Bush Wins: No Green card for 2002 filers for next 4 years
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PremChopra
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Yes, if he starts a program to legalize all the illegal immigrants as he did last time in 2001 which created all these backlogs, it's going to screw up all of us who are paying Medicare and Social Security tax for years for nothing.
Red_Card said:
that is my concern as well. the current administration certainly does not value the skilled professionals. they are doing everything to make it hard for skilled and well educated professionals to stay in the country, and at the same time make it easier for illegals to get in.
immigrationcom
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You bet!!! It is a upset day. ICzyu said:
I think the news is not so bad for long time GC waiters (i.e. 2001, 2002, early 2003). My reason is:
1) Bush winning quickly means continuity. Less uncertainty, at least VSC can be expected to keep up recent approval trends...
2) Any new program Bush can put in place for illegals etc will take at least a few months, by which time most of us still waiting should be approved.
I think the bad news, if at all, is really for those are starting GC process now. Bush being re-elected may mean that employment-based GC pipeline will be further squeezed, esp since EB based folks tend to be Democrats when they become citizens.
1) Bush winning quickly means continuity. Less uncertainty, at least VSC can be expected to keep up recent approval trends...
2) Any new program Bush can put in place for illegals etc will take at least a few months, by which time most of us still waiting should be approved.
I think the bad news, if at all, is really for those are starting GC process now. Bush being re-elected may mean that employment-based GC pipeline will be further squeezed, esp since EB based folks tend to be Democrats when they become citizens.
I will tell U exactly why.
Until Dec 2002 they were processing very logically, one month at a time. It was clear cut. You could guess that your case will be approved in a range of Max 3 months. Now It's gone crazy. The trend was steady.
After Bush tookover the immig dept, he just screwed things, just the way he screwed everything else. Now the only thing that certain is uncertainity. Be prepared for a long wait.
Until Dec 2002 they were processing very logically, one month at a time. It was clear cut. You could guess that your case will be approved in a range of Max 3 months. Now It's gone crazy. The trend was steady.
After Bush tookover the immig dept, he just screwed things, just the way he screwed everything else. Now the only thing that certain is uncertainity. Be prepared for a long wait.
Its evident... 80% of progressive states are in NE and west coast including Michigan and they generate 80% of country's GDP.Today's results shows this.
They have large immigrant populations and will tend to vote for Democrats.
Fat heads in mid-west and southern states get very well influenced by Bush's highly stirred emotional and political speeches.
They have large immigrant populations and will tend to vote for Democrats.
Fat heads in mid-west and southern states get very well influenced by Bush's highly stirred emotional and political speeches.
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Explorer19
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keeping aside the presidential election, there will be pleanty of problems with immigration once the dates retrogress in january 2005 for EB3
nyte_crawler
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Like so many of you have pointed before, Bush or Kerry does'nt really impact the immigration process. This is because they care about only votes. But if i were planning to live here for sometime after the greencard and raise my next generation, then i should be worried. The country is not governed from the centre it is been pushed to the extreme. Now that Bush conservative agenda with senate and house in control will be easy. Bush could be a good president if he does not listen to ashcraft and the rumsfields. Well thats just my opinion.
Yes, it's not the happiest moment. I guess the nation is still divided and we have not reached to any conclusions. Bush had promised to reduce the backlog to 6 months, however it's making things worst. Republicans have always been anti-immigrants, however this year inorder to get the votes they supported out-sourcing. Just look at the map of US itself.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/
Everything from the south east to midwest looks RED. Republicans have full control of House and Congress. Now even Tom Daschele is kicked out. In next 4 years this country would be totally different.
Just imagine, Kerry won only in immigrant states, CA, OR, DC, PA, NY, NJ... etc!!!!
As long as the conservative attitude and Bible Belt Southern attitude is around, we immigrants will always be treated as 2nd Class citizens. I face this all the time in South Carolina. Infact i could feel that from the officer who interviewed me. I haven't felt this way living 5 years in California where immigrants are welcome and white's are minority.
Please read below.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._latimes/thenationalfissureremainsdeepandwide
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/
Everything from the south east to midwest looks RED. Republicans have full control of House and Congress. Now even Tom Daschele is kicked out. In next 4 years this country would be totally different.
Just imagine, Kerry won only in immigrant states, CA, OR, DC, PA, NY, NJ... etc!!!!
As long as the conservative attitude and Bible Belt Southern attitude is around, we immigrants will always be treated as 2nd Class citizens. I face this all the time in South Carolina. Infact i could feel that from the officer who interviewed me. I haven't felt this way living 5 years in California where immigrants are welcome and white's are minority.
Please read below.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._latimes/thenationalfissureremainsdeepandwide
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fast_gc_seeker
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also we can expect another 2-3 wars in next 4 yrs 
TheRealCanadian
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joyd said:
That's because 245i sunset in April 2001, but was enacted back in 2000 under Bill Clinton and a Republican Congress.
PremChopra
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Bush converted this bill into Law on 21st December, 2000 and this is the text of one of his letters from http://www.gofindlaw.com/bushltr245i.html
Section 245(i) Update
[5/20/01] President Bush's Letter in support of the extension of 245(i)
Text of letter from President Bush to Congressional leaders
THE WHITE HOUSE
May 1, 2001
Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. Leader
I am a strong proponent of government policies that recognize the importance of families and that help to strengthen them. To the extent possible, I believe that our immigration policies should reflect that philosophy. That is why I support legislation to extend the window created under section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act during which qualified immigrants may obtain legal residence in the United States without being forced to first leave the country and their families for several years.
According to agency estimates, there are more than 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the country who are eligible to become legal permanent residents, primarily because of their family relationship with a citizen or legal permanent resident. However, the law generally requires them to go back to their home country to obtain a visa, and once they do so, they are barred from returning to the United States for up to 10 years. Many choose to risk remaining here illegally rather than to be separated from their families for those many years. This issue has been the subject of discussion in the Working Group that Attorney General Ashcroft and Secretary of State Powell co-chair with officials of the Mexican government, and should be addressed to ensure a more orderly, legal, and humane migration flow between our countries.
I encourage the Congress to consider whether there was adequate time for persons eligible under section 245(i) to apply for adjustment of status before the filing deadline expired yesterday. Information indicates an estimated 200,000 were eligible to file but did not meet the deadline. Preliminary reports suggest that many applicants were unable to complete their paperwork in time, due in part to the fact that the rules explaining how the provision would be applied were not issued until late March. It remains in our national interest to legitimize those resident immigrants, eligible for legal status, and to welcome them as full participants of our society. But we will only be able to do this if the path to legalization encourages family reunification. For this reason, I would support legislation that temporarily extends the recently expired April 30, 2001, filing deadline, while maintaining the requirement that the applicant was physically present in the United States on December 21, 2000.
I look forward to working with you on this important legislation.
Sincerely,
GEORGE W. BUSH
Section 245(i) Update
[5/20/01] President Bush's Letter in support of the extension of 245(i)
Text of letter from President Bush to Congressional leaders
THE WHITE HOUSE
May 1, 2001
Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. Leader
I am a strong proponent of government policies that recognize the importance of families and that help to strengthen them. To the extent possible, I believe that our immigration policies should reflect that philosophy. That is why I support legislation to extend the window created under section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act during which qualified immigrants may obtain legal residence in the United States without being forced to first leave the country and their families for several years.
According to agency estimates, there are more than 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the country who are eligible to become legal permanent residents, primarily because of their family relationship with a citizen or legal permanent resident. However, the law generally requires them to go back to their home country to obtain a visa, and once they do so, they are barred from returning to the United States for up to 10 years. Many choose to risk remaining here illegally rather than to be separated from their families for those many years. This issue has been the subject of discussion in the Working Group that Attorney General Ashcroft and Secretary of State Powell co-chair with officials of the Mexican government, and should be addressed to ensure a more orderly, legal, and humane migration flow between our countries.
I encourage the Congress to consider whether there was adequate time for persons eligible under section 245(i) to apply for adjustment of status before the filing deadline expired yesterday. Information indicates an estimated 200,000 were eligible to file but did not meet the deadline. Preliminary reports suggest that many applicants were unable to complete their paperwork in time, due in part to the fact that the rules explaining how the provision would be applied were not issued until late March. It remains in our national interest to legitimize those resident immigrants, eligible for legal status, and to welcome them as full participants of our society. But we will only be able to do this if the path to legalization encourages family reunification. For this reason, I would support legislation that temporarily extends the recently expired April 30, 2001, filing deadline, while maintaining the requirement that the applicant was physically present in the United States on December 21, 2000.
I look forward to working with you on this important legislation.
Sincerely,
GEORGE W. BUSH
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TheRealCanadian
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PremChopra said:
Considering that W was not sworn in as President until a month later, this would be an interesting accomplishment.
Please note that 245i has never been extended since it expired in April 2001. Bush talks a lot about extending legalization, but has never expended an ounce of political capital or effort moving things forward.
PremChopra
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This is from www.hooyou.com
On December 21, 2000, the President signed a bill entitled the LIFE Act into law. A part of the LIFE Act is the amendment of Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. The original Section 245(i) was enacted in 1994 allowing aliens who were out of status, entered the U.S. without inspection, or violated the terms of their non-immigrant status to file an adjustment of status if they were beneficiaries of immigration petitions or labor certification applications filed by January 14, 1998. Without the LIFE Act, an alien who missed the 01/14/98 deadline could not adjust his/her status if he or she was out of status, entered the U.S. without inspection, or violated the terms of non-immigrant status. The new LIFE Act amended extended the deadline to April 30, 2001.
When the text above said President I assumed it to be Bush.
Just to add little spice, you said in one of your posts above that it was enacted in 2000, this site says it was enacted back in 1994.
On December 21, 2000, the President signed a bill entitled the LIFE Act into law. A part of the LIFE Act is the amendment of Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. The original Section 245(i) was enacted in 1994 allowing aliens who were out of status, entered the U.S. without inspection, or violated the terms of their non-immigrant status to file an adjustment of status if they were beneficiaries of immigration petitions or labor certification applications filed by January 14, 1998. Without the LIFE Act, an alien who missed the 01/14/98 deadline could not adjust his/her status if he or she was out of status, entered the U.S. without inspection, or violated the terms of non-immigrant status. The new LIFE Act amended extended the deadline to April 30, 2001.
When the text above said President I assumed it to be Bush.
Just to add little spice, you said in one of your posts above that it was enacted in 2000, this site says it was enacted back in 1994.