couldn't make out from your post if you were already convicted or the case is pending hearing. Could you find out about the maximum sentence for your probablistic charges to be issued in the future. My guess is that they take the maximum sentence for a crime and not the sentence such as probation in to consideration.

Would appreciate your feedback about the sentencing part from your immigration lawyer.
Also any feedback about criminal lawyers in Pennsylvania State or good immigration lawyers who have been dealing with misdemeanor charges (anywhere in US) is appreciated.

Good Luck ..
 
Hi portal 0103,
My case is still pending and not concluded yet. Here is the information that i have been able to gather from discussions with lawyers and my own research:

The actual and the theoretical 'jail time' matter. For example if the theoretical jail time is more than 12 months but the actual sentencing is 2 months.. this will still make the person 'inadmisible' to the US by the immigration laws ( the conditions for deportations are different i believe).

CIMT is a very broad category and a lot of offences are decided to constitute this by immigration courts all the time. If the crime is classified as being an aggravated felony, the immigrant immidiately becomes deportable and you might see ICE show up at the door. IF the crime is CIMT but a misdemeanor, rules are different, If the total possible jail time for the crime is less than 12 months then this is classified as 'petty offence exception' is which a person should not be deportable or inadmissible. Two CIMT misdemeanors will constitute an aggravated felony.

Unfortunately i have no information about criminal lawyers in pennsylvania, but undoubtedly go with the best one that money can get.. as the criminal courts decision is paramount.

Also, a diversion strategy such as 'pleading guity' can be constituted by the immigration court as admission of guilt.. so avoid this at all costs. There are some other pathways such as a 'delayed judment' .. dont know the technical term for this.. while the person stays on probabtion may work...

I have been unable to find a good immigration attorney with experience in these matters... Hope this info help... good luck!
 
What amuses me...

Heh. One thing that endlessly amuses me about prostitution, is that it is perfectly legal in, say, Vegas. Why the fuck it is considered CIMT, for fuck's sake? Anyone with a lawsuit?
 
Maybe it's because I'm a Border Patrol agent and look at things simply, but I'd like to say this- come here legally or don't come at all. If you're a drunken driver, or a prostitute, or a wifebeater, stop trying to tell me how your case was eventually dismissed or how you had your record expunged. The last thing this country needs is more criminals. There's enough drunken idiots running the roads at night killing and maiming our women and children, enough prostitutes walking our streets, and enough redneck trailer trash beating the snot out of their wives without you coming to our country to add your portion.

It seems like most everyone on this board has violated the laws of this country and you want help to further break the laws- you want to work without proper documentation, you want to come over with a tourist visa and live the rest of your lives here illegally, and demand citizenship at the same time while flaunting the very laws of the country you're trying to become part of.

I love my job. I love gathering up illegals, running their records and finding that one in seven of them have criminal records, often violent. I love capturing drug dealers, dope heads, wifebeaters, and shipping them back across the border. And to those of you who say, "Oh, I'm not a criminal- I'm just out of status", well, guess what- you are a criminal, too.
 
please don't consider everyone in this forum as criminals

Kilo72 said:
Maybe it's because I'm a Border Patrol agent and look at things simply, but I'd like to say this- come here legally or don't come at all. If you're a drunken driver, or a prostitute, or a wifebeater, stop trying to tell me how your case was eventually dismissed or how you had your record expunged. The last thing this country needs is more criminals. There's enough drunken idiots running the roads at night killing and maiming our women and children, enough prostitutes walking our streets, and enough redneck trailer trash beating the snot out of their wives without you coming to our country to add your portion.

It seems like most everyone on this board has violated the laws of this country and you want help to further break the laws- you want to work without proper documentation, you want to come over with a tourist visa and live the rest of your lives here illegally, and demand citizenship at the same time while flaunting the very laws of the country you're trying to become part of.

I love my job. I love gathering up illegals, running their records and finding that one in seven of them have criminal records, often violent. I love capturing drug dealers, dope heads, wifebeaters, and shipping them back across the border. And to those of you who say, "Oh, I'm not a criminal- I'm just out of status", well, guess what- you are a criminal, too.
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Many of the people in this forum are law abiding people who work hard and pay taxes etc..legally live for years. including me. We are stuck with immigration process no fault of ours... we work for the fortune 100 companies for years.. I agree with you there is no place for criminals in this coutry. and must be dealt with rule of the land at the same token Please don't put those who abide by law,work hard and bring our talent to this coutry and create new products in the software industry.. as criminals.


Thanks
 
What is the latest Pectoralis?

Hi Pectoralis,

What happened with you case since you posted here last time? Did you get convicted (Final terms, probabation)?

Hope you are doing well.

Does anyone else know what is the latest with Pectoralis?

Best wishes.
 
Kilo72 said:
Maybe it's because I'm a Border Patrol agent and look at things simply, but I'd like to say this- come here legally or don't come at all. If you're a drunken driver, or a prostitute, or a wifebeater, stop trying to tell me how your case was eventually dismissed or how you had your record expunged. The last thing this country needs is more criminals. There's enough drunken idiots running the roads at night killing and maiming our women and children, enough prostitutes walking our streets, and enough redneck trailer trash beating the snot out of their wives without you coming to our country to add your portion.

It seems like most everyone on this board has violated the laws of this country and you want help to further break the laws- you want to work without proper documentation, you want to come over with a tourist visa and live the rest of your lives here illegally, and demand citizenship at the same time while flaunting the very laws of the country you're trying to become part of.

I love my job. I love gathering up illegals, running their records and finding that one in seven of them have criminal records, often violent. I love capturing drug dealers, dope heads, wifebeaters, and shipping them back across the border. And to those of you who say, "Oh, I'm not a criminal- I'm just out of status", well, guess what- you are a criminal, too.
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Well said Kilo72! Kudos to you for your post. I came here legally, and intend to stay in status at all times. Obeying the law is such a no-brainer, yet it seems to be sooo difficult for so many people. Just more work for you I guess. Please know that I appreciate your work along with the rest of America. You make us all feel safer, rounding up illegals by the bunch & sending them back.
 
Hi Bhalo, hope all is well. Well i have some good news. I exited and reentered US with out a problem recently, my case is still unresolved as the criminal lawyer is working with the DA, will let you know what happens.. fingers crossed. Also, i completely support kilo72's cause but it just seems to me that if any place in the world was such a wholesome society, there wouldn't be any need for trial lawyers, now would there?
 
Kilo72 said:
Maybe it's because I'm a Border Patrol agent and look at things simply, but I'd like to say this- come here legally or don't come at all. If you're a drunken driver, or a prostitute, or a wifebeater, stop trying to tell me how your case was eventually dismissed or how you had your record expunged. The last thing this country needs is more criminals. There's enough drunken idiots running the roads at night killing and maiming our women and children, enough prostitutes walking our streets, and enough redneck trailer trash beating the snot out of their wives without you coming to our country to add your portion.

It seems like most everyone on this board has violated the laws of this country and you want help to further break the laws- you want to work without proper documentation, you want to come over with a tourist visa and live the rest of your lives here illegally, and demand citizenship at the same time while flaunting the very laws of the country you're trying to become part of.

I love my job. I love gathering up illegals, running their records and finding that one in seven of them have criminal records, often violent. I love capturing drug dealers, dope heads, wifebeaters, and shipping them back across the border. And to those of you who say, "Oh, I'm not a criminal- I'm just out of status", well, guess what- you are a criminal, too.
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People some times break law unintentionally. That it is not unpardonable. Every case is different and your opinion is general , which is not really helpful .
 
Angry perhaps?

svend said:
Well said Kilo72! Kudos to you for your post. I came here legally, and intend to stay in status at all times. Obeying the law is such a no-brainer, yet it seems to be sooo difficult for so many people. Just more work for you I guess. Please know that I appreciate your work along with the rest of America. You make us all feel safer, rounding up illegals by the bunch & sending them back.
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Wow you are angry! I am a wife of someone who made a mistake when he was 20 years old, now 36. This is haunting us and he did the time for his crime. We now have been together for 7 years, he has worked for his job 10 years and I am an Accountant. We have done well for ourselves. Do you believe in God and forgiveness because sometimes people make stupid mistakes and it was stupid, but he shouldn't be punished for the rest of his life. By the way he has lived here in the US since he was six months old so I don't consider him illegal, seeing that his parents are now citizens and his siblings were all born here! Say lay off and put that agression somewhere positive!
 
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