Breaking NEWS: Senate revives immigration bill (WSJ)

Senator Leaders Reach Deal
On Reviving Immigration Bill

Associated Press
May 11, 2006 10:52 a.m.

WASHINGTON -- Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day.

The agreement brokered by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R., Tenn.) and Minority Harry Reid (D., Nev.) breaks a political stalemate that has lingered for weeks while immigrants and their supporters held rallies, boycotts and protests to push for action.

Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. to felony charges as well as deportation.

Mr. Frist said the Senate will send 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats to negotiate with the House, with seven of the Republicans coming from the Judiciary Committee and seven of the Democrats chosen by Mr. Reid.

Mr. Frist said a "considerable" number of amendments would be debated when the Senate begins debating the bill early next week
 
Well time to become illegal.

Legal way , we can GC in another 50 years

Illegal way, pay $1000 fine, learn spanish and become citizen
 
If they manage to come up with enough democrat senators to support this and passes in the house and gets signed by the President, I am wondering when this would increase the employment visa numbers and start the processing of "EAD's" for the "guest-workers" ? That is going to be a key question.
 
All Politics

This is all the politics and everyone in senate and house is aware of the situation but nobody wants to get into this mess and clear it up until they see any political advantage out of it.
I contacted senator months back and after a lot of communication he say that he cannot do anything to overcome the retrogression but he supports the legal immigration.
So the bottom line is that they support us but they dont want to do anything for us....You can easily predict what they mean.

Good Luck.
 
kamrans said:
This is all the politics and everyone in senate and house is aware of the situation but nobody wants to get into this mess and clear it up until they see any political advantage out of it.
I contacted senator months back and after a lot of communication he say that he cannot do anything to overcome the retrogression but he supports the legal immigration.
So the bottom line is that they support us but they dont want to do anything for us....You can easily predict what they mean.

Good Luck.
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Most of the politicians would do something irrespective of the region IF they get some benefit from what they do.
 
People,

Please do not see everything from a negative point. Do not trow around the assumptions that they will grant the illegals the citizenship right away and leave us alone. (I know that they want all the illegals to have the citizenship since they all can be a voting block.) Still we have a shot at something positive. Think that we can cook our rice at the times when the political heat is getting high. If we just discuss all the negatives then we will be no where.

Our current focus should be the amendments that are very critical for our benefits. From what i read on MSNBC.com :


"The compromise bill builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-8, with six Republicans voting and all Democrats approving the measure.

That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents. "

As we all know that McCain/Kennedy bill has lots of good things about our arguments. All we have to do is to push for those parts of the bill to be considered fully when they debate for the bill.

I hope that we all take this suggestion to the heart and try to be more positive. All our one-liner negative remarks will drain the moral of already frustrated people in our community. Please be positive when you post something thoguh i know that it is hard.

Jai Hind.

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puerthoughts said:
People,

Please do not see everything from a negative point. Do not trow around the assumptions that they will grant the illegals the citizenship right away and leave us alone. (I know that they want all the illegals to have the citizenship since they all can be a voting block.) Still we have a shot at something positive. Think that we can cook our rice at the times when the political heat is getting high. If we just discuss all the negatives then we will be no where.

Our current focus should be the amendments that are very critical for our benefits. From what i read on MSNBC.com :


"The compromise bill builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-8, with six Republicans voting and all Democrats approving the measure.

That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents. "

As we all know that McCain/Kennedy bill has lots of good things about our arguments. All we have to do is to push for those parts of the bill to be considered fully when they debate for the bill.

I hope that we all take this suggestion to the heart and try to be more positive. All our one-liner negative remarks will drain the moral of already frustrated people in our community. Please be positive when you post something thoguh i know that it is hard.

Jai Hind.

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Proud to be on NRITalk.com
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Very well said!!! I totaly agree......
 
Do not trow around the assumptions that they will grant the illegals the citizenship right away and leave us alone.
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Thats what they did in 86 and the legals got f$#@#d.
Thats what they did in 01 and the legals got f$#@#d.

Why do you delude yourself into thinking that it will be any different this time around ?
 
In my personal opinion keeping a realistic thinking will keep me motivated to seek my AC21 friendly job opportunity. Let me tell you some:this immigration debate and game may be extended for a while. JBe patient, but if other opportunities come accross, just don't hold your breath this or other bills may pass. The assumption is based on a repetitive pattern.

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Politician will be politician always..!!!

Politician will always be politician..either from India OR USA..

This is very sad to know that those Illegal people will be granted GC and we legal will stand with our empty hands as usual. :mad: :mad:

We were thinking that the McCain/Kennedy bill was not passed because it had lot of provisions for Illegal..as soon as they came up with new SKIL bill it will resolve our issue..but looks like it was other way round..as soon as they came up with new SKIL bill (with no provision of Illegal), now all the senators are talking about illegal and ready to approve the bill which will grant USC to all illegal.. :mad: :mad:

I am not against giving USC to illegal but We legal people should also it..We have also been living like slave for many many years..no quality in life..

I know lot of people will say then go back to your country but that's the reason we spent years here..

This is really bad and Politician again showed that they are all same anywhere you go!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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QUOTE=puerthoughts]People,

Please do not see everything from a negative point. Do not trow around the assumptions that they will grant the illegals the citizenship right away and leave us alone. (I know that they want all the illegals to have the citizenship since they all can be a voting block.) Still we have a shot at something positive. Think that we can cook our rice at the times when the political heat is getting high. If we just discuss all the negatives then we will be no where.

Our current focus should be the amendments that are very critical for our benefits. From what i read on MSNBC.com :


"The compromise bill builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-8, with six Republicans voting and all Democrats approving the measure.

That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents. "

As we all know that McCain/Kennedy bill has lots of good things about our arguments. All we have to do is to push for those parts of the bill to be considered fully when they debate for the bill.

I hope that we all take this suggestion to the heart and try to be more positive. All our one-liner negative remarks will drain the moral of already frustrated people in our community. Please be positive when you post something thoguh i know that it is hard.

Jai Hind.

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Proud to be on NRITalk.com[/QUOTE]
 
As I have said in the past, this bill does us legal and law abiding folks no good. If 1986 and 2001 gives me any indication, the winners here will be the illegals. 2001 was especially very insulting to all of us because we had our share of the visa number quotas allocated to those illegals too. All of the past amnesties did nothing to increase visa number allocations in expectation of the increase in applications, they were all very short-sighted moves by politicians who can only see a few months ahead of their lives. They never think about the effects 10 or 20 years from now.
If any amnesty is to be given to the illegals, it must also include same benefits to those of us who have been following the rules and laws.

OK, that said... this is my plan if CIR bill passes... I will go down to Tijuana and change my name to Vicente Fox and sneak back into USA to get the benefits! LOL! Just joking.
 
hadron said:
Thats what they did in 86 and the legals got f$#@#d.
Thats what they did in 01 and the legals got f$#@#d.

Why do you delude yourself into thinking that it will be any different this time around ?
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Hadron,

You make my point by showing the raw emotions only. This is the reason why we never get over the personal rage and we lose all the energy of our community over some filmy dialogs. The reason why politicians pay attentions to these people is two fold. One they have the mass and i agree that we cannot meet that. Second is all the legal latinos support them who are citizens or green card holders. If you go right now and ask some desi guy with 3-4 hotels and tell him to support our cause, you will get the middle finger from him. So all we have is the energy within and we will have to use the energy in the positive direction. If we keep whinning on these forums we are NOT GOING TO GET WHAT WE WANT. Period.

You have to organize, communicate well and have to have a good strategy. This is the time to shine. The time is running out on us. If we do not force the senators to think about us THEY WILL NOT THINK ABOUT US. Shrug down all the negative things and do not think of going back. We are fighters and we need to keep our eye on the price. Cheer up, and think about all the people who are going through this.

Do not waste your time and energy on refuting things. Put in the palces where it can be useful.

I hope that you will think positive from the next time.

Jai Hind.
 
I think very positive. I just don't think that any of the immigration debate going on at this time has a potential to help legal immigrants. History is against that, why get your hopes up if you are bound to be disappointed a couple of months down the line. This immigration bill is about cheap laborers to pluck chickens to improve the profit margin of the Purdue company, not about fairness.
 
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Approach Indian community

Hey guys,
Why don't we approach the local Indian communities at our places and request them to sign a letter or something explaining our plight and fax it to lawmakers. People of Indian origin are supposed to be "influential" here in the US. Look at the campaign contributions they make.

We may have to accept their help by keeping our egos aside. We haven't asked 'em for help yet and just assume that they will show us middle finger. I think We need to make progress here.
 
Purethoughts,

"If you go right now and ask some desi guy with 3-4 hotels and tell him to support our cause, you will get the middle finger from him."

Isn't this an assumption?
 
Does CIR have a new category for illegals for do they shove 'm all in EB3?

I'd say, the people who filed LC's before CIR passes will be better off than the illegals, who'll be behind them in the queue.

There may be some chaos in the beginning, but not as much as in past -due to more use of IT- but all in all it might be more beneficial than not due to increased visa numbers.

People who file their LC's a year or two from now might indeed be in deep du-du; poor devils.
 
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mr. Puerthoughts....you yourself sound like a politician......its easy to talk dude....but when one goes thru shit....it stinks.......so puhlsssss.....keep your postive thoughts to yourself.....not that we are not trying.....but we do not count because of hundred reasons.....and no matter what you do ....you cannot make 100000 into 10 million.

for business we do not count because they have H1B....and for politicians...we are just a speck.... end of story..
 
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