Change jobs after GC

6 month in good faith is general guideline but
if yoou have to change, I don't think you have to
worry about "future employment" premise.

Especially, these days. You wait 6 years to get GC, for example.
The "future employment" written in your petition is
already a past. It becomes kinda meaningless, IMHO.
 
Couple of my colleagues who worked with me in my previous Company
got their GC's and within 3 months we all got laid off. They found jobs in other companies. Those guys got their citizenship recently.

I asked them if changing jobs within three months of their GC approval
was a problem.. They said they didn't have any problems at all and were
never asked that question. I think changing jobs falls at the last in
line as far as "having good faith" is concerned.

We need more cases to come forward and post their opinion in order
to get a better idea about this.

Labor AD 9/2003
I140 AD 9/2004
I485 EB3 INDIA AD 6/2005 CO 7/15/05 CM 7/18/05 CR 7/20/05
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Lets put this one to rest

Guys and Gals,

I have been reading up on all the exchanges in this thread and feel that there really is no concrete evidence to prove or disprove any opinion regarding this job change issue. If you really want to switch jobs right after you get your GC, then the best thing would be to talk to your attorney, talk to other people who have done the same thing, do your own research and then make a decision that is best for you. Evaluate the risk that may be involved and if you are willing to take it then make the move.

This thread just proves that we can argue about this for years without any significant result.

regards,

saras
 
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Just relax saras76

Relax.... Whoever posting messages/questions in this forum is NOT
going to take the word "as is" and follow the ideas!

The idea of posting in this forum is to get an opinion and use it wisely :D
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I am totally relaxed

howdy_howdy,

I am not sure what gave you the impression that I am worked up over this issue. Just trying to state things the way I like to state them.

regards,

saras76
 
6 month for "future employment" premise should definetely be
considered when you change your job but if you get "once in
a life-time" offer or similarly important oppotunity in your career
path, I think the risk is very small and I would go ahead and
change my job even if it's 1 hour after GC.....
 
I totally agree with saras76 , we can argue this one for ever .
There is no clear cut regulation and not any actual case histories where people got into trouble because of switching jobs after getting GC .

Bottom line is if you can wait 6 monts it is prudent but if you have to leave the company it should not be a big deel . All you have to show is the intent that you wanted to stay .
 
pralay said:
Did you have a look at N-400 form?
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Yes I have looked in it.

Even Rajiv never mentioned that, it is a must to work with the sponsorer.

Hi Pralay....people beleive real cases (ie. solid proof). We don't want speculations.

There is a big gang in immigration web sites....to get quick replies/more replies they post scary informations.

Hope "pralay" is not one of the members of this gang.

Come with solid evidence friend. :D
 
fdfd said:
6 month for "future employment" premise should definetely be
considered when you change your job but if you get "once in
a life-time" offer or similarly important oppotunity in your career
path, I think the risk is very small and I would go ahead and
change my job even if it's 1 hour after GC.....
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I agree somewhat. Always consider the various factors and then take decision based on your circumstance. Point to note that even 6 thumb rule may not apply in many cases. For example, if someone applied for I-485 and waited for GC for three years while working for GC sponsoring company, that three years period is probably a good evidence that he had intent at some point of time. But if someone never worked GC sponsoring company and then join that company after GC approval, in this case working there for 6 months may not be good enough to prove intent. So as I said, each circumstance for job change is different. There no generic rule or law that can be applied to determine the intent. But in general in immigration legal community they use the word "rapid course of actions" that provides signs of intent or lack of intent. For example, if I buy a book "Home Building for Dummies" today, wood logs from Home Depot tomorrow, tools from hawdware store day after tomorrow - these rapid course of actions give an idea that I intend to build/rennovate/remodel my house soon. Now, the reality could be otherwise and I can explain convincingly why I am buying book, wood and tools some other reasons. Similar way, getting GC today and changing job "after 1 hour" - these two rapid course of actions can raise doubt about your intent. But that's it. First of all, whether USCIS is ever going to track you and accuse you, the chances are very low. Secondly, probably you have perfectly strong case to prove that you did have intent in past and those rapid course of actions means nothing.
Bottomline, know all the facts and take your decisions based on your own personal circumstance. If someone claims there is a law - that is incorrect. If someone give you false assurance that nothing will happen - that is also incorrect.
 
Fort_User said:
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Hi Pralay....people beleive real cases (ie. solid proof). We don't want speculations.

There is a big gang in immigration web sites....to get quick replies/more replies they post scary informations.

Hope "pralay" is not one of the members of this gang.

Come with solid evidence friend. :D
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I am not memeber of any gang. But I do believe that knowledge if not scary. I say you "don't touch fire, it will burn you", is it "scary" or knowledge? Does this comment indicates that fire is coming after you? I failed to understand why some forum postings from some unknown people will be scary for you. It's true that everybody has his/her style to express opinion and sometimes they sound very aggresive or opinionated. But I would not call it "scary". Get opinions, educate yourself and take your own decisions wisely. That's it! If it is so scary, stay away from forums, pay $$$ to your attorney. That will be more assurring!

I am not here to show you evidence, because that's just a red herring from you to deflect the discussion. I am just expressing my opinions - you like it or not.

Lastly, if you read carefully Rajiv's posting he clearly mentioned it's just his opinion. So "must...." whatever you are quoting that is part of his opinion.
 
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pralay said:
That's it! If it is so scary, stay away from forums, pay $$$ to your attorney. That will be more assurring!
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Please remove the notion of "educating others". Unless any one ask for knowledge dont give your volunteer "knowledge".

Don't publish your self analysis.

The law and Rules are designed and implemented by INS. So, we need real experiences of them.

Show the link...show the evidence....that's all i ask.

I can give you examples like Ice will be cold fire will be hot blah..blah..

But, we run this forum the following way...

My RD is xx-xx-xxxx
My approval date is xx-xx-xxxx

ie. realistic/authentic data. We don't want speculation/analysis of individuals :o

If i were in your place...my answer would be...

"I don't have any solid proof of any one got into trouble because of employment change before 6 months. However, Rajiv says it is better to be with sponsorer for 6 months. Let us ask him why? Or let us follow him blindly as he knows law better than us.".

I won't speculate and i won't publish my friend driving car 120 mph...Fire is red and hot...etc
 
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Fort_User said:
Please remove the notion of "educating others". Unless any one ask for knowledge dont give your volunteer "knowledge".

Don't publish your self analysis.
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It's apparent that you have wrong idea and concept about forum. I am not trying to educate you or anyone else, but giving my own opinion and reffering other people's opinion. It's you who is trying to educate other people by giving an example of your friend - with a false notion that just one example proves the rule. Basically you don't have any point to put in front of others. You just want give your hypothetical friend's example and conclude the discussion.

Who are you to tell me that I cannot publish my self-analysis?


Fort_User said:
The law and Rules are designed and implemented by INS. So, we need real experiences of them.
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You are wrong. Law is designed by lawmakers (congress) and implemented by USCIS (and "INS" is a forgotten name). First learn basics, then try to "educate" others.


Fort_User said:
But, we run this forum the following way...

My RD is xx-xx-xxxx
My approval date is xx-xx-xxxx
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You don't run the forum, buddy. You are just a participant (and a bad one). So don't try to make rule and impose on others.

Fort_User said:
I won't speculate and i won't publish my friend driving car 120 mph...
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I would not, but could not stop from ridiculing your friend's example. Next time, if you want to walk your talk, before preaching other people to follow your rules - ask your friend to publish his following imformation, as you said:
My RD is xx-xx-xxxx
My approval date is xx-xx-xxxx
:D
 
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there are two groups

one who likes to worry

others who can take it easy.

I dont have statistical evidence but many people i have known have changed jobs within days before gc and still got their citizenship card. I would rather than worry sip a glass of zinfadel and take it easy. Getting gc was a big journey and why worry about anything else????????? ;) :eek: :D :D :cool: :rolleyes:
 
tombaan said:
Getting gc was a big journey and why worry about anything else?????????
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While it's true that there is no reason to worry about this issue, but GC is a big journey may not be right always. If you go to H1 forum, you will see the notion that getting a H1 visa and coming to USA is a big journey. Go to citizenship forum, you will get notion that getting citizenship and being "an American" is a big journey. If you look back after say 10 years, you will see that getting GC is just another milestone in your life. The challenge right in front of us always looks most challenging and the most difficult thing of life - but it's not.
 
I too would like to have a chill beer and forget GC rather than clashing with pralay.

After 10 years when we apply for Citizenship, China currency may be
$ 100 = 1 yuang.

All we might be in Shangai.
 
Fort_User said:
After 10 years when we apply for Citizenship, China currency may be
$ 100 = 1 yuang.

All we might be in Shangai.
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Its' true :). And sipping Tsingtao beer or Maotai (instead of zinfandel).

In fact when I came to USA in 1997 there was popular joke in Indian internet coummity flying around where it described two American computer engineers are applying for H1 visa in Indian consulate and discussing about salary (in Rupees), employer, Indian green card etc. I haven't realized that joke can get so close to reality within this 8 years :)
 
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