canadian green card

[lalalala]

hi everyone
i wanted to know how easy is it for physicians to get green card in canada. we are both working in US , mine j1 waiver , her j2.what is procedure
her brother is immigrating to canada soon, could that help( i believe there are some criteria he has to fulfill before he can sponser
please shed some light
thanks

 

[J1victim]

canadian GC

... wanted to know how easy is it for physicians to get green card in canada. we are both working in US , mine j1 waiver , her j2.what is procedure
her brother is immigrating to canada soon, could that help( i believe there are some criteria he has to fulfill before he can sponser
please shed some light
thanks

They need doctors in canada (in their own underserved areas). This is one of the reasons that canada has started giving out NOCs to canadian green card holders for J1 residency in the US. earlier they would refuse or you had to clear their MCCQE exams to be given the NOC letter.

you may get canadian GC without any help. your BIL (brother in law) doesn't need to sponsor you. Once you get your canadian GC, you may help him accumulate enough points on his immigation application. (The canadian GC application process gives you extra points for having a canadian GC relative. and you need to get *enough points* on their rating scale to be eligible for canadian GC).
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[lalalala]

ji victim thanks and clarification

1.so what u are saying is that even if i came on J1 waiver to US from india i can still get canadian green card and work there without clearing the tests
2. besides the cold how do those area compare with doing ji waiver in US and can one practice anywhere after getting green card in canada
3. also my brother in law is already approved for green card and is coming to canada with green card
thanks

 

[hadron]

> US from india i can still get canadian green card
> and work there without clearing the tests

Getting a canadian PR and working as a physician in the maple plantation are two different things:

The PR is indeed very well achievable if you 1. speak english fluently 2. have a graduate level degree 3. a couple of years of job experience (residency counts !). This will get you enough 'points' to obtain canadian PR within 1-2 years and after spending $1400 per person in filing fees.

The canadian medical system on the other hand is very parochial and biased against FMG's. Only in areas that are seriously underserved they are willing to cut you some slack and accept the in their eyes inferior USMLE's and american board certification as proof of your qualifications. Anywhere else, they make you go through their entire LCME series and require you to take the RCPSC exams before you can practice (this might require a year of 'remedial training' at a canadian residency program before you become eligible. And then they turn around and don't allow you to do that training bc you are a FMG.)

If you are willing to go to a rural (typically northern) area of BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan, you can practice on a temporary basis with USMLE's and US residency training. There, they give you 3-5 years to pass the LCME and RCPSC exams. Anywhere else it is very very tough (forget about Toronto, the city is full of chinese PhD's working construction site security and indian MD's driving cabs).

> 2. besides the cold how do those area compare with
> doing ji waiver in US and can one practice anywhere
> after getting green card in canada

Going to canada after a J1 doesn't get you out of your J1/J2 HRR (some people say that once you are a canadian citizen you might get out of it, but I am not sure).

The canadian physicans I have met so far all said that the practice as a physician is a lot more fun there because you have to worry less about getting sued and you can make decisions more on a medical basis than the conglomerate of medicolegal/economic factors we deal with here. On the other hand, the physicians incomes are somewhat lower and the single payor system makes you very dependent on the whims of your provinces politicians. Docs up there make a decent living, but getting rich is not really in the plan for anyone.


> 3. also my brother in law is already approved for
> green card and is coming to canada with green card

You do get extra 'points' for canadian relatives, but thats about it.

 

[aquagemini]

I am in 100% agreement with hadron, Canadian medical system works in exactly the same way as he describes it. Opportunities are limited and the ones open for FMGs are basically worthless. Since the system is fee for service in most case scenarios you do not have a guranteed income.

Overheads are high, you pay your own medical insurance (CMPA); yearly licensure fees are exorbitant (in excess of CAD $ 1000.00 in most of provinces) and the taxes eat up your savings.

Highway systems are poorly maintained and weather affects every aspect of your life. In winter time the entire city is like a giant skating rink! I have known FMG physicians in northern communities getting snow bound for months togather. Canadian physicians may boast on making clinical decisions but the fact of the matter is that any investigation is extremely difficult to arrange. How would you like to treat a acute stroke without CT scan or acute cord compression without MRI?

More over, the provinces like Manitoba and Saskachewan give limited licensure to FMGs even without US training(yes it is true) and one ends up with a collegue who has absolutely no North American training (ie, you work at different levels for the same payment).

Compare this to waiver job where the income is guranteed, overheads are minimum and one is well connected through excellant highway systems to major cities. Moreover your training and board certifications are valued and you do not work with constant worry about future. Coming to Canada as a physician is just like prolongation of your J visa agony.

However I have found Canada to be an excellant country to settle down if you do not want to work hard and /or have any chronic illness. Remember, for claiming benefits (medical and social services) all you need is be a permanent resident or citizen here.